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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 3:00:28 PM | | I agree with you Montana Girl, you first talk for awhile, online and phone many times, meet think you click, go out again, then while setting up additional dates, he just stops talking and then I had one guy remove his profile. What is this, we all are past the teenage stage I thought. Come on guys if you really don't want to see us again, just say so. | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 3:02:00 PM | Montana.....The true and honest guys are still here. They have become dormant due to the untrue and not so honest women.In order for a person to find another person of the true and honest venue, one has to be that way themselves. It is a shame that people of that nature have been put on the back burner, due to what others are.
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 3:10:39 PM | of course i have sent quite a few messages out ( as men do ) but got little response.
the women just look at the profile pics and judge the person sending the mail from that , they will of course have no idea if that guy is genuine, honest, caring, loving or respectfull if they never get in contact and find out if he is true or honest.
I looked at your profile, Porterbrook. Why do you think women don't reply to you because of your photos? Couldn't it also be your profile itself. Obviously, THIS isn't the place for a profile review, but you might want to participate in one of those ongoing threads for some feedback (or email me if you want).
I can't see how your LOOKS would stop a woman from replying to an email from you.
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 3:13:28 PM | Hi!
Wanted to put my 2 bits in on this one........Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
1. They left this site because it was too frustrating....everyone seems to be looking for perfection.
2.They get passed over.
3.You'll find them where you least expect it.
4.Nobady answers their e-mails from them because their just to good to be true......figure there has to be something wrong with them.
Well that's my two bits for what it's worth.
Take care.
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 3:16:29 PM | | Don't give up okay!! I have been in this situation myself and just when I was about to pull my profile, poof there he was! We have been together for awhile now and he is more than I could have asked for. A NICE guy, considerate, loving, cute and a real hottie!! I have met many toads, but it has been worth it.....nice guys rule - you will meet one just like I did, and to hell with the ***holes, they are everywhere so just ignore them - I am pulling my profile but just want to let you know that they do exist, and will outshine all of the others - good luck girl !! | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 3:22:38 PM |
I stand behind my word that an 18 yr old is a child to anyone over 25 so if you are a legalized pedophile........ keep it to yourself.......
The bitter and nasty men will target children more to abuse them and so much the better for them if they are barely legalized..........They are ruined so are always seeking someone to ruin also.......Get a life.....
So in your mind anyone over 25 is a pedophile if they date anyone under that age?
You say 18 is a 'child'? What age would YOU say that a woman can date anyone she wishes to date (or visa versa)?
What if you say '20' years old is okay, but SOMEONE ELSE said dating a 20 year old is a pedophile? should we up it to 26 years old just to be safe?
Maybe you'd prefer a LAW be enacted so that people could only date within 3 years either side of your own age?
Your stance is Ludicrous.
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 3:31:39 PM | You dont want a nice honest guy.. they dont excite you. what women want is a bad boy they can "fix". but does that ever work?
plus...you wont find any nice honest guys because you broke up with them a long time ago .... or simply never felt any initial attraction to them.
OR you may be so emotionally frazzled from a bad experience in the past that NO man will ever hold a candle to the expectations your holding out for.
my last girlfriend was like that.. everything out of my mouth was a lie and everything i did was just another way or opportunity for me to cheat on her.. "IN HER HEAD"
of course after 11 arduous months of trying in vane to prove to her my loyalty we finally parted ways . It took me a long time to get over her but got over her I did.. and thank god.. my relationship with her nearly ruined my life.
I think you need to spend some time being happy with being alone..
I prescribe no relationships for you for at least 6 months.
Ill send you my bill
LOL
Your artistic neighbor,
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 3:33:32 PM |
You may not be attracted to honest and true guys. Face it, there are a great many true and honest out there, the problem is they generally don't come off as "exciting" or "mysterious" because they tell the truth about themselves and don't feed a woman a line of BS to impress her or get her into bed. Many women are taken in by the BSer types, and find them attractive and exciting, and find the honest types boring and predictable. With that, it's little wonder so many women complain that they cannot find honest men.
omg , freebird, dude your few brief words speaks volumes!
I remember when I was in my 20's , single and out and about on a Friday night or the week-end and the ladies would be lined up and falling over to hook-up with then the playboys and now they are called players and myself didn't have chance because the bs each guys dished out was beyoud a regular guy could do. And the girls loves it! These guys didn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out yet it didn't matter to them !
Needless to say these gals after being married and divorced 2 or more times with these types were sittin on the curb with a couple of kids on tow in what had happen and why all these guys these guys are such a jerks! Duh! I made a some bad choices! duh!
A lot of the posts here always reflect eventually in how a former spouse in why oh why they do the things they do. Duh!
I was only married once,20 years and we both came from the same cut of cloth for the most part, with similar goals and inspirations.
