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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/25/2009 12:42:33 PM | I have always liked country music but do not have much use for what is being handed out these days as country. Loved Johhny Cash, Kris Kristofferson, some Willie, Dwight Yoakum - the ones who had their own sound and style and you recognized their voices as soon as the song started. Today it could be anyone singing - cookie cutter cowboys I believe is the label that's been stuck on them. and I believe this is the problem with country music today.
I find one notable exception being Johnny Reid who hailes originally from Scotland - he has the voice and really does not sound country but guess that was the genre they stuck him in.
I have moved on to singer songwriters like Tom Russell, John Prine, Townes Van Zandt and somehow Kris still fits in there. I guess this is more a "roots" type of music rather than country but it is real music, with great lyrics. Just my 2 cents worth. | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/26/2009 9:51:01 PM | What is the problem with CM in todays day and age?
How about the commercialism? It seems that's pretty much all the labels look at and it really hurts the artists who have that unique vocal talent, those artists who write songs that make you think (Johnny Cash-Drive On) or touch the heart (Keith Whitley-Don't Close Your Eyes) or just plain make you laugh.(David Allen Coe-You Never Even Called Me by My Name)
CM is also changin, becomin a different style then the classic country. It's more crossin country with pop rock. Look at the pop rockers (Kelly Clarkston/Miley Cyrus) who are tryin country style songs.
I've been a supporter/fan/friend of a young country artist for the last three years now and he's got the talent, artistry, and writing skills of the classic country style. I think it's one of the reasons he's on such a slow progress of becomin a "big star" of country music TV/radio but has spent more time on the Grand Old Opry than any other new artist of his age. Ya'll are probably wonderin ok, what's his name already. His name is Chris Young. If you go to MySpace and search for him you'll find his page and can listen to his newest single "Gettin You Home" which has been out for six weeks and is already at #44 on the R&R charts 
To me, this is what CM is about....
Off soap box.... | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/27/2009 9:32:11 AM | What's wrong with country?
Nothing if you're talking the 90s and older.
Newer stuff...*cough* Taylor Swift *cough* is pop more so than country.
As for the people who said...a long time ago but I'm anal and have to put my two cents in, 1. Don't insult a genre of music for being ignorant when you can't spell simple words. 2. There's some great country lyrics that have NOTHING at all to do with what people stereo type it as. "Front Porch Looking In" by Lonestar, GREAT song. Nothing to do with "rednecks". | |
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Posted: 3/28/2009 10:51:52 AM | The thing I like about country music is it allows for humor to be integrated easier than what mainstream rock does' there's alot of good funny tunes that come out dealing with real life and its comic side. Rock seems to focus on the politics and get the girl stuff so much more. although I've heard some rap tunes that have been showing some funny side stuff. There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of comic air to what being produced out of rock rap pop' and ya have turn to country to get a good laugh at life'
not everything in life should be takein so serious, and I wish there was more'..
Tenasious D' is about as good as it gets for that nowadays that I've heard, but Jack is a crack up and you can exspect some of that from him thankfully'...
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/29/2009 6:55:33 AM | | I agree Courage, basically I think that a lot of people tend to stereotype country music, its such a broad field and not just Dolly and Kenny. Same as with Jazz, a lot people think of progressive jazz and tend to lump all in with that. For my money its hard to beat Maria McKee or the Cowboy Junkies, I think that they have suffered from that stereotype! | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/29/2009 7:39:19 AM |
although I've heard some rap tunes that have been showing some funny side stuff.
Like "White & Nerdy" or "Amish Paradise"? Or are we talking like old school DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince "Parents Just Don't Understand" type of stuff?
