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Death is part of life and unfortunately we can not change it. Yes it is sad, when someone's life is cut down by a terminal disease. especially the younger they are.

What we need is universal catastrophic healthcare and let the market decide what the rest of us pay.

Go to any US Emergency room to request treatment. If they fail to treat you, they have violated federal law and you will have a nice settlement when the civil lawsuit is over, so how can you say there is no ACCESS????

Some people do not have medical insurance since they are:
a. so rich they do not need it. see Bill Gates.
b. between jobs and choose not to get COBRA
c. Illegal aliens, who can still get FREE healthcare
d. College graduates(a very health group compared to the rest of us) who have not found a job yet.

Also if Medicare and Medicaid are already for people who have no health insurance, are those programs failing to do their jobs?????

Agreed, logicalnonsense, this is an "organization" who cannot even deliver the mail correctly.

Government funded schools cost four times what private schools do to educate kids.

And think about any dealings you have with the government at any level and you realize you pay a chunk of money to be treated poorly by the bureaucrats who act as if they are doing you a favor by doing their jobs. Government healthcare is merely a way for the government to put your hands further into your pockets and increase their own power base.

I have private insurance that I pay for monthly. Last year I paid $2400 in premiums. I was able to deduct $240 on my taxes! If the legislators were truly sincere about caring that people received better coverage they would make all medical insurance premiums as well as what people pay out of pocket a deduction. However, their "sincerity" begins and ends with reaching into your wallet.

Yes socialized medicine is great in Cuba but is a Cuban stye economy what is best for America. you just have to realize that a whole lot of poeple are going to loose jobs and businesses are going to disapeer when we go Cuban style. I am not sure how many jobs there are in the health care sector that will have to be taken over by the government. Will if be cheaper for the government to buy the buildings and infrastructure from the private sector or rent them from the private parties? I think that the governement should think about how many people it is planing to take jobs from when no one no longer is paying their salries.

I will be lucky if I don't have to shell out $1000 next year, despite never once requiring medical services.

Hell, I had to shell out $200 out of my pocket before I was 15, so I dunno under what rock you've been living- drugs and treatment are not universally free in Canada.

Could you please justify why I should have to pay for other peoples medical expenses while my actual medical needs are completely ignored?

>>>canadian do NOT go bankrupt from medical bills.

Anyone wanna take this one?

What about to the Doctors? They certainly have a mountain of school bills to pay? Why shouldn't they profit after nearly a decade of training?

Not to mention, Quality of service may be one thing, but Quantity is a huge issue in Canada- there simply are not enough Doctors to go around.

In my lifetime i have paid LESS then $200 out of pocket and that include drugs.

Almost every Canadian household (98.2%) reported health care expenditures in 1998, spending an average of close to $1,200, up from around $900 in 1978. In 1998, households dedicated a larger share of their average after-tax spending (2.9%) to health care than they did 20 years earlier (2.3%). Health insurance premiums claimed the largest share (29.8%) of average health care expenditures, followed by dental care, then prescription medications and pharmaceutical products.

High-priced Canadian health care system provides poor access to care compared to other nations

The evidence is overwhelming; the Canadian health care model is inferior to those used in other OECD countries. The models that work best have user fees; alternative, comprehensive, privately funded care; and private hospitals that compete for patient demand,” Esmail said.

“None of these reforms mean the Americanization of Canadian health care. The choice is between what we have now and finding a better way to deliver universal access to health care. It’s about emulating the successful models in European and Asian countries that do a better job than Canada’s at delivering on the promise of universal access to high quality care in a timely fashion regardless of ability to pay.”




fraser institute is NOT a creditable source for information.



THEY ARE PUSHING FOR TWO-TIER HEALTH CARE.

