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| | Does free spirit mean irresponsible?Page 3 of 4 (1, 2, 3, 4) |
people who are conscious, aware and awake ... people who are selfless and giving. I also believe that those people who are "free spirits" have a lot more respect and tolerance for those who see us as being different or who have "issues" with us than vice versa ...
Well, yes, I accept that as your truth, but by stating the above, you imply that those who do not declare their free-spiritedness are somehow flawed. And that may well be.
Those who are truly free spirits are born.
But, experience tells me that those who go out of their way to be free-spirited, profess to be free-spirited, who push their free-spirits on others, are often those who really do not care about the spirits of those they come into contact with.
And, I'm speaking from a p.o.v. of one who has lived most of his life 'outside the box' and has lived places, done things, and experienced life in a way that the vast majority of folks out there have never, nor will ever, experience. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2007 6:31:57 PM | very good ... I value and support your opinion ... it is never my intention to imply that someone is flawed because they choose the way that works best for them ... even if I don't personally "get it" or choose a different path ... it takes all kinds to make this world an interesting place. If you had read one of my earlier posts, I did state that many of those "free - spirits" were empowered with that knowledge as children ... so I agree with that point. And there are posiers and wanna - be types who are, in reality, probably roll - playing in their attempts to find their idea of freedom. But I'll never be one to say that even that is a negative ... some people are truely so compromised by their present moments and circumstances that they could not break away from that closed - minded and limiting lifestyle if their lives depended on it. They know nothing different, probably do live their lives bound by a certain amount of fear and are content to embrace their " freedoms or perception of such" all the while berating or ridiculing those who live their lives differently. I've always believed this statement too be true ... if someone has lived their lives within a given parameter or set of limiting circumstances, then that is what they know and that is where they will find their peace ... but if one EVER breaks free from those constraints, the sky is the limit. Then it becomes a matter of choice.
Being comfortable with my freedom of spirit is not something that I've ever had to try to do ... it's as natural too me as breathing ... I am who I am ... I never go out of my way to show off my personality or try too push that on others ... again, as stated earlier, I support whatever choices that person has made for themselves and what works for them.
On the other hand, and on more than a few occassions, I've had those who live on the other side of the fence try to force "their thing" on me ... or better yet, pass judgement and try to make me feel badly or feel that my way is wrong because I live an "alternative" lifestyle. I mean, look at all the flack the hippies, travelers and gypsys take just because they are different and live by a different set of values ... or, before the price of gasoline hit the high dollar mark, how many people were actively ridiculed because they lived a "green, environmentally conscious" lifestyle. In retrospect, perhaps there might just be something to be said for their choices, don't you think?
Granted, they are a different breed, but is that such a bad thing?
In closing, I truely believe that the ideal is too find balance ... and tolerance ... and too appreciate diversity.
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| Does free spirit mean irresponsible?
Posted: 12/15/2007 6:51:46 PM | I would consider myself to be very much a free spirit.. I am not looking for marriage.
I don't want a full time job that I dread going to daily, like some people do..
And I want to travel when I get the opportunity.. To be happy and enjoy life..
I'm not one that cares to follow the crowd! | |
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| Does free spirit mean irresponsible?
Posted: 12/15/2007 7:11:32 PM | Wow, if anyone ever would have asked me if I was a free spirit, I think I would have answered yes. After reading all these posts, I am glad no one ever asked. I think of free spirit as not being afraid to dance in the middle of the dance floor, alone, just because you like the music. I definately think of it as creative and willing to stand up for your own beliefs, (usually liberal in nature). Very save the world and do it peacefully in nature.
Many of my friends in college were definately free spirits and some of them definately irresponsible. Me,no. Same job 18 years, totally devoted to two kids, definately unwilling to put myself as priority w/out considering the effect on others. It never occurred to me to think that the selfishness and irresponsibility were an attachment to the free spirit moniker.