I think the thing I find ironic is when I read the people telling others not to judge the entire genre while they go on to judge entire eras. Sure, country music may not be in a golden era right now, but there is plenty of good stuff out there. | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/29/2009 7:40:13 PM | | I gotta expand on a couple of points already made here. First, I agree that for all the good Nashville has done for bringing country music to the people, they seem to place one step forward and then take two steps back sometimes. I lived in Nashville for awhile (I was trying to break into the music business there, like thousands of others.) and the sad fact is, Nashville is mostly interested in what's marketable and will sell records. The second point I want to agree with that I've read here is if you really want to find out what authentic country music sounds like, listen to the innovators. H. Williams, L. Lynn, G. Jones, & M. Haggard are good places to start. It's tempting to mention J. Cash, but he started out as a Rockabilly musican and evolved into kind of a folk singer. Not exactly, what "Roots" country is about. Once you've explored the basics, it's my opinon the majority of the "real deal" country artists either started or remain in Texas. Billy Joe Shaver, Waylon and Willie, David Allen Coe, Joe Ely & Guy Clark are good examples. One final note, y'all: if you insist on going north of Texas, don't go to Nashville, give Bluegrass a try. Now, there's geniune country music. | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/29/2009 7:41:24 PM | | I gotta expand on a couple of points already made here. First, I agree that for all the good Nashville has done for bringing country music to the people, they seem to place one step forward and then take two steps back sometimes. I lived in Nashville for awhile (I was trying to break into the music business there, like thousands of others.) and the sad fact is, Nashville is mostly interested in what's marketable and will sell records. The second point I want to agree with that I've read here is if you really want to find out what authentic country music sounds like, listen to the innovators. H. Williams, L. Lynn, G. Jones, & M. Haggard are good places to start. It's tempting to mention J. Cash, but he started out as a Rockabilly musican and evolved into kind of a folk singer. Not exactly, what "Roots" country is about. Once you've explored the basics, it's my opinon the majority of the "real deal" country artists either started or remain in Texas. Billy Joe Shaver, Waylon and Willie, David Allen Coe, Joe Ely & Guy Clark are good examples. One final note, y'all: if you insist on going north of Texas, don't go to Nashville, give Bluegrass a try. Now, there's geniune country music. | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/30/2009 1:27:41 PM | I find this thread fascinating since I'm a recent country convert.
Growing up in the 70s, I think I've gotten the best of the rock in my soul. During that decade I tended to like some "country" bands such as Pure Prairie League, New Riders of the Purple Sage, Marshall Tucker Band, bands along those lines. We used to call it Country Rock. Some of the Dead falls into that category, as did some of the Eagles stuff, Doobie Brothers etc.
My question is, since I'm drawn to the new country artists like Billy Currington (I can't stop listening to him or looking at him!  ), Dierks Bentley, George Strait, Josh Gracin, Pat Green etc. am I listening to Pop Country? I can't stand Pop Rock it would be weird to find out I'm a Pop Country gal.
What am I listening to that I like so much??? | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/30/2009 6:39:38 PM | | Balboa, that's not just Nashville, that's the entire, major, music business that's only concerned with what's selling right now. | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 3/30/2009 8:04:17 PM | I've never been a real fan of it because *in general* it's a pretty narrow 'media'. That is it tends to have certain vocal inflections that represent ranch life which...I don't relate to much I guess ... tends to focus around drinking and pick up trucks which I don't do/have... and or broken relationships which I'm not interested in :-)
I've heard some songs that aren't in that field that I don't mind. But I enjoy using all the creative bandwidth. I mean if you are stuck with a steel guitar and acoustic and mic and that's all you can afford well man..pour your heart into it. I personally have a bunch of synths hooked up, electric guitars and amps and effects, bass guitar/amp, electronic and real drums. Creative headroom baby. And it rarely leads me to sing nasal into a microphone and strum on an acoustic with some pedal steel whimpering over the top :-). It's been done. Let's move on. -Bob | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 4/1/2009 6:39:57 PM | Thanks for answering hawaiianluau. Are the other artists I mentioned pop country artists? If so, what makes them different from George Strait?
I've been thinking about this ever since I read this thread. I understand, I think, what the diehard country fans are saying, to a point. I love classic rock, grew up with it when it was current. There have always been different genres within rock - soft rock, pop rock, bubble gum rock, heavy metal, country rock, hair bands, the California sound, southern rock etc. None of those specific genres has ruined "rock". Rock is rock. I personally wouldn't call some of the music I hear rock, like the top 40 stuff you may hear on the radio, the Britney Spear stuff, but it's classified as rock. I would just call it pop, that's all, no rock at all. Still, it hasn't ruined anything, it's just not something I like.
