| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 9:36:03 AM | He just was giving an acronym... not a thing to do with lesbians.
Just the same, this fag hag will own that description for herself. It's important to be honest.  | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 9:45:57 AM | Momi, the acronym F.I.N.E. does have to do with lesbians because it directly states that lesbians only choose "F*cked up, Insecure, Neurotic & Emotional" male friends.
I don't think you'd want that kind label put on you as friend of gay men, would you?
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 9:59:45 AM |
ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 9:09:05 AM
Apparently, these folks are referred to as a"Dyke Daddy"
Good one Stevie! Oh and btw: B.tch=Babe in Total Control of Herself.
"Dyke Daddy" is funny but "F*cked up, Insecure, Neurotic & Emotional" is downright stupid and offensive to lesbians and their male friends. Would you say that about the friends of gay men too? Ug. Maybe this will provide a little context for you.Criminey | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 10:34:36 AM | | What context? We just talked about this. | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 11:22:24 AM |
What context? We just talked about this. I was responding to Miss W.'s acronym for B.TCH, and suddenly my post refers to lesbians. That is really rather a stretch.
Momi, the acronym F.I.N.E. does have to do with lesbians because it directly states that lesbians only choose "F*cked up, Insecure, Neurotic & Emotional" male friends. I just borrowed a copy of the official lesbian handbook, and NO WHERE does it state the above referenced quote. People choose their own friends for better or worse. I personally have several that fit that description. There are days that I fit that description and as we have established I am a gay guy. Dude, it was just an acronym. | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 11:23:33 AM |
"F*cked up, Insecure, Neurotic & Emotional" is downright stupid and offensive to lesbians and their male friends
As if "hag" is complimentary or empowering ?
Many social groups and ethnicities have assertively "claimed" epithets and perjorative descriptions as their own (the N and Q words, for instance). Some women are proud to channel their inner b*itch, manifest that power with such panache, that they are magnetic. But most everyone feels protective of their sisters, rightfully so.
Language is usually a *mere* label or handle, and seldom (ever?) fully comprehends or conveys the object it names or describes. Real men, girly girls and the whole raft of gender related names carry some actual concrete meaning, but are unsatisfying and demeaning because they imply persons who don't match up to those descriptions are lacking.
Plus, FINE is pretty darn funny! As are (if you've a mood to see the playful humor) descriptives like lipstick or diesel. Heck Polish jokes were invented in Poland (where they mainly lampooned Russians). Was it Dorothy Parker who said "if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit next to me"? It's so much fun dishing, but getting splashed...not so much. Do we need a safe word, for when tickling turns to torment? | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 12:50:24 PM | pdstevie - Ah, I see you were referring to "B.tch" rather than "Dyke Daddy" in her post. I stand corrected in that regard.
Of course that only shifts to insult to the other gender. What's up with that?
Trying to justify it by saying "it was just an acronym" doesn't cut it either. It would be easy to make up cruel and untrue acronyms about you, a gay man (as you keep telling us), but that would be equally wrong.
A five-year-old could see that labeling a group of people "F*cked up, Insecure, Neurotic & Emotional" is insulting.
Does the phrase "obvious duh" spring to mind here?  | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 1:11:11 PM | It was just a fun acronym, nothing to do with gender or sexual orientation in any way. Not directed in any particular direction. He was responding specifically to MissW's b1tch acronym. You may have heard of it... it was "humor." I hear humor is all the rage.
If you have to be so damn overly sensitive and politically correct, it would behoove you to actually find an accurate target for said rant.
As for me, I love being a hag. I do not think that he thinks of me as a scary looking old crone with a wart on my nose. Well, not most of the time. The word when coupled with "fag" takes on a new meaning. I see it as a term of affection from my gay boyfriend. | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 1:46:04 PM | Oh moni, moni, moni....don't you know me by now? I'm a funny guy with, I'm told, a pretty well-developed sense of humor.
I have no problem with innocent self-deprecating humor - I do it myself - and I didn't say anything about you or the term "fag hag". I even said I thought the term "Dyke Daddy" was funny. I was only objecting to one particular label that I thought mean and unwarranted. It had nothing to do with being "PC", just mutual respect. That's all.
Now what was that famous question that Rodney King asked and no one answered? Hmmm...
Kiss and make-up? Aw, come on. Woo-hoo!  | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 2:11:44 PM | What the **** are you hitting me for?
--Serenity | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 6:25:52 PM | Dave Chapelle came up w/ this category of questioning.