After reading a few of these posts though, I can definately see why some people would put those things together. I guess, like any other stereotype, you need to look at each case independently. There are those out there who will support or contradict just about any perspective you choose to look at in any given expectation. As always, I would give someone the benefit of the doubt until you see something that points you in a negative direction. Thing is, who knows. We all see ourselves in a positive light (I hope) and lets face it, we are not all as great as we think we are. :). So, don't take my word for it, but get to knkow me (or him/her) for yourself and take it from there. Maybe though, with these posts under your belt, you will be better able to pick up on the clues and walk away less hurt or disappointed next time. Good luck. | |
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Posted: 12/15/2007 8:17:57 PM | I would most probably class myself as a free spirit, or at least i was....i met a girl earlier this year, and we clashed every now and again because i would do spontaneous things with no regards for other people, for example 'turning up at her house at 4am in the morning and waking her up just because i decided i wanted to see her, forgetting that she had to be up for work at 6am' she wasn't very pleased with me at all....and i didn't understand what was wrong with that until she made me see why it was wrong, or at least wrong in her eyes...if someone had done that to me i wouldn't of been bothered, i would of been the opposite, id of been happy to see them, i think some free spirits definetly lack responsibility,
i would say that i do, i don't really have any cares in the world, and i don't like rules and normality so much, if i wake up at 2am in the morning and decide to go for a walk then i do, i don't really agree on the way the world works i don't like how everything seems to be dominated by money and how people seem to be so self-fish conscious about what other people think about them and there actions, but after hanging out with this girl she kind of showed me that things i do are wrong and not normal, and i kinda thought i was weird and i wanted to become more normal...i did change a little bit during knowing her, but my wild side would still come out every so often, i sometimes still turned up at her house just to see her at silly times and i guess i could see the difference between people who conform and see things the normal way and people like me who kind of just don't care about rules and regulations and we do as we please because we should be free to do has we like....i really like free-spirited people, because they don't care and they don't care about how other people see them, but that only goes so far, the girl i met didn't care about me and i really really cared about her, but that doesn't make her a free spirit, at the beginning i thought she was like me, we got on really well and she'd do crazy things and act stupid and she wasn't bothered,
but then she changed and i could see that she was more normal and ordinary, and my behavior and actions started to bother her, really sucks because i loved her to bits, i thought i'd found someone just like me, but it turned out i didn't, and now im heart broken, i may be a free-spirit and i may not really care about anything, but when it comes to people i care alot, people are the only thing that really seem important to me, rather than money, or having nice things or being good looking etc, i think peoples values are just so different to mine, so many people just seem to be so hooked on money and following life the normal way,,,finding love,getting married, having kids...etc that seems like the normal path that everyone takes...and the people who don't really think that path is for them is looked on as weird which i don't understand....im not sure what im really trying to get at here, i just wish more people could just stop thinking about the so called important things in life and just let go, if i date a girl and i decide i wanna see her at a silly time, it'd be nice to actually have her being happy that ive come to see her and she'd just come out and go for a walk with me even if she does have work in a few hours ya know, yeah so you'll be tired for the rest of the day, but so what, you can sleep another time, come out and have fun,come for a walk with me, sing out loud with me and laugh, no one is around to see you being silly, yeah maybe that isn't the right behavior of a 24yr old, but so what...ages means nothing...the world is a playground, take advantage of it | |
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Posted: 12/15/2007 8:55:24 PM | Ok I have in my profile written " I am a bit of a free spirit trying to get some stability" NO that does NOT mean I am irresponsible! Yes I have gone threw MANY jobs but I move or more so MOVED alot! I am very responsible and a very savory/respectful person. I am always early for things I never say I will do something and just don't! I don't think you can lump people into black and white catagories that easy, Not everyone is the same. We all use different terms to describe ourselfs as best we can but it should be open to interpretation. I don't follow the rules society lays out there for me and tend to just go where my heart takes me. Just because one person who is a so called free spirit screws around or treated someone bad doesnt mean every person who feels they are that way is the same!