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http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=620087

U.S. health spending is projected to increase from 16 percent of GDP in 2006 to 20 percent in 2016—from $2 trillion to $4 trillion. Meanwhile, the number of uninsured Americans continues to rise. In this report prepared for The Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance Health System, the authors examine 15 federal policy options that have the potential to lower health spending relative to projected trends. They include policies that would: produce and use better information for health care decision-making, promote health and enhance disease prevention, align financial incentives with quality and efficiency, and correct price signals in health care markets. Combining policies would capture the synergistic benefits of individual changes. If implemented along with universal health insurance, a combination of selected options could save $1.5 trillion in national health expenditures over 10 years, while also improving value in terms of access, quality, and health care outcomes.

So now, work out the math a bit.
If you earn $36,000 a year in Ontario - barely a living wage in Ontario.
You are paying $ 144.00 in federal taxes to healthcare
$1592.00 in provincial taxes to healthcare
$ 500.00 in health care "premiums"
$1200.00 in extra "health care expenditures".

I need glasses- that means I have to pay for a Doctor for a prescription, and a technician to construct my glasses.

Furthermore, I have a few chipped teeth. None of these are included in the taxes I pay towards my health-

I have lived a relatively healthy life. And yet a fair sum of my money for each paycheck goes towards something that, if I were to choose not to pay because for 1/5 of my life thus far it is completely worthless, I would be sent to a place to be raped by criminals.

For you Americans who are sick and tired of Canadians telling you that we pay a similar amount of taxes, watch this 30 second clip for the real picture on taxation in Canada. Refer any Canadian to this clip when they start going on about the Canadian "utopia".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-we_JsG8M

I would imagine that the only people in Canada who pay the same taxes as their American counterparts are homeless bums.

For starters, people in Ontario with a salary of over $20,000.00 have to pay a $300.00 - 900.00 health care Premium (On top of taxes that they already pay).

Almost every Canadian household (98.2%) reported health care expenditures in 1998, spending an average of close to $1,200, up from around $900 in 1978. In 1998, households dedicated a larger share of their average after-tax spending (2.9%) to health care than they did 20 years earlier (2.3%). Health insurance premiums claimed the largest share (29.8%) of average health care expenditures, followed by dental care, then prescription medications and pharmaceutical products.

http://www.statcan.ca/english/studies/82-003/feature/hrab2000012001s3a04.htm

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/publications_show.htm?doc_id=568237


Skipping Care Because of Costs
In the U.S., 37 percent of all adults surveyed—and 42 percent of those with chronic conditions—skipped medications, did not see a doctor when sick, or did not obtain recommended care in the past year because of the cost. These rates are well above those found in the other six countries. Few people in Canada, the Netherlands, and the U.K. reported skipping care because they could not afford it.

A high proportion of U.S. adults also have serious problems paying medical bills—nearly one-fifth (19%), more than double the rate in the next highest country. Nearly one-third (30%) of U.S. survey respondents spent more than $1,000 in the past year in out-of-pocket medical costs. Nineteen percent of Australians and 12 percent of Canadians spent this much; rates were even lower elsewhere.

Affordability concerns may well be the reason that a third (34%) of U.S. respondents said the health care system needs to be rebuilt completely. This was the highest rate of any of the seven countries

If Canadian healthcare is so great, why do Canadians,especially those with terminal diseases come to the US to get treatment, since they can not get timely treatment in Canada???

http://www.cancercare.on.ca/index_waittimesRadiation.asp#Trend

This radiation treatment wait time information helps patients and physicians make decisions about cancer treatment. Patients and physicians should decide together whether it is appropriate for the patient to be referred to a treatment facility outside their area or Local Health Integration Network (LHIN). If it is appropriate, the physician will contact the treatment centre and make the necessary arrangements. If the physician refers the patient to a regional cancer centre outside of the patient’s LHIN, the patient is responsible for all travel and accommodation expenses incurred as a result.

Over the last three years, median provincial radiation wait times have dropped 31%, from 6 weeks in fall 2003 to 4.1 weeks in fall 2006. From fall 2005 to fall 2006, radiation wait times went down from 4.3 weeks to 4.1 weeks, a decrease of 7% in one year.