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 rudds67

Joined: 10/14/2006
Msg: 176
Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/3/2008 12:06:03 AM
oh....i know where we have gone...
we have all gone to the 24 hour wal-marts....
 drmmergy

Joined: 10/25/2007
Msg: 177
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Posted: 1/3/2008 12:09:18 AM
We're out here,but nobody stops to give us a second look.Everyone else is off speed dating,or too busy bashing guy's to stop and notice, the rest of us that are in the game.
The tables could easily be turned,and we could ask the same question to the women we are trying to get attention from. But, that's another subject for a different day.
 interorl7

Joined: 5/26/2005
Msg: 178
Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/3/2008 12:25:52 AM
We are out here, but probably hoping that you will say Hi as you ladies get bombarded with emails, but most of us guys, well we are happy to get an email!

Some of us even 'respect' that 'Thank you but no thank you emails!" At least it is a response.

I know I sometimes wonder, if someone just got too many emails, got busy with life, as we all do, and did not make time to respond or just got busy and forgot.

Easy to forget when you get hundreds of emails I suppose.

Of course you could have a 'mail setting' that 'prevents' us from contacting you, so if we look at you and you like what you read in our profile, say "Hi", we both might be glad that you did!
 Soul Union

Joined: 6/9/2007
Msg: 179
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Posted: 1/3/2008 12:35:26 AM

Where have all the true and honest guys gone? ~ Montana Girl

> Maybe to the same destination as all the true and honest women.
> Peter.
 Guilty Of Sin

Joined: 11/28/2007
Msg: 180
Where have all the True and Honest Guys Gone?
Posted: 1/3/2008 1:54:52 AM
True and honest men do exist, sometimes its just as simple as giving them a chance, but the truth of the matter is nice guy syndrome. Nice guys finish last? lol I was a nice guy at one point in time, but it was getting me nowhere because you gotta be somewhat of an A**hole to get anywhere in life. when it comes down to it, true and Honest men are only that way for so long before they get mistreated and give up that persona. What works for some doesn't work for all. You can only be true and honest for so long before you get walked all over. There are exceptions to the rule i guess, and true and Honest gentlemen do Exist. Chivalry isn't dead.
 ~UNIQUE~

Joined: 2/23/2007
Msg: 181
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Posted: 1/3/2008 3:26:23 AM
There is not a doubt in my mind that there are True & Honest men in this world.

It would sure be nice to meet one!

~UNIQUE~
 porterbrook

Joined: 6/18/2007
Msg: 182
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Posted: 1/3/2008 3:35:27 AM
Red_Sasha34

msg 172.

yes i totally aggree with you in your message, now will you please STOP having a go at me.
somewhere along the line you have somehow brought me into one of your concerns, where have you got this idea that iam trawling this site looking for 16 year olds, firstly you are supposed to be 18 to register on here.
What also has sex got to do with anything. Darkchocolat was writing about someones " AGE", what i was TRYING to get over and now it seems to YOU as well is that in my country GREAT BRITAIN, someone who is 18 is NOT considered a child but actually an ADULT, or lets say a YOUNG ADULT.
Also in my country it is LEGAL for a person at the age of 16 to engage in any sexual activity, it is also LEGAL in my country for one of these so called children as you like to call 17 year olds to drive motor vehicles on her majesties highways.

If you care to look at my profile iam looking for friends, NOT dating...

somewhere along all this you have mistook and twisted my words.

thank you.
 helinda

Joined: 3/3/2007
Msg: 183
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Posted: 1/3/2008 4:21:28 AM
Hi Montana Girl,
Yes the good guys are out there,most with good girls that came to them after all the excitement of the bad boys they had been dating,enjoying,loving,but could never live with. Like many men,a lot of women want it all,the excitement,the daring ,the danger,but not the consequences.
The good guys are there,but why should they have to wait until all the adrenalin junkies have had their excitement,but now want to settle down.
I know all women are not like this,but there are many who are.My advice would be to forget the "Bad Boy" attraction. Go for the good guy first,and if you want real excitement make it with him,most ordinary men can and should be exciting,but very few "exciting" men can be normal,and normal is a much distrusted state,and yet a much sought after way of living.
The right person is out there for you,and you wouldn't be on the site if you didn't think this was true. The right person will come along,and he may not be as forthcoming ,or as exciting,at first,but he will get there eventually,and you will eventually get the contentment that you yearn for. Good luck.
 anarkaos

Joined: 9/11/2007
Msg: 184
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Posted: 1/3/2008 4:36:37 AM
Why bother looking? You find a "true and honest guy" and you'll just want to be his "friend" he's either not good looking enough, not rich enough, not exciting enough. But he's ok to be friends with after all he's true and honest and no threat and always good as a shoulder to cry on. After all you wouldn't want to ruin the friendship by becoming lovers, who would you run to or blame then for everything going wrong?
 porterbrook

Joined: 6/18/2007
Msg: 185
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Posted: 1/3/2008 11:53:18 AM
anarkaos.

couldnt have put it any better my self.

how many times do we have to tell these women tho, but they never listen .

we are allways wanted when it goes wrong for them and like you put it....a shoulder for them to cry on.

i fear my friend WE are wasting our breath.
 Mr.Doc

Joined: 10/17/2007
Msg: 186
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Posted: 1/3/2008 11:57:03 AM
I am sorry you are having this problem, in your profile you seem to be a very nice person. but then if you look at a lot of these profiles they all almost say the same things. I meet a lady on here that said all the right things and she beautiful, after the second date she climb right up in my lap and I thought I was in second heaven. On the third date she thought she was my boss, and I owed her. What ever happen to that person was beyond me. I think if people would learn to deal with the past and then get on with life, we would be a lot happier. This game is on both sides of the street, both sex's play these games.
If you ever come to west cost of Fl say hey

Bill
 dreamer diane

Joined: 11/6/2007
Msg: 187
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Posted: 1/3/2008 5:29:00 PM
Oh boy! Sounds like I hit a raw nerve with you, Jemue. Wasn't there a whale named Jemue? No, it