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 pennilesswriter

Joined: 5/24/2007
Msg: 301
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Posted: 5/27/2007 10:33:26 PM
I agree with some of the other guys. Country music lost its soul when REAL country music faded out. The new stuff, while not necessarily having anything wrong with it, is way too formulaic for my liking. It's pop music with a twang.
 Mrrab20

Joined: 4/17/2005
Msg: 302
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Posted: 5/28/2007 5:48:33 PM
Personally, next to hip hop, r&b, and opera, country music is just one genre I will never really get into. I mean, the outlaw country is really good and I like artists who have elements of country music in them, but thats as far as I will get with country. Artists I do like that are considered country to me or have a big country influence are The Outlaws, Charlie Daniels Band, John Denver, Lee Ann Rimes, Bob Seger, John Fogerty and CCR, David Allan Coe, Johnny Cash, Neil Young, Pure Prairie League, heck, even Sweetheart Of The Rodeo by The Byrds is a great country album that they did, not to mention some of the stuff they did before then. But I'm mainly partial to old school heavy metal, early 90's alternative rock, oldies, and classic rock. Even acoustic music is relaxing as well. The only time I can truly tolerate country is when my relatives have it on at family get togethers, although lately, at one of the college bars, I've been known to put in a few country tunes just to please the ladies who get into them and to have a good mix.
 wryguy2

Joined: 3/16/2004
Msg: 303
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Posted: 5/29/2007 5:59:20 PM
Whats Is The Problem With Country Music?

Well, since you asked, if you are talking about Robbie Fulks, Joe Ely, Fred Eaglesmith, Alison Krauss, Buddy Miller, Jim Lauderdale, Joy Lynne White, Hank Williams, Merle Haggard, Dale Watson, Jimmie Dale Gilmore, The Robison Brothers, Hayes Carll, Lucinda Williams, Robert Earl Keene, James Hand, Steve Earle, Neko Case, Townes Van Zandt and the like... NOTHING...

But if you are talking about the stuff they are playing on Country Radio, Hot New Country or whatever they are calling it these days, Shania, LeAnn Rimes, Blackhawk,
Brooks and Dunn, Diamond Rio, Lonestar, Reba, Colin Raye, Kenny
Rodgers, David Lee Murphy and the like. PLENTY... Covers that add nothing whatsoever to the original. Rocked out (if that is a phrase) instrumentation to gain a wider audience and cover up any twangy voices. Watered down, disconnected lyrics, and on and on...
 gizmosellschickens

Joined: 5/20/2007
Msg: 304
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Posted: 5/30/2007 12:04:40 AM
Country music styles are blended in modern day rock and roll, and progressive rock music. Me I liked Waylon Jennings, Dixie Chicks, and Johnny Cash to the modern day country players. Im open minded with music for the most part.
 moxymusic

Joined: 11/19/2006
Msg: 305
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 6/16/2007 7:01:26 AM
As you said, many people who say they don't like country music probably haven't listened to true country music. They equate it with what I call "country pop" on radio.

They may also equate it with rednecks, and have some level of bigotry toward southern, and rural culture and its music.

The great beauty of country music is melody. Gorgeous, gorgeous melodies and harmonies. Other than opera, I can think of no other genre of music that makes greater use of the human voice and its potential.

And where else can you hear guitars, mandolins, fiddles, and pedal steels combined?

Don't despair. There are plenty of us country music lovers out there! I keep finding new artists I love all the time (although they will never be heard on the local pop country stations).
cheers, moxymusic
 Kustom_Cool

Joined: 6/17/2007
Msg: 306
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Posted: 6/28/2007 2:00:52 AM
I dont mind country, I am into rockabilly, surf and even a bit of swing but i still dig a bit of country, i have the radio in the car always on the country station becuase all the other stations just sound gay, i am pretty fussy with music and will only play stuff that is cool.
some of the country does too now sound crap, its like boy bands in cowboy hats . i prefer stuff like brooks & dunn or dwight yokham.
beats all that trendy gay crap on the mainstream stations that all the sheep listen too.
If you dont like country search through youtube for something like "hillbilly deluxe" by brooks & dunn to get a idea of what its like now, it might be a little rugged but blokes should like it.
 Anazdaddy