Way to much judgment here! | |
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jimi77
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Msg: 59 | |
| Does free spirit mean irresponsible?
Posted: 12/15/2007 11:46:40 PM |
tend to just go where my heart takes me.
that tends to be the danger of getting in to a realtionship with a free spirit.. if you fall for them and lay your heart out on the line you might get it busted because they tend to go where their heart takes them. In other word they tend to get bored easy and move on to the next big thrill .. | |
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Posted: 12/16/2007 3:28:54 AM | hey jimi! cant imagine anybody ever getting bored with a heart like yours! i still think you rock...even after all this time on here :)
as for free spirits..i have always been called on...but it didnt mean i neglected my responsibilities, nor that i loved my family and freinds less, nor that i didnt cherish committment when in a relationship.....it simply meant that i had no problem expressing myself, and that i wasnt swayed by public opinion...it meant a certain amount of freedom to be myself and to be non judgemental in how i viewed others around me...i am still that way..and its still a good way to be for me.... | |
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| Does free spirit mean irresponsible?
Posted: 12/16/2007 10:35:11 AM | I believe all of us can be free spirited in a good way, that you can act silly, goofy or flirty and not at the expense of other feelings. If you remember that having a free spirit is enjoying the moment, allowing yourself to act with someone you care about by whispering in his ear, throwing kisses and grining, this is meant for the man you're with and others to say "I wish I had that." 
If anyone is with a free spirited man/woman, who does what they want, when they want, its going to lead to disagreements, arguements and bad feelings with drama. Cut the person out of your life, and find that fun loving free spirited man or woman, that will include you in their feelings.  | |
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jimi77
| | Joined: 7/13/2004
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Posted: 12/16/2007 8:51:32 PM | | ya well love is a gamble! I have to say though not all free spirits get bored... maybe with some things but we are all human and capable of loving! You have to risk getting hurt with any person not just a free spirit! Hearts get broken but the biggest risks are usually the ones worth taking! | |
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| Does free spirit mean irresponsible?
Posted: 12/16/2007 9:11:20 PM | | Yes, "free spirit" can be used like lipstick on a pig, to cover up existing personality deficiencies. I would even argue that most people use the term that way. However, for a few artistic souls, the term is accurately used. They are the ones who dare to "think different". They are often idealists unbound by convention. It follows then that free spirits can be politically conservative, especially in a world that requires political correctness at all costs. | |
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| Does free spirit mean irresponsible?
Posted: 12/17/2007 1:53:39 AM | | I would say a free spirit is a person who is kind of spiritual and often hates conventions when it comes to relationships, calling, planning, and everything is in flux, they are not very commitment centered. They are non-conformists in a way that rejects labels, so you may not know what is actually going on with the person, and the person may resent you for being so demanding, perhaps. There is a difference between simply being spiritual and acting like a free spirit that rejects so many traditional ideas............ When someone is saying free spirit, what are they trying to free themselves from, I would wonder... | |
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Chensa
| | Joined: 10/28/2007
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| Does free spirit mean irresponsible?
Posted: 12/17/2007 10:04:05 AM | Wow! I think I should be mad at my friends for calling me a free-Spirit. Apparently this is a bad thing of some report. According to most of the response from this post apparently my friends were calling me irresponsible, undependable and hmmm let's see also a slut! I think I will be writing a lot of angry letters tonight. They have called me a dirty name... :)
I am really none of the bad things described in the previous posts, but I am what I would consider a free thinker. I am not one to believe that because the social norm is insert social norm here is necessarily what I should do just because everyone else is. If I get the inkling that I want to go somewhere, I usually pass the idea along to the people I care about and we work from there. I am not running from anything... except the dogs but I think we are playing... Free spirit, as evidenced here, means a lot of things to a lot of people. Should it keep you from getting to know someone? I don't think so. I think you should see what they consider a Free Spirit before doing so. You may not have the same idea on what that means and you may miss out on meeting a really great person based on a misconception. :)
Okay... I am off to write those angry letters! | |
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Posted: 12/17/2007 11:04:22 AM | | I call my self a free spirit and I'm a public high school teacher in LA. Not a CEO salary, but I pay all my bills. I would say I'm a divergent thinker. I'm liberal, I don't like Bush. I write novels and I read them by the bushelbasket. I like to sit in coffeehouses and discuss philosophy. I go to Druid meetings, and angel spirit guide meetings and other things mainstream people consider just plain weird. My favorite passtime is not cleaning the house. Although it's nice and neat, it's too dusty. I'd say a free spirit is NOT the Stepford Wife type. I'm what has been historically called 'bas bleu". A bluestocking. An intellectual or literary woman. Traditionally unmarriagable until the 1950s, but society has changed so much. My ex boyfreind admires me greatly. (Nice guy, just not in love.) | |
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Posted: 12/17/2007 1:57:49 PM | Some people will think that free spirit and irresponsible are the same because that is how the people who conform to a set of standards, thinks!