If you want someone that's too good to be true and good for a part time thingy? great!
and if you want to meet someone with substance,...well you never know.
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suzi d
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Joined: 10/10/2007
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 4:34:24 PM | | I agree with you,its just happened to me AGAIN, oh yes im a great girl so ive been told...if im so great why, do they do a runner? i must admit ive met a couple of guys off here that werent what they said,so i made it clear that there wouldnt be another date the last one i met i dated for 6weeks only to be let down again new years day,HAPPY NEW YEAR ,not the best start ive had,i had no idea at all that he was going to end it,he was a very good actor,being sweet & considerate,up untill the last minute then ,as you said turn around and boom they"ve gone,it was nothing i"d said or done,im a great girl,but it took him 6wks to realise he didnt want me,and all the time i thought things were going well,no indication at all that he wasnt happy....i"d rather he had said he just wanted company over the xmas period. so i ask the same question"where have all the true & honest guys gone. im getting tired of my heart being broken too.......SO COME OUT,COME OUT WHERE EVER YOU ARE, surely there are some out there or is there ???????? | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 4:48:41 PM | | It's been my experience that men will say anything in order to get physical. So don't believe a word he says until he takes the time to get to know you. Be honest but protect your heart and soul. | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 4:52:45 PM | suzi d ......
perhaps he doesnt like foreign holidays , weekends away or your shift patterns.
dont be so easy or quick to trust or believe in some one.
iam sure you are a great girl, you look great by the way.
oh by the way suzi d , join the club, iam in the same boat as you, in fact iam sat right behind you.
good luck for 2008, keep at it but dont try too hard. | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 5:05:24 PM | It's been my experience that men will say anything in order to get physical. So don't believe a word he says until he takes the time to get to know you. Be honest but protect your heart and soul.
And that possibly being your experience that has made you jaded, and from a comment like that it's obvious you hold onto it and project it onto every single guy you meet.
Some times it will be correct, and for the times that it isn't either the guy will be frustrated at your anger and not understand and leave, which you'll justify with :
"He just wanted to get me into bed and when he knew he couldn't he ran, all men, every single one without exception are [insert expletive here]".
Then you'll have the guys that will see what you're thinking a mile off and wont even bother with people who pre judge them based on a jaded attitude i.e. yours. Even if you are ever aware of those guys, ever time you'll justify it with :
"He just wanted to get me into bed and when he knew he couldn't he ran, all men, every single one without exception are [insert expletive here]".
Then will follow up every situation with :
"Where are all the nice guys, all I meet is [insert expletive here], that's the only kind of men that exist"
Well done, you're a victim of your own beliefs, the sooner you stop trying to blame others for that you might see something quite positive happen, in the mean time it doesn't matter what kind of guys turns up, you've already judged and decided.
Personally every time I come across girls like that I feel sorry for them, and move onto a woman who is more developed. | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 5:08:05 PM |
Ah yes, more generalizations, blaming others and not accepting the situation
Amen Jemue,
A generalization thread at it's best,
and accepting the situation, well,.....ah,ah, ah, but,ah... | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 6:58:32 PM | There are true and honest guys all around. But for some reason, a lot of women keep complaining that the only guys they date are jerks. When I've seen women who said that, I had to agree with them. The only guys they dated were obviously jerks. The funny thing is, there were other guys around to date, but those girls never dated them, or even bothered talking to them.
I would suggest that the next time you go out, you count how many guys there are in the room. Then, count the guys you would probably date. Then go over to a few different people, and ask them what their opinion is of their friends. You'll probably find that the guys who you would date, are called "jerks" or "a laugh", and the guys who you wouldn't think to date, are called "nice", or "great". It might help you understand why you find it hard to meet true and honest guys. | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 7:05:02 PM | That's for sure! My experience has been that some of the smoothest "talkers" have
the most experience (if you get my drift). It's just a game to them, and there seems
to be alot of game players online. Unfortunately, I think alot of guys use the internet
as just another means of finding "new" women. And the thrill is always the next adventure. If you call them of it, they'll somehow turn it around on the woman, saying that you are rushing them by expecting anything that resembles monogamy, which just fits perfectly with their true profile, that of never accepting any responsibility for their actions. I wish there was a way to identify these men without dating them! | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 7:07:56 PM | | Believe me,there are tons of honest guys out there but we don't all look like Brad Pitt or have Donald Trumps money.Women seem to have it in their heads that only movie star material guys are honest and loyal.Truth be told,guys that you figure are HOT don't have to rely on crutches like being honest or loyal because women are more interested in looks ,social standing or wealth.I know I will catch lots of flack over this but it must be said.YOU are creating your own disappointment because YOU expect that if a man is good looking,he must be a nice guy.Not always the case.Most of the AVERAGE looking guys are genuine and might just be what you are seeking in a man,except they don't fit your IDEALS.Give a guy a chance.Didn't your momma tell you not to judge a book by it's cover?Do you drive a Rolls Royce?Probably not and settle for something more practical,like a Pontiac.Pontiacs are pretty nice,reliable and would do you just fine.I would like to find a woman who makes my friends envious,but am more interested in reality,and realistically,I would be happy with someone who wants to be with me because of who I am,and not because I look like Brad Pitt.I don't by the way and that's fine with me. | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 7:24:08 PM | | Sorry ladies,but if you want to be treated like a LADY,you have to act like one.I have been at the mall and opened the door for strange women and been told "I am quite capable of opening my OWN door."My reply was "I'm sorry,I mistook you for a lady."Sometimes guys,we just can't win. | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 7:51:25 PM | That's for sure! My experience has been that some of the smoothest "talkers" have
the most experience (if you get my drift).
