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 SassySky

Joined: 11/9/2007
Msg: 26
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Posted: 12/18/2007 6:37:48 PM

I'm curious cus it sounded like those guys really LIKED you!
How did you reply?
Did you do the typical "you can't be real" blowoff?

Maybe it's not what they said, but what you did.
something just doesn't compute.


Stray.. I am beginning to agree with you..

I had some sympathy starting but now.. None..
OP you don't it you just in my opinion want to rant..

This thread could have been a great on to debate to bad the ummm... what was that word again... Oh never mind not important..
I hate to see a great topic off....

But OP I will say you are right the guy was pig okay feel better..
I know I don't by saying that since no one was really there but you and him and there
always is two sides to every coin.
 RedCassandra

Joined: 10/9/2007
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Posted: 12/18/2007 7:01:10 PM

There is no man-speak, there is no woman-speak, only honesty and lies. Either gender is capable of both


I have to agree with this statement. Honesty is not gendered. Some men and some women are not able to be honest (or rather choose not to be honest). Some might be honest at the time when they say (write) those words, but then they might change their minds.

If I change my mind, I let the oter side know where I stand. And, I always prefer to be treated with honesty (and consequently, respect) even if I might not like what I am being told.

Bad news are better than no news... That is to say, being rejected is better than being stood up... me thinks.


They liked you, so you're supposed to like them back, damnit


Personally, I never thought that. I like some people and don't like others. I am perfectly aware that some will like me and others won't. I don't hold a grudge if a person does not like me, or stops liking me.

But, it makes me sad (not angry, I don't really do angry at my age) if one says "See you in ____ (insert number) hours" , and then never gives another sign of life. Ever. It's not even about whether the other is playing a game (other being a man or a woman), it's the total lack of respect that I see in such behavior.

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 Seavoyage

Joined: 1/18/2007
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Posted: 12/18/2007 8:02:28 PM
It is easy to boil things down to gender. It is how people approach the idea of words. Over 90% of us are heterosexual, so we can easily frame things in a woman versus man thing, but that's really a tough call without some study to back up what is being said. Many men have dealt with women whose actions seemed to contradict their words and so have women. I think there are some definite differences. However, you can find people of both gender who are upfront, don't play games, tell you what's on their mind, and how they feel, and you don't need to belong to a certain gender to do that. I think men are generally more direct even though they also use things like hints to some extent, but far less than women...
We both speak similarly but women lean more towards certain things maybe...
 str8ahd

Joined: 5/22/2007
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Posted: 12/18/2007 8:31:11 PM
If any man said any of those things to me, in the context they're presented, I would certainly never call him or pursue anything with him. No transalation necesary. None of that is what I want to hear and I can't believe a lot of men go around spouting that crap.
 ubkobalt

Joined: 5/7/2006
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Posted: 12/18/2007 9:30:23 PM

If any man said any of those things to me, in the context they're presented, I would certainly never call him or pursue anything with him. No transalation necesary. None of that is what I want to hear and I can't believe a lot of men go around spouting that crap.


Even if they honestly meant it?
 DoUCanoe

Joined: 7/28/2007
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Posted: 12/18/2007 11:11:27 PM
Even if they honestly meant it?


Duh! they're guys they never tell the truth.

OK, I have to admit I have done the nice, nice. But to tell the truth there was no more sincerity on the other end of the line and the proof was TA DA she blocked me within twenty four hours she had no need there was no way I was going to contact her again, my final thoughts were WACKO!! But that's life in the pond sometimes you run into green slime.
 Schadenfreudian

Joined: 7/5/2007
Msg: 32
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Posted: 12/19/2007 9:36:23 AM

...men and women both speak two very different languages.
I would like to see this tired, John Gray-ish, oft-unchallenged phrase retired. No wait a moment, I would REALLY like to see it executed, dragged out in public, and drawn and quartered by men and women who are nauseated with the invasive and pervasive language of pop psychology.

Damn...my "communication is key" made me forget the question.
 DoUCanoe

Joined: 7/28/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 9:40:07 AM
...men and women both speak two very different languages.

I would like to see this tired, John Gray-ish, oft-unchallenged phrase retired. No wait a moment, I would REALLY like to see it executed, dragged out in public, and drawn and quartered by men and women who are nauseated with the invasive and pervasive language of pop psychology.


Can't do. Daytime talk TV would die.
 clorin

Joined: 11/4/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 10:31:22 AM
1: if I say call me, call me. Do not wait 7 days, 4 months, or even 12 hours. give me a call in like 2 hours.

2: are you busy tomorrow, if not... lets do something!

3: I'm interested in you, Let see what will happen.

4: Woot, Got you!!!

Now leave the children alone and find a real man to take care of you emotionally. These people are all about games.

P.S. Please call me anytime, I would love to hear your voice
 passionandsong

Joined: 10/9/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 11:11:05 AM
you know i once thought the words "i am fine"meant im ok.you know ,dont need to worry about me.i was apparently very wrong.lol.i though the question what are you thinking?meant that someone really wanted to know what you were thinking....wrong again.i though that "you can go out with the boys on saterday,not a problem im fine with it.(always be warry of the fine word).meant i could go out with the boys.....not so much.ive since met a girl that i speak the same language with.lol.girls ask a lot about what guys want.the answer is simple.little to no confusion.
 CassaGo

Joined: 10/10/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 11:18:54 AM
Context, context, context!
 sailguy2k5

Joined: 7/29/2007
Msg: 37
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Posted: 12/19/2007 1:00:24 PM
I heard something similar, but.....

"Its not that Women dont talk, Men dont listen."

