| The Spiritual significance of Romance
Posted: 12/21/2007 9:29:59 AM | Wow, mystic... It is so good to hear this sentiment expressed in this way:
Too many times we are taught from a young age to put these so very important things into another's hands for safekeeping...because we believe we don't have the authority or intellect to handle them ourselves. Western culture teaches us this, because the foundation of it is an expression of not being able to handle things for ourselves. This gives way to opening ourselves to agree to be controlled by others, substances, relationships etc.
Hearing it put in yet another way really makes the concept hit home for me, reinforcing my view on it.
We all need to fully walk into our Being, take control-with guidance from our own intrepretation of 'God' and walk in one step. Be the seaker of your own truths. Gravitate towards people who can reflect your inner self back to you... be the mirror. Most times you are reflecting back to them and it's a mutual learning experience.
Yeah, and really... Isn't any interaction really information sharing of one sort or another? Not to technicalize romance, but an interaction where both parties are getting their positive reinforcement without taking it from one another can only reinforce positivity.
I'm sorry... Perhaps I'm having a Celestine Prophecy flashback, but I'm recalling where it's said that some people have to get their positive energy from sapping someone else's supply... Whereas more awakened people know you can get it from anything... So they are able to build up the other party with their own positiveity without draining their personal supply... Look at a rose, see the beauty, replenish your supply.
Spiritual romance to me, is where both parties can feed off of each others infinate supply of positivity without taking away from either supply by recognizing the beauty of the love manifest with their union.
Sorry... My brain is in overdrive this mornin... Maybe this post will make sense to someone, lol! If not, I'll try to spiff it up later on. | |
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Posted: 12/21/2007 9:56:02 AM | TY Stonestonque for listening *grin*
Yeah, and really... Isn't any interaction really information sharing of one sort or another? Not to technicalize romance, but an interaction where both parties are getting their positive reinforcement without taking it from one another can only reinforce positivity. Exactly... and it's different for different people. What we may view or feel as a positive thing may not be the same for others. So we really need to be tuned into our own likes and dislikes to be able to have a descent positive experience with another. I'm sorry... Perhaps I'm having a Celestine Prophecy flashback, but I'm recalling where it's said that some people have to get their positive energy from sapping someone
else's supply... Whereas more awakened people know you can get it from anything... So they are able to build up the other party with their own positiveity without draining their personal supply... Look at a rose, see the beauty, replenish your supply. Yes many people use the term 'energy vampires'. If you have a person that you find repeatedly will leave you feeling like you need a nap, have a headache or they may just drone on and on about subjects..(usually their *personal problems*)... like on the phone with them for hours if you let it go on and on that long and you feel like jumping off a bridge after you hang up the phone?.. yup that's one too! lol Awakened people are at your own level or if they are cruising at a higher energy level they bring you up to meet them. that is so VERY cool. I had that with one of my healing teachers Jaya and every time I was in her presence I felt like I was literally flying:) the feeling would last for a few days.... ...but then one day you notice that they don't being you up and realize that you are maintaining that level on your own now. I guess that's when the student graduates :):) Spiritual romance to me, is where both parties can feed off of each others infinate supply of positivity without taking away from either supply by recognizing the beauty of the love manifest with their union. Yes both add to the relationship. experience, each other and smile this sweet little knowing smile when the other persons name is mentioned or at each other and no one in the world knows for sure what that little 'knowing' smile means:):) Many blessings on this Winter Solstice!!! (okay the quoting is going all weird on this post... and I can't seem to fix it so I'm leaving it as is... arg. Computer energy vampire hahaha:) | |
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Posted: 12/21/2007 12:41:53 PM | Dreams:
I really need to change the way my mind thinks about things.....lol..... In a different context that just has a completely different meaning when coupled with this statement
I am sorry Sassy. I almost offered to help you with that endevor but I see you have it under control...lol I come on here (oops, hope you don't misconstrue THAT one too) to discuss the spiritual signifigance of romance and it gets twisted into something sexual...