I'd welcome it if there was someone willing to be our Dear Melanie/Mel/Melvin. | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 11:21:37 PM | | What do you wanna know? | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 11:38:20 PM | | I want to know if I will win the mega-millions lottery if I buy a ticket tomorrow morning. | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/20/2007 11:43:44 PM | I consulted with my psychotic powers...
They say yes you will, but it will use up all your luck, and if the bus don't get you, the falling piano's will.
--Serenity | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 12:50:16 AM | | Eye4light F.I.N.E. was not referring to males. It was not referring to females. It was not referring to gays. It was not referring to straights. It was not referring to any group of people except for those who are F*cked up, Insecure, Neurotic & Emotional. I hope this cleared it up. | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 4:00:38 AM | i have a gay friend who obviously likes****and as often gone into the gents to stand alongside men and ogle them whilst they pee. I have to say that i find this absolutely wrong....what two gay men do is their buisness but to stand there and watch un-knowing males pee is wrong. How far would i get into the ladies toilets to watch women pee, because gay men are simply classed as " male" they are automatically allowed to use male facilities. Personally speaking i would much rather go in the ladies room and be surrounded by women peeing than to give another male a free sexual buzz. Like i said i have no problems with gay men doing whatever they want to each other in private but would there ever be the day when we see toilets for gay men and women. I wonder how many women would pee in the ladies room if there was no cubicle sides and doors and the bowl was exposed.....i wonder if women would settle for that. Wherever possible i will pee in the cubicles in the gents. | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 6:21:28 AM | | Bob, bbbbbut what about the mega-millions winnings? Am I going to loose my entire dollar if I buy the ticket? | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 7:56:58 AM | | ^^ Magic 8-ball says" Ask again Later" | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 8:30:25 AM | | Instead of whining, shouldn't Porterbrook just be grateful someone wants to see it? | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 8:37:10 AM |
Instead of whining, shouldn't Porterbrook just be grateful someone wants to see it? ^^LMAO | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 11:37:31 AM | ASK A GAY GUY
I think this should stay in the forums as a regular. Its time has come. From my understanding, ASK A GUY/GIRL began 2006.
First let me say, u've held up well here last 4 pages! lordy, but ignorance has to rear its head B4 everyone settles down into a nice rythm...
I live in San Francisco...was here B4 , during, and after the AIDS epidemic. Once again we were in the spotlight (haight-ashbury, 49ers, Gold rush)
My question, why did gay men always spew hatred at we females..ie: walking down Polk I would feel like I was in a football game, as many times as I was 'purposely' shouldered outta the way..by the new 90's breed of gay men (buff and tuff, bald and shaved heads..first I thought it was new breed of 'english punk' -music-) Many times I'd be splattered on the sidewalk, without a hint of apology!!!
Now, it's PC to have 'girls' as friends...was it just a growing pain, growth spurt, WTF WAS THAT!!!! I'd run home crying cuz it hurt my body and soul....
and obvious question...why do they hate women yet transform into one????
ps..baby dyke , and butch comes to mind (early 80's) I went thru my moment believing I was gay...she was best person I ever had..... | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 12:26:40 PM | I don't think the rudeness that you've experienced in SF is a new or an excusively gay phenonmenon.
Having lived there myself, there are little old Chinese ladies on Muni that will kneecap you to get a good seat.
That many people + that close a proximity = bad attitudes.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I loved living in SF. Just really expensive. | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 1:22:25 PM | Dear Gay Guy:
I wanna know if CaliBob will find that coveted Mormon Missionary in his Christmas stocking or ~drawers~ come Xmas day!!!
Tip to CB: Buy the boy the dvd Latter Days for under his tree!
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 3:15:18 PM |
Dear Gay Guy:
I wanna know if CaliBob will find that coveted Mormon Missionary in his Christmas stocking or ~drawers~ come Xmas day!!!
Dear Boots,
I will have to confer with Santa's vile and rancorous brother, Phil, chair of the evil toy dept, to see of CaliBob has been a bad enough boy to get a missionary, one moment please...................I am sorry to report that Phil says NO but he can have either a Catholic or a Jehovah's Witness. Sorry Bob, there is always next year.  | |
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| ASK A GAY GUY Posted: 12/21/2007 5:40:43 PM | | I have a gay friend that likes to do that, go into bathrooms and watch other men pee. Or better yet, go into bathrooms and pick up men for a quick somethin somethin. He says many of the men he has sex with (usually hands and mouth only) are straight. They have wedding rings on and once had a quickie with someone with a baby seat in the back. Of the gay men I know, this is not that uncommon. What's up with this? | |
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