For instance, I went out with a woman once... she talked incessently about all kinds of stuff. Mostly about money, and "class status" and how she didnt really go for either one.. Okay, I'll go with it... As the night droned on.. I found out her last few 'boyfriends' were a doctor, a lawyer, and a lobbiest... So that got me to thinking. If she didnt care about 'money or class status' ... then why did she bring it up in the first place????

One just has to listen to what they say, the womanspeak, and a woman will tell you what she is looking for... almost all of the time.
 Stray__Cat

Joined: 7/12/2006
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Posted: 12/19/2007 1:08:07 PM
OK, I've learned in this thread that women DON'T want guys to say nice things to them.
Or compliment them. Or in ANY way be nice at all.
Wow! What an eye opener!
Yall are right!
How lame is that?!

In future, to deal with bittter hardened Forum Shrews I'll say:
Hey Hoe! Lets have hot nasty sex and bang till you puke!"

:-P
 kevinmach

Joined: 3/29/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 1:14:32 PM

I would like to see this tired, John Gray-ish, oft-unchallenged phrase retired. No wait a moment, I would REALLY like to see it executed, dragged out in public, and drawn and quartered by men and women who are nauseated with the invasive and pervasive language of pop psychology.


Ok, I laughed when I read this.... it is way overused.

But I will say much of what is in that book is very true when I applied it to context of relationships I've been in. It's worth the read.
 WonkaBar

Joined: 2/3/2006
Msg: 40
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Posted: 12/19/2007 1:49:28 PM

CAUTION: These statements should be never taken by their literally.. hence I feel there’s a need for translation/explanation.


Well, that's your first mistake. Some women always feel they "know better" and insist on explaining to men what they "really" think. This is condescending, rude, and a few other words I don't feel like using in polite company. Would *you* like to put up with someone who didn't take your words seriously? I know I wouldn't.
 passionandsong

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Posted: 12/19/2007 2:26:29 PM
wonkabar...check out my post on this page see if you agree with me.
 sailguy2k5

Joined: 7/29/2007
Msg: 42
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Posted: 12/19/2007 3:09:06 PM
On what planet do you live?????????????????????????
 Boomstrike

Joined: 12/1/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 3:11:18 PM
Why is there always a hidden meaning? Some people actually mean what they say.
I find that approach often backfires on me because I broke some kind of etiquette that always means something else. Some people like myself also have problems at expressing exactly what they want to say. I appreciate someone that questions my words rather than just blowing a gasket and assuming I meant something else.
 smilinglaughing

Joined: 2/20/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 3:19:21 PM
1. “Please call me anytime, I would love to hear your voice”

don't say it. I am not available 24/7.

2. I like you soooo much.

don't say it. a man is characterized by actions, not words, so its useless to say...

# 3. “ I always was attracted to women like you

is big bullshxxxit as everyone is individual creature, so...

I just see you are talking to men talking rubbish.
get a REAL MAN, not rubbishman
 passionandsong

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Posted: 12/19/2007 3:45:55 PM
the reason why girls kind of hide there intentions with there words is to find out information about you.believe them they have tried the dirrect approuch and have been burnt because of it.you can be comforted by the fact that if a girl is interested in you she will act this way.lol.to women actions speak louder than words,and even then they are wondering if you already know that.
 RulyRedhead

Joined: 12/15/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 5:06:45 PM
Words are words...actions is what you judge it by. Something you also got to take into consideration is we aren't always on the ball, numbers get lost, misplaced, smudged, washed. For a man to admit that he's done something THAT stupid....RIIIGHT

Second and more importantly in my eyes, why are you being passive?? Why is it that Men always have to pursue? I'll bet you more often then not, that it gets tiring to be the pursuer all the time, EVEN if you do catch them. I duly hope there is the female version of this somewhere, talk about HARD to read. So long as they make eye contact and the casual touch that accompanies the words. Casual touch is hands, back ( above the butt), cheek.

IF you are wanting to ACTUALLY see the truth, not turning a blind eye (he's hot, rich) and being honest you will know. If you get the slightest sexual touch (I've proven this) 90% he's lying though his teeth. Otherwise you gotta TRUST, if you can't on the first date, second or third, WHAT ARE YOU DOING CONSIDERING anything with this person
 RNBF

Joined: 11/13/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 5:14:14 PM
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don't say it. I am not available 24/7.

2. I like you soooo much.

don't say it. a man is characterized by actions, not words, so its useless to say...

# 3. “ I always was attracted to women like you

is big bullshxxxit as everyone is individual creature, so...

get a REAL MAN, not rubbishman

exactly. why say (and adamantly at that!) things you don't mean???

And where are the REAL men? I thought into late 30s and early to mid 40s men become more "real". But when I encounter this middle-school lingo/actions....
 RNBF

Joined: 11/13/2007
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Posted: 12/19/2007 5:17:15 PM

OK, I've learned in this thread that women DON'T want guys to say nice things to them.
Or compliment them. Or in ANY way be nice at all.
Wow! What an eye opener!
Yall are right!
How lame is that?!

just the opposite. You can be nice without misleading. Every compliment is 10 times more pleasant if it's MEANT and not just a lip service. Is it "nice" to say one thing but do / mean another?
 RNBF

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Posted: 12/19/2007 5:20:51 PM

1: if I say call me, call me. Do not wait 7 days, 4 months, or even 12 hours. give me a call in like 2 hours.


next day was too late? we just talked for an hour, so tomorrow should hve been fine?


2: are you busy tomorrow, if not... lets do something!

what if I am busy tomorrow? but free on Sun which is clearly stated? Too late?


3: I'm interested in you, Let see what will happen.

Ditto. So let's see, don't just disappear on me!
 passionandsong

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Posted: 12/19/2007 5:44:27 PM
alrighty then.....ya.
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