How typical
Stone:
Maybe this post will make sense to someone Makes sense to me :) | |
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| The Spiritual significance of Romance
Posted: 12/21/2007 1:10:03 PM | | I have to agree with Dreams .. I always end up with fixer uppers .. possibly they see in me something they are lacking. I'm done with that its about growing together. | |
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| The Spiritual significance of Romance
Posted: 12/21/2007 1:45:24 PM |
Dreams:
I really need to change the way my mind thinks about things.....lol..... In a different context that just has a completely different meaning when coupled with this statement
I am sorry Sassy. I almost offered to help you with that endevor but I see you have it under control...lol
I come on here (oops, hope you don't misconstrue THAT one too) to discuss the spiritual signifigance of romance and it gets twisted into something sexual...
Oh My Gosh what makes you think I was refering to anything sexual...lol.... tisk tisk Isn't that interesting how words arranged in a different way can cause your mind to move in a specific direction even though looking at the words they didn't change and nothing sexual was added at all.
I simply moved your words around...... it was your own mind that did the twisting as a direct result of the way you would think they would mean.
That was my goal to do. To basically prove a point that romance can be achieved even without sexual contact just by choosing to understand the one your sharing it with.
That then allows two people to engage in romance even in the middle of doing something else. The only two people prone to truly understand what is going on are just those two.
Did that make sence?
Basically what I was trying to do is to show you that I didn't twist anything around.
You did it all on your own. All I did was choose to understand you well enough to KNOW that is what you would do when you saw your own words stated differently.
If you had not said it was twisted into a sexual thing there would still be people reading it that never once had the thought of me referring to anything sexual in nature.  | |
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Posted: 12/21/2007 1:46:40 PM | ^^
Basically what I was trying to do is to show you that I didn't twist anything around. You did it all on your own. All I did was choose to understand you well enough to KNOW that is what you would do when you saw your own words stated differently. You took certain parts of my sentences and turned them into something else... I'd say that is twisting them. Regardless... I have a MUCH better undertsanding of you now as well ;)
Nergal: When attracted to the same or similar situations over and over again.. I look within and determine how I am perpetuating it...
That way I learn and grow... transcending any need for such patterns in the future... JMO :) | |
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Posted: 12/21/2007 2:08:43 PM |
You took certain parts of my sentences and turned them into something else... I'd say that is twisting them.
but but but I didn't twist them. I just cut and pasted certain ones and then made a statement below them.
Knowing you enough to understand what thought would enter your mind with a combo of words joined together isn't twisting. It is simply understanding peoples thought patterns well enough to know what would show up as your first thought.
I have a MUCH better undertsanding of you now as well
I should hope so we have been in the same threads for quite a while and I have never made it a secret that I have the skillset to examine people to understand the way they think. It has always been my strongest asset or curse which ever way it is considered at times.  | |
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Posted: 12/21/2007 2:45:57 PM | 1. Well... what does a cow have four of and a woman have two of?
2. What does a man do standing up, a woman do sitting down and a dog do on three legs?
If you didn't answer 1.' legs' and 2. 'shake hands' then you may be suffering from Assumicus Innuendae...
It's easy to get a romantic inclination towards a beautiful woman... are there any beautiful women in here? Please raise your hand if you're a beautiful woman.
Well ok then I'll just have to pick somebody. | |
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Posted: 12/21/2007 5:08:59 PM | wow its all good have some faith in god and accept that everything happens is happenig
nothing is true everything is permisable may allah bless you evn if you are a buddhist like me
stop trying to second gues god have some faith in your divinity
dude, wheres my car
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| The Spiritual significance of Romance
Posted: 12/21/2007 8:50:54 PM | ^^the pact aside, you only have to deal with something if you think you do..
I know, I can be a little annoying, lol....
Statueman:
1. Well... what does a cow have four of and a woman have two of?
2. What does a man do standing up, a woman do sitting down and a dog do on three legs?
If you didn't answer 1.' legs' and 2. 'shake hands' then you may be suffering from Assumicus Innuendae... That was adorable! | |
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Posted: 12/22/2007 9:24:46 AM | It's easy to get a romantic inclination towards a beautiful woman.
Since beauty is skin deep, I'll stick to the search for the spiritual, something a little deeper, hence the slide towards the inappropriation of romance. | |
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Posted: 12/22/2007 2:07:57 PM | Since beauty is skin deep, I'll stick to the search for the spiritual, something a little deeper, hence the slide towards the inappropriation of romance.
Oh for pete's sake... another one of these romantic/spiritual nay-sayers. Honestly some of you are so heavenly minded that you're no earthly good.
sky,
Maannnn you need to get yourself together. Aint nobody that spiritual. It's a myth man a myth! We all go for what looks good on the outside to us! We all do! It just so happens that to some folks ugly folks look pretty... society calls that low self esteem but I call it monster madness. I mean unfortunately a persons looks are a tell-tale of what they is going to act like and feel like on the inside. Take me for instance... I know I look weird... I feel weird... I act weird... I am weird! But somewhere out there is my Sandra Bullock who well... like's weird guys and is going to fall head over hill in love with me. (Not that I would go for Sandra... to prissy...)
OK so stop with the high ideals and bring it down to where the rubber meets the road. If you go on a blind date with a gal you've been talking to for weeks online... her picture is relatively attractive and you're expecting class and sophistication but get trailer park in really nice but well worn clothes then you might find yourself attempting to chew your arm off since you should have known better when she suggested that 1950's style diner on the edge of town. Now you know why yours in the only car in the parking lot... even the employees walk to work.
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Did I just say I wouldn't go for Sandre Bullock? | |
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Posted: 12/22/2007 6:10:57 PM | Statueman:
I mean unfortunately a persons looks are a tell-tale of what they is going to act like and feel like on the inside. Huh?!?
I cannot stress just how much I disagree with that sentiment...
How a person looks tells you precisely nothing about how they will act or how they feel on the inside..
Unless of course you are referring to body laguage.. and even that is iffy... | |
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Posted: 12/22/2007 6:43:18 PM | come on
Sassy...
read the rest of the post I'm obviously not talking about physical God given appearance but rather what looks... the whole package looks... what did you do with what you were given shows no matter how pretty or ugly you were born.
not only that but the reason why there are so many Leos is a combination of winter and christmas cheer... and looks don't matter much during the season of good will... or at least that's what I used to hope for... | |
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Posted: 12/22/2007 8:16:56 PM |
Statueman:
I mean unfortunately a persons looks are a tell-tale of what they is going to act like and feel like on the inside.
Huh?!?
I cannot stress just how much I disagree with that sentiment...
I have to agree with Sassy on this one.....
You can't judge a book by it's cover. Granted for SOME people you can get a idea about MAYBE the lifestyle those choce but even that doesn't always work.
If that were not the case then you could have a room full of people and be able to pick out the smartest one just by looking at them right?
Some may consider me smart (Sometimes at least) but I still have clothes that have holes in them that I wear because they are comfy. So if you saw me out and about wearing a shirt with holes in it using your reasoning I would be a mess inside right?
Basically I don't think either are related at all. My house is a mess alot of time but my mind isn't always while it is.
I guess what I am saying is I have to disagree with those that think your outer apearance in a reflection of your inner self.... It is a crock of shyt.
If that was the case then i wouldn't have such a hard time finding a goodlooking woman who is smart. It seems these days you either have to pick one or the other. Even though I KNOW there are beautiful smart women out there, it is not the normal thing to find.
I mean unfortunately a persons looks are a tell-tale of what they is going to act like and feel like on the inside.
So how then can your thinking be correct?
It just doesn't fit. well sassy is a exception to that...lol
As for the Sandra statement. If she wasn't married to Jesse oh yeah she would be my dream girl...lol she is not as prissy as you think. Just my opinions at least | |
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Posted: 12/22/2007 9:47:59 PM |
How a person looks tells you precisely nothing about how they will act or how they feel on the inside..
That's true... And if you get to know someone who shines on the inside, you'll see that the inner brightness starts to show on the outside... Even if they aren't what "TV Society" deems attractive.
It just doesn't fit. well sassy is a exception to that...lol
K... Not only is that kinda considered flaming, it isn't true... People say beauty is only skin deep, but SassyAquarius is beautiful all around... | |
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Posted: 12/23/2007 3:40:00 AM | Stats... you may as well say age difference is a factor too... I make no secret of the fact that a younger woman usually attracts my attention BUT, if that younger woman does not meet up with my spiritual expectations, she may as well be older. Same age or older would not be a problem if the spiritual connection was there.
Now, before you shoot me over preference of the younger woman, consider why that should be... it doesn't have anything to do with looks, how sexy or meaty she might be... I've worn the T-shirt too many times to fritter away my feelings over what's hot and what's not. I think it's the same reason why we love being around younger people in general (for me at any rate) because, internally, I am not my age at all and have no desire to be what my birth certificate tells me I am.
So you may dream of your hotbody Gf to be, but in my experience that's not going to bring you what you really need.  | |
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Posted: 12/23/2007 5:15:45 AM | Outside looks tell me a lot about the inner as I happen to believe that one's inner state does reflect the outer state, to a degree. Does someone's eyes always look "sad"? Is their hair clean? How about the nails? Granted, there are always extenuating circumstances, but if a person continually looks dishevelled, it says to me that they aren't quite happy within their inner selves. On the flip side, someone who is perfectly manicured each minute of the day, 24/7, also tells me that they're not that happy in their inner life as well.
I think the same concept applies to their living spaces as well.
For me, it is always about the balance.
have no desire to be what my birth certificate tells me I am
ME EITHER 
Unfortunately, the old body disagrees with me at times, s'pecially the day after the first day on the slopes....groan groan groan, pass me the ibuprophen please.
But I sort of agree here. The trick is to find someone who is your age but is young at heart. The best of both worlds, n'est ce pas? Now where is he.........
Cheers! Raven | |
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Posted: 12/23/2007 5:22:11 AM | I gotta go with sky on this one. I've dated some incredibly gorgeous men. Brains, looks, success, charming, generous, considerate. But if we dont see eye to eye on matters of life and spirituality (which is how I see life and the eyes I see the world through) it just doesnt work.
It would be live life in a dark cave where 80% of me is missing. Strangers coexisting somehow. It might have been enough when I was 25. But its not now.
Luckily because I live my life as exactly 'me' those who also fit into that seem to just turn up. And I'm very grateful for that. While those who just DONT fit into that tend to fall away osmotically (or with a big shove from me).
This week I had an old boyfriend turn up for dinner. It was lovely to see him. He brought all my favorite things for me. We enjoyed dinner. Both consciously avoided issues by steering conversation to neutral points. But honestly...would you want to live like that? In an engineered environment? For me. No. No I dont.
When did my priorities change? Not sure. But I know they did. | |
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Posted: 12/23/2007 5:39:11 AM | I don't know... I just don't know... anyway you guys know I'm creole right? Well my 3rd cousin twice removed on my mother side.
Kid Creole ... And The Coconuts
Sang this song
" If You Want To Be Happy "
CHORUS
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
so for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you (repeat)
A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he marries her then she starts
Doing the things that will break his heart
But if you make an ugly woman your wife
Then you will be happy for the rest of your life
An ugly woman cooks meals on time
She'll always give you peace of mind
CHORUS
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you (repeat)
So if your friends say you have no taste
Go ahead and marry anyway
Though her face is ugly her eyes don't match
Take it from me she's a better catch
CHORUS
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you (repeat)
Say kid YES
I saw your wife the other day UH HUH
And she's ugly
HA HA BUT SHE SURE CAN COOK
CHORUS
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you (repeat)
(His wife is a knockout ... but she loves the song.) | |
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help us spiritually enlightened. However, when we do feel we got spiritually enlightened – we must remember that – all situations are NOT the same. “The correlation” between the experience (or a phase in life) that caused us to be spiritually enlightened and spirituality itself - should not fool us into believing that all scenarios will generate the same result.