Joined: 7/12/2007
Msg: 307
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Posted: 8/8/2007 9:19:15 AM
I can honestly say that I like almost all music but country, bluegrass, and gangsta rap. And I have heard plenty. My parents were music oddballs, living in the northeast and loving country music. I heard plenty of it growing up in the 80s and hear plenty now when I am around them. One of my ex's also liked country. I have heard the lyrics. I have heard the instrumentation. I have heard the beat. I have heard the basslines. For whatever reason, none of those appeal to me in country music. Now a few songs here and there are ok..and I admit there are few very attractive female country music artists. But I just don't like the music. I do though, think people should experience something before they decide they just don't like it or stereotype it. Problem with a lot of country music though (and bluegrass and rap) is that so much of the actual music DOES reflect the stereotype. So many country music artists have made pickuptrucks, alcohol, and right wing conservatism major parts of their acts.
 funluvinbootscootin

Joined: 6/2/2007
Msg: 308
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Posted: 8/9/2007 6:44:42 AM
there is no problem with country music... ! People that say they like all music except 2 types... country and western (yeah, so it is kinda funny) are mainly saying so because a) it is funny and a cheap shot and b) they have no appreciation for good music (ok i threw that one in myself). Like anything its a matter of taste and if they dont like it who does it really affect.
 Schadenfreudian

Joined: 7/5/2007
Msg: 309
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Posted: 8/9/2007 12:51:26 PM
In my humble opinion, the problem is not with the music, but with the attitude of the person who makes the statement "anything but country."

I listen to all types, from serious classical (Mozart, Chopin, Shostakovich, etc.) to jazz to rock and country and Indian/Middle Eastern. I like it all. I'm also a composer who tries to blend music styles and themes not thought of fusing well. Right now I'm taking some country/western and bluegrass themes and structuring them atop samba, bossa nova and some African rhythms. So, to be shut off to country would be a detriment to innovation.
 BDRT

Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 8/9/2007 9:01:15 PM
I love country music. Of course, as in all music, there is good and bad. I have listened to it my whole life, and that's saying something, since I grew up in California in the 70's! I do enjoy other types of music as well.
For those who say traditional country is dead, try listening to Josh Turner or Dierks Bentley. There are a few others too.
I say to each his own, but I'm not going to put anyone down for the music they listen too. I don't want to be forced to listen to something I really don't care for, so having similar tastes in music or at least the ability to compromise on what is listened to would be a good thing.
 lover_of_dark

Joined: 3/29/2006
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Posted: 8/10/2007 2:48:26 AM
"SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH IT?"

It's not country anymore, that's what's wrong with it. And no, I think there is NO music listener in America who has "never heared" country music. It's hard to avoid.

But, to answer your question, country today is bloated, manufactured, overproduced and soullessly universal. And it's less country than soft rock with steel guitars, maybe a fiddle, and someone with an accent singing over it.
 jheldatksuedu

Joined: 3/11/2005
Msg: 312
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Posted: 8/13/2007 4:58:35 AM
I like country music because much of it tells a story, I agree I liked it better 20 years ago, and much of todays country is just pop with a twang. I wish that most of the bars would play it so that you could hear it instead of play it so loud you feel the base and the rest is noise that hurts the ears. Nothing nicer than dancing a country waltz on a dance floor with room to roam.

So to answer the question "What's wrong?" It's the same thing that wrong with most of society, it's driven mostly by dollars and not by the heart. There are still a few musicians that play from the heart but they are the ones you find on the back stages of the festivals or hear playing the band shells in the local arts in the park thing. They aren't the ones that everybody knows as COUNTRY but they are the true country music. Momma don't have to get run over by a train while walkin home from the jail, That's not country, but that's what many people think and hate. I think you'll have a much harder time finding people to not like a beautiful country waltz, tripple or two step about a young girls lost love, sung by an beautiful voice with an extrordinay musical range, accompanied by just a piano or guitar, maybe with a fiddle, banjo or mandolin thrown in. Many won't admit to liking it but you find them tapping their toes or fingers and swaying to the beat. That's country.

"If that's not country, ya can kiss my as.s" LOL
 Krackerjacks

Joined: 7/19/2006
Msg: 313
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Posted: 6/19/2008 4:43:49 PM
The problem with country music is that Nashville SNUBs the originators.

Unfortunately, this is true. Nashville is mega music factory. The general attitude there is "stick with what sells." If a large population of people want to hear some city dude in a cowboy hat trying to sing like George Jones and whining about his broken heart, the studios are going to be crammed with them.
 Silken Fire

Joined: 8/12/2007
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Posted: 6/20/2008 1:15:14 PM
In the words of Barbara Mandrell, I was country when country wasn't cool... I will always be country because it's far more than a cowboy hat or a guitar. It's a way of life!

My father and mother were both country musicians. Their jam sessions were the best times of my childhood. Bucky Owens, Waylon Jennings, Loretta Lynn, Don Gibson... all the old country was the stuff of my childhood. They sang about family values and a time when loving someone really was the best thing that could happen to us and breaking up with them the worst... (It's been so lonesome in the saddle since my horse died... ). Cheaters were taboo... "Your Cheatin' Heart" and boozers were bein' told, "Don't Come Home A-Drinkin' With Lovin' On Your Mind". The "other woman" was told, "You Ain't Woman Enough To Take My Man". Divorce made people cry, life and death were something we cherished and little kids even got recognition along with the animals.

I love today's country rock even more... Trace Adkins "You're Gonna Miss This", Montgomery Gentry's "Hell Yeah" and George Straight's "I Saw God Today"... There's such a variety right down to Toby Keith's endless bars & women songs...

I think that the original ladies of country actually had to rely on their talents whereas today's ladies seem to be relying on their physical attributes being "out there" but hell yeah... Country is forever...
 Charles_45

Joined: 5/28/2008
Msg: 315
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Posted: 6/20/2008 2:53:38 PM
Country turns a lot of people off because it's insipid, pretentious, overwrought crap, force fed on the unsuspecting public by an industry that demands lip-synced garbage from talentless hairdos and good ol' pretty boys.

If Patsy Cline and Hank Williams were around today, there'd be no chance in hell that either would get a second look.
 Ready4SomethingFun

Joined: 3/17/2008
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Posted: 6/20/2008 3:10:14 PM
It's scope is way too limited---- I got drunk at the honky tonk, cheated on my wife, now I'm puttin' a mailbox on my doghouse cause that's where I live, she don't love me no more, then the next is about the girl who is the greatest thing that ever happened to him, he got drunk again, cheated again, lost the girl, met the new greatest one. Just insipid!!!!

Country music insults a person's intelliegence on so many levels it isn't funny.



I did have a great idea for a country song with more urban lyrics though:

"She was a dope little filly...her dress was kinda frilly, but she wouldn't gimme no play.
Her duds were really fresh, and made in Bangladesh, and I guess she kinda liked it that way.
Oh yes she was a skeezer, I don't think no man could please her, maybe she is a tad bit gay
I took her to my crib, but she is too women's lib, and this homey wasn't havin' his day."
 AfterThe Rain

Joined: 9/2/2007
Msg: 317
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Posted: 6/20/2008 3:41:45 PM
ready4somethingfun said:

"She was a dope little filly...her dress was kinda frilly, but she wouldn't gimme no play.
Her duds were really fresh, and made in Bangladesh, and I guess she kinda liked it that way.
Oh yes she was a skeezer, I don't think no man could please her, maybe she is a tad bit gay
I took her to my crib, but she is too women's lib, and this homey wasn't havin' his day."


Oh......priceless I LOVE it!!!!!! Go for it!!!!
Loved your post....LMAO!

It really made my day.
 TheReason_

Joined: 9/19/2007
Msg: 318
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Posted: 6/20/2008 8:22:25 PM
I respect country artists that write their own songs. I don't respect the country hit machine which finds a pretty face, teaches her to sing (or not, hello Pro Tools) buy some songs from the hottest songwriters in the biz, and then churn out CD after CD. It really is an industry.

Again, if they write their own songs, I'm cool with it.
 rhodes73

Joined: 9/13/2006
Msg: 319
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Posted: 6/21/2008 4:07:15 PM
well if your talking about current country the problem to me is that it is not country at all.....it's bubblegum pop. just like the stuff that they call punk today....it's pop. country started to get deluted in the big folk craze of the 50s. most of the stuff after the 60s is not really country to me. i defietly like me some early george jones and merl haggert but i think it is that genaration of musicians who really paved the way for the current so called country.
 chickinpicker

Joined: 3/22/2008
Msg: 320
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Posted: 6/28/2008 4:57:01 PM
The problem with country, is that it is no longer "Country". It used to be that everyone had their own sound. If you was listening to the radio and a song came on, you knew right away who it was because everyone had their own sound. I am 37 and I remember growing up all my friends liked rock or they liked country, but the two genres were very different. Not many people seemed to like both. But then in the late 80's and early 90's country started to change in an effort to compete with pop....They did away with people like Haggard and Jones, Waylon, Dolly, etc. So what you are left with is a bunch of people who sound the same, Country is the only thing I listen to, but I listen to the old stuff. This crap they play on radio today is garbage!!!!! These people may have their million dollar record deals, but they aint country. A good country song tells a story, it makes you want to drink, or cry....or drink AND cry!! When you hear a song on country radio called "Jesus take the wheel" and it is actually a hit, a smash hit at that, you know that real country.....like the Outlaws used to play, is dead. You are better off listening to rock or blues, at least those people aren't sellouts like the country. I bet half these people singing country never been drunk, never had a woman cheat on them, never done a night in jail, etc. This is what country used to be, before the "Jesus take the wheel" crowd took over and killed it!!!!!!!!!!! As a die hard country fan, I don't blame you people who say you hate it, because Nashville hasn't given you a decent reason NOT to hate it. Of the people performing now, the only one worth a damn is Brad Paisley. He is Country but it is just a matter of time before the "trailer-park pop" people in Nashville get rid of him too.....Scott
 Rosebud41

Joined: 6/18/2008
Msg: 321
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Posted: 6/30/2008 12:15:48 AM
Country Music Isn't the same anymore. For Instants, Cowboy Troy-Since When, did country Music Have ANYTHING to do with Rap I mean COME ON!!!! I Love the Old simple Country music. Kitty wells, Loretta Lynn, Johnny Cash, etc. It Just ain't the same Anymore
 Wolfblood

Joined: 8/21/2007
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Posted: 6/30/2008 1:40:59 PM
I love country, but not pop country!

The reason why I hate mainstream country because its TOO POP!!

I can't stand Alan Jackson (corny 9/11 singer), Toby Keith, and the rest of those music row sell outs!!

I love more legendary and lesser known/underground country artists like Hank III, Unknown Hinson, Wayne Hancock, Bob Wayne, Johnny Cash, Merle Hagard, Waylon Jennings, David Alan Coe, and J.B. Beverley because they keep it old school and true!

Just check out Hank III's lyrics
"So I'm here to put the "d**k" in Dixie
and the "c*nt" back in country
'Cause the kind of country I hear now days
is a bunch of f****in' s**t to me
They say that I'm ill-mannered
that I'm gonna self-destruct
But if you know what I'm thinkin'
you'll know that pop country really sucks"

You are never going to see those lyrics in an Alan Jackson song.
 Smilingly

Joined: 2/27/2008
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Posted: 6/30/2008 2:29:22 PM
He he, I like some of today's country & even 'pop' country too :) tongue-in-cheek :)

Heck, I even write some :) lol

I was deeply prejudiced against country when I was in high school & all that was 'in' to listen was Jim Morrison & grunge & such :) /lol That makes me feel old! :)/ But then I learnt better :)

There's some awesome country music out there, old & new... with fun & empowering messages too...
True, not all of it is 'gold' but one has to sift through some stuff sometimes to find unexpected gems...

As for singers singing 'original' material... Well... I'm really glad there's people who do not write their own songs cause that gives a niche (& perhaps big royalties, he he!) to all the songwriters out there!! Not everyone wants to expose themselves as a singer, but they may write amazing lyrics &/or music!!
 im_literit

Joined: 11/7/2006
Msg: 324
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Posted: 6/30/2008 5:09:11 PM
Two words: Toby Keith. Complete sh!t.

Put on some Hank Williams Sr. and I'll drink the night away with you. Twang / alt-country is OK to, as long as it stays true to thier bluegrass, folk, rockabilly or honky-tonk roots.

The rest of the pandering ,"faux-blue collar", family values types should be, as they say: "shot and p!ssed on".
 rebel777

Joined: 3/22/2007
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Posted: 6/30/2008 6:53:21 PM
I find alot of country music boring...and very easy to play,just not my thing..ain't nothing wrong with ya if you enjoy it...
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