So anyone who is eloquent and charming is a "player" and to be instantly distrusted, I must tell all my female friends instantly about that one.
It's just a game to them, and there seems to be alot of game players online.
"Them" being all men ? And you know they think it's a game as you've asked them in depth about it ? Oh no wait, that would take quite honest and direct communication up front.
Unfortunately, I think alot of guys use the internet as just another means of finding "new" women.
Oh indeed, as women never do that .......... how's that pedestal or promoted to an ivory tower now ...
And the thrill is always the next adventure.
Speak for yourself, just about all people I talk to agree the thrill is the current adventure, though project away, who am I to think differently .....
If you call them of it, they'll somehow turn it around on the woman, saying that you are rushing them by expecting anything that resembles monogamy, which just fits perfectly with their true profile, that of never accepting any responsibility for their actions.
And "their"story was never different from the beginning ? as it was never assumed what their intentions or actions were leading to, oh no ..... forbid there is any honest and direct communication from either side.
I wish there was a way to identify these men without dating them!
It's very simple, it's called being honest with yourself and communicating, and if you start lying to yourself on either point then there is no one else to blame.
Ah the joys of generalisation and blame ........ such weak and convenient shields to try and hide behind, the irony being that the honest and real people who seem them, also see the jadedness and move on, so the people projecting them create their experiences around them.
Everyone here can have a wakeup cookie and move on. | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 9:49:18 PM | | Na porterbrook, Anyone that keeps track of legal ages for sex is often looking for the barely legal. Its called sexual tourism. And that just hits creap factor. Your the one bragging. I think darkchocolate just made the same observation I did, you just didn't get it. | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 10:23:23 PM | Is it only the young guys or is it that the older men, are into head games as they get older?
I find that older men are just into head games as well as young men... and yes I hear it from both men and women that women/men are into head games... some are in fact serial on line dating both men/women... men want to see how many ladies they can date and laid every night or day as well as women looking for a free laid or a free meal for the weekend ... I guess that's why men don't want to settle and find decent ladies that are looking for a fun and loving guy to be with and enjoy good times with for LTR. But why should they ? When they are getting it for free from on line serial dating ( online males/ females whores). I been told this by so many men .. this makes it hard for us women who are honest loyal trusting decent and want a true relationship... excuse me for saying what I had to say but hey I heard it from both women and men on POF and other dating site.. I am sure there are some true men in here who are also looking for honesty but haven't met or already met some nice lady to take them away from this place.... Good Luck ! Happy Hunting for that special person ... | |
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 10:29:24 PM |
Na porterbrook, Anyone that keeps track of legal ages for sex is often looking for the barely legal. Its called sexual tourism. And that just hits creap factor.
It sounds as if this pedophilia thing has infected your entire life, RedSasha. It isn't good. Even your profile goes on and on about it. How can having sex with someone of LEGAL AGE be pedophilia??????? And why should a mother or father here that happen to have a picture of them with their kids be prohibited??? Do you really see a pervert in ever corner??
It can't, and it's not.
And "sex tourism" is about having sex with UNDERAGED children, usually in thirdworld countries, not Brittish ADULTS.
I personally find it strange that in Washington state a man can go to prison for having sex with a 17 year old but in Virinia (I believe) a 60 year old can legally marry a 14 year old and it's legal. [shrug]
Your serious problems with this issue is going to cause problems in your life if you don't take care of it. (oh, and so you know, it took me about 3 seconds to find 'age of consent' online and the first hit in AVERT... an agency trying to prevent under-aged AIDS worldwide... just so you don't have to start saying I'm a pedophile too. I looked it up just for you.)
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Mulva
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Joined: 12/28/2007
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| Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/2/2008 11:48:24 PM | Your stance is Ludicrous
No, she has every right to her opinion and shouldn't be put down for it.
an 18 year old is a woman, not a child
My bosses 18 year old son came into work today - he's a kid, I'd feel like a total perv being with a baby like that - and my boss would kill me!
probably in the can taking a dump.
So, that's why this thread stinks ;)
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