| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/19/2007 5:56:21 PM |
next day was too late? we just talked for an hour, so tomorrow should hve been fine? If I like you, and just talked to you a hour ago. I might have thought of something else I really wanted to know about you. Maybe hearing the voice (and picturing the face) could tuck me into one heck of a dream.
what if I am busy tomorrow? but free on Sun which is clearly stated? Too late? You are busy, That is understandable. Sunday will work (if I'm free.) Your choice this time..hehe.
Ditto. So let's see, don't just disappear on me! I'm not a magician, If I disappear... it is only because you pushed me away. | |
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| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/19/2007 6:38:24 PM | And where are the REAL men?
...avoiding the women who ask this question. It's a clear signal that you wouldn't know one if you fell over him. We'd rather not get involved with someone like that, because they're always doing things like... oh, I dunno, not believing a word we say and inventing their own "translations".
If you keep encountering "middle school lingo and actions" then you need to stop responding to. being attracted to, and keeping company with complete idiots. | |
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| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/19/2007 6:40:59 PM |
If any man said any of those things to me, in the context they're presented, I would certainly never call him or pursue anything with him. No transalation necesary. None of that is what I want to hear and I can't believe a lot of men go around spouting that crap.
Even if they honestly meant it? Ubkobalt, I may have missed something in the OP, but I just read it again and it still seems that it refers to a first date, or at least a time very early in the dating relationship. All of those statements would be way too much, way too soon, for me. I would not believe that he truly meant it and would believe that he was desperate, a stalker or a "nice guy" looking for a woman to manipulate into a relationship. | |
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| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/19/2007 6:47:15 PM | | I agree that we shouldn't put much stock into what someone says before you actually get into a relationship with you. In the beginning, the person is a bull-shi**er until proven otherwise. I like the British way of "you're guilty until proven innocent" when applied to dating. It doesn't mean you don't give them some benefit of the doubt, but you must assume a possible curve ball can hit you... I have learned this lesson the hard way.... I haven't read a dating book that talk about that point much... It's extremely important. | |
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| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/19/2007 7:53:53 PM | Post 51. see orig post. Make plans for Sun to be confirmed on Sat and never call. call next week like nothing happened. But these are details, what i mean is overall pattern of behavior.
To answer to other posters, some of these things were said on 1st dates, some - after few dates and even after asking to date exclusively. As I have said, this is a collection of expressions overtime. | |
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| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/20/2007 8:10:49 AM |
Ubkobalt, I may have missed something in the OP, but I just read it again and it still seems that it refers to a first date, or at least a time very early in the dating relationship. All of those statements would be way too much, way too soon, for me. I would not believe that he truly meant it and would believe that he was desperate, a stalker or a "nice guy" looking for a woman to manipulate into a relationship.
I would not believe that he truly meant it and would believe that he was desperate, a stalker or a "nice guy" looking for a woman to manipulate into a relationship.
Carefull... a woman making a statment about manipulation???? wooooo Danger Will Robinson, Danger!!! | |
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| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/20/2007 11:00:17 AM |
And where are the REAL men?
...avoiding the women who ask this question. It's a clear signal that you wouldn't know one if you fell over him. We'd rather not get involved with someone like that, because they're always doing things like... oh, I dunno, not believing a word we say and inventing their own "translations".
This is very true, and quite possibly one of the biggest "turn around and run the other way" things I see on a profile or hear women say.
It pretty much screams, "I can't get along with anyone" or " I am so completely frustrated with my inability to make decent choices in men, I now have baggage".
There's an old saying: When you make a critical comment of someone else, many times it says more about you, than it does about them. This is especially true of negative generalizations.
Unsolicited profile advice: Ladies, trust me on this one-if you have this on your profile, do yourself and favor and take it down. It's going to make every guy out there-good or bad-bristle. | |
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| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/20/2007 3:40:05 PM | ^^^^^ In the interest of, well...interest, consider this: Do women actually own the definition of what "real man" is. How many times have we heard or read from a woman attempting to cajole, shame, or humiliate a man whose opinion differs from hers with the ol' hackneyed, "Why don't you be a man about it..." and the dozens of variations on the theme. What, pray tell, would be the reaction of women if men turned the tables and began holding court and making judgment on what a "real woman" is?
Women tellling me to act like a real man, men telling women to act like a real woman makes about as much sense as telling a bowery bum to me more financially responsible. Lesson learned: Agree to disagree without stooping to pre-high school pecking-order language. | |
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| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/20/2007 9:05:06 PM | I find it easier not to assume that anything is going on and not to put too much importance in the lines being said.
I ask out again if I'm interest and will see. If there is actual interest, likely to see each other again several times.
BTW, the only time someone said something and I got to meet her again, was "see you soon", that's it (and no plans was made). Often "I will call you" is used as a polite thing. And with someone, she asked twice during the course of the evening if I would be interested to go out again with her -- never heard from her afterwards. From that experience, I learned that it is better not to put too much importance on words being said. If you are interested, just ask out again and if the other accepts, that shows some interest. | |
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| Man-speak and it's translation in dating Posted: 12/20/2007 10:58:49 PM | There is so much anger here that it has generated typos.
There is also nothing "helpful" at all here, it's a bitter, man-bashing gush of bile.
Not all men are like this. I would apologize on their behalf, but the men who have behaved this way with you (and don't get me wrong...I believe you've been through all this) don't deserve the support of my apology. I would advise you to instead look at your criteria for selecting men to interact with - of the men I know I believe that less than 5% would act this way...and that up to 5% are jerks who don't truly deserve any woman's time or attention. They tend to be very good looking, though. | |
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