A free spirit is an English idiom that refers to a human being who feels unconstrained by convention; rather, the spirit of liberty is paramount to that person.
So then let's ask what liberty is: Liberty is generally considered a concept of political philosophy and identifies the condition in which an individual has the ability to act according to his or her own will.
So now we should get you posters to re-evaluate your posts if we can all agree that this is the meaning of free spirit, rather than our own special thoughts on it. | |
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| Does free spirit mean irresponsible?
Posted: 12/17/2007 3:20:40 PM |
Free spirits can't be in a relationship.
wrong! free spirits can be in a relationship, they can also be responsible. it really depends on what the individual thinks 'free spirit' means. i call myself a 'free spirit' yet have a job and responsibilities. i'm also in a relationship. free spirits need to be with people of like minds. it's fair to say that someone who's morals, values and goals who are cemented in stone aren't going to get along with free thinkers. there's nothing wrong with either type person it's just they don't usually see eye to eye and that's where problems in relationships come in. my relationship is with another free spirit. we don't need to be attached to each other's side 24/7 yet the trust is there that we're true to each other. we both have goals, yet we're open minded enough to pick up at a moment's notice to do something spontaneous. being a free spirit isn't a negative thing unless the person's choices make it such. | |
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Posted: 12/17/2007 3:53:11 PM | | Some of you don't know what you're talking about! Some free spirits are irresponsible and some aren't. By calling myself a free spirit I mean that I'm not going to let anyone dictate how I should live my life. It doesn't mean, however, that I'm going to neglect my responsibilities. There's such a thing as striking a balance between independence and dependence - it's called interdependence. Why are some of the comments so black and white? It's such a narrow-minded viewpoint that doesn't go beyond an average level of intellect. | |
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Posted: 12/17/2007 7:18:35 PM | | This doesn't necessarily mean a free spirit in the way people were posting about. You seem to be into a more open spirituality, but you don't seem to have this strong rejectionist view of things traditional, and that's what we're talking about. I think being free spirited in some ways is good in terms of being open-minded spiritually, but without being against everything traditional. Are you commitment minded? Do you know what you want? | |
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| Does free spirit mean irresponsible?
Posted: 12/17/2007 8:05:34 PM |
A couple times I have responded to ads by women that promote themselves as "free spirits",what does that mean?
One was in her 40s working 3 different part time,minimum wage jobs because she could always quit one and find another,bragged about how no boss would ever control her ,but was barely getting by.
The other one was always late,or would just take off and go somewhere on the spur of the moment without telling me,and couldn't imagine why that would irk me,even though that was the reason her previous boyfriends broke up with her..
If women promote themselves as free spirits then what are the positives that make them want to use this phrase?
To me..."free-spirited" is a description like "smart","good-looking" or "funny"...
It's something that somebody ELSE needs to describe you as to have any validity...
My favorite is a woman that describe herself as "free-spirited"..yet after reading her profile has explicit age,racial and financial requirements for their potential "mate"...
I guess the "spirit" only has limited freedom.... | |
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