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Brings to mind the Matrix... red pill, or blue. You know which one I chose, since I am not longer hooked up to the machinery!!

I do wonder about prayer though..is that..or rather..could that be considered a form of meditation as well as offering conversation? That is..talking to your God..right?

The kernel of Teresa's mystical thought throughout all her writings is the ascent of the soul in four stages (Autobiography, Chs. 10-22):

The first, or "heart's devotion," is that of devout contemplation or concentration, the withdrawal of the soul from without and specially the devout observance of the passion of Christ and penitence.

The second is the "devotion of peace," in which at least the human will is lost in that of God by virtue of a charismatic, supernatural state given of God, while the other faculties, such as memory, reason, and imagination, are not yet secure from worldly distraction. While a partial distraction is due to outer performances such as repetition of prayers and writing down spiritual things, yet the prevailing state is one of quietude.

The "devotion of union" is not only a supernatural but an essentially ecstatic state. Here there is also an absorption of the reason in God, and only the memory and imagination are left to ramble. This state is characterized by a blissful peace, a sweet slumber of at least the higher soul faculties, a conscious rapture in the love of God.

The fourth is the "devotion of ecstasy or rapture," a passive state, in which the consciousness of being in the body disappears (II Cor. xii. 2-3). Sense activity ceases; memory and imagination are also absorbed in God or intoxicated. Body and spirit are in the throes of a sweet, happy pain, alternating between a fearful fiery glow, a complete impotence and unconsciousness, and a spell of strangulation, intermitted sometimes by such an ecstatic flight that the body is literally lifted into space. This after half an hour is followed by a reactionary relaxation of a few hours in a swoon-like weakness, attended by a negation of all the faculties in the union with God. From this the subject awakens in tears; it is the climax of mystical experience, productive of the trance. (Indeed, St. Theresa herself was said to have been observed levitating during mass on more than one occasion.)

Teresa is one of the foremost writers on mental prayer. Her definition was used in the Catechism of the Catholic Church: "Mental prayer [oracion mental] is nothing else than a close sharing between friends; it means taking time frequently to be alone with him who we know loves us."

Have you ever heard of Cursillo?

Also, Anyone heard of Strega?

Who could be part of a passive religion? There is noone in here who doesn't have something they wouldn't fight for... tell me that if someone tried to kill your child that their lives would not be forfiet... if another country invaded that you wouldn't stand next to me to defend this country?...it is a good thing in theory, but we are humans and in practice it only can exist as long as there are people like me who defend them... it is the job of the strong to protect the weak from those who would kill them for being weak...

The great French preacher Lacordaire once said the vocation of a soldier is next in dignity to the priesthood, not only because it commissioned him to defend justice on the field of battle and order on the field of peace, but also because it called him to the spirit and intention of sacrifice.

I guess i shouldn't date catholics since many catholics priest have molested mainly boys

But is she wiccan or wicca?

Just a question--why were the guys allowed to go free? Last I heard, there are sorcerers, evil magic men, warlocks, etc.

I guess i shouldn't date catholics since many catholics priest have molested mainly boys.

Even worse they allow gay catholic priest to continue.

They will even defend the priest that molested the kids.

Didn't Jesus walk on water? wouldn't be that considered witch craft?

I have seen christians being healed on tv, heck they might be a witch according to their own standards.

I used to be christian but eventually I figured out the bible didn't make any sense at all. It was one big joke.

The bible is translated from hebrew text. Translated inaccurately and lies added on to benefit themselves and to make more money with donations.

Isn't this against god? Look at Jim Baker? Catholics don't have any room to judge, their better look at their own first.

Wiccans have higher moral standards than most catholics. I have seen many catholics drink til they get stupid, fight among themselves, mistreat people, and more. They think doing bad things and then confession will allow them to go to heaven.

I have seen many catholics drink til they get stupid, fight among themselves, mistreat people, and more. They think doing bad things and then confession will allow them to go to heaven.

funny how catholics doesn't like pagans either but celebrate Christmas. Christmas was started by the pegans, to make matters even worse jesus wasn't born in dec. people believed he was born in april.

Actually, the only time shepherds spend the night with their sheep is when the sheep are giving birth. The ewes are attracted to the rams in July, after the longest day of the year. The gestation period is about 5 months, so the sheep give birth in mid-December. Thus, the shepherds having been out at the time of Christ's birth is a positive indicator of Christ's birth being in December. Furthermore, it is only fitting that the "lamb of God" is born at the time when all other lambs are born, especially in 1st-century Hebrew culture, which was born out of shepherds.

There are two other reasons why Christmas is dated December 25, although to understand, one must have a full grasp of the entire Christian calendar, not just the days that people like to go to church. The specific date of 25 was chosen because of the belief that a prophet is martyred on the day he was conceived in the world. March 25 is the date of the feast of the Annunciation; that is, the day the angel Gabriel announced to the Blessed Virgin Mary that she would conceive a Savior in her womb. This date was chosen because on the Friday of the Passover in 33 AD, the day Christ died, it was on March 25. Nine months later is December 25, the feast of the Nativity (Christmas).

Another indicator of Christ's birth on December 25 is the date of the feast day of St. John the Baptist, on June 25, after the summer solstice. We know when John the Baptist was born through Scripture because his father, Zecaharias, was a Temple priest who lived according to a strict ritual calendar. See Luke 1:23-24. He went home to his wife "as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished". We know when this is because the Temple priests offered perpetual sacrifice according to their shifts. Zecharias' shift was "the course of Abia" (Luke 1:5), which ends in October. Thus, Zecharias went home to his wife in mid-October and John was conceived at some time between October 15 and the end of the month. This means he would have been born in mid-to-late June.

Not surprisingly, the feast day of John the Baptist is on June 25. And, we know from Scripture that Jesus was born six months after John: December 25. The significance of each being close to the summer or winter solstice derives from what John said about Christ: "He must incease, and I must decrease". After John's day, the days decrease in length. After Christ's, the days lengthen.

Didn't Jesus walk on water? wouldn't be that considered witch craft? Didn't he heal people just by saying so? I have seen christians being healed on tv, heck they might be a witch according to their own standards.