So why is what some consider pop country, ruining country? How is it possible? Is it that you just don't like the pop country stuff? What makes pop country, pop? Is contemporary country, pop country?
I just by chance came across a country station one morning while flipping through stations and Billy Currington's Must Be Doing Somethin' Right was playing. That song just grabbed my interest instantly! Also, what it made me do is listen to the country station. Now I find I like a lot of country. Itunes has been thanking me the last month or so. And thanks to Genisus, I'm finding more and more artists I like. How could that be a bad thing?
I'm not arguing with anyone, just trying to understand. I'm new to country music, couldn't tell you anything about it other than what I like. This is not the first time I've heard of this argument about the new country ruining the old country, I would truly like to understand if anyone has the time. Thanks!  | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 4/3/2009 1:43:52 AM | | I like a few of the newer country guys. I like Brad Paisley and Keith Urban, but overall I think old country was a lot better. Once Garth Brooks hit the stage almost everyone tried to imitate him and thats the problem I think. | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 4/27/2009 9:00:04 PM | | Country music can be fun music too listen to, or play! I don't know why so many people hate on a certain type of music lol most of any type of music today is made up of the 12 bar percussions,, and that means Country music is closer to rock and other types of music than some people would like to admit lol :) | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 4/28/2009 8:27:53 AM | | I have to agree I listen to country, but I will also listen to pretty much any kind of music depending on my mood cus at least with country music you can understand what they are trying to say. | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 5/1/2009 7:48:56 PM |
SO, I AM A COUNTRY LISTENER
BUT I DO LIKE AS WELL EVERYTHING, FROM HEAVY METAL TO CLASSIC, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT I HAVE MET PEOPLE DURING THE YEARS AND THEY SAID THAT THEY "LIKE EVERYTHING BUT COUNTRY" AND THEY EVEN HAD NEVER HEARED IT, SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH IT?[\quote]
I was forced to listen to a lot of country as a child, so my opinion on it is informed (well, as up to 10 years ago).
I've found country bland. The same sound, the same problem, the same mindset. Garth Brooks was different, and there are a bunch of really good country songs. Amazed by Lonestar, The Thunder Rolls by Garth Brooks are two I can name on my playlist right now. My assumption is that Country is boring and repetitive to a lot of people.
Wanna try something that is the polar opposite of Country? Try JPop. Japanese Pop music. Like listening to a bunch of childish, cute hamsters high on cocaine and love. | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 5/2/2009 7:10:32 PM | When G.W. Bush first ran for office, he'd figured out key catch phrases and words to toss out that were guaranteed make evangelical/conservative christians take notice. He made em think that he was speaking "their" language and they gave him their vote.
Pop country and other pop genres do the same thing. They prey upon ASPECTS of a musical style/genre/ or sound and capitalize on it.
Darius Rucker, from Hootie and The Blowfish fame, is doing country. I mean c'mon!
SOME of Hank III is country and some of it, is a crossover. He does traditional country, like his grandpa did. He has some original country stuff. And then he crosses country over with hardcore.
Some say Hank Jr. is more rock than country. Some say Garth Brooks ain't country.
Country music has many faces. Most of the ones I like, don't headline major venues. | |
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| WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH COUNTRY MUSIC?
Posted: 5/4/2009 8:34:06 AM | I don't like country music a whole lot. Like those guys from Top Gear say, It's rubbish. They're a bunch of hillbillies at the wholedown. If I listen to it my ears will bleed.
I listen to mosty Rock, Classic rock, Alternative rock, Punk rock, New wave, Hard rock like AC/DC, Heavy Metal, Speed metal/Thrash like Metallica, Beach music, Rap, Hip hop and R&B.
I don't mind Jimmy Buffett, there's that song from Taylor Swift "Love Story", That song from the eagles "Take it easy", and that other song "Sultans of swing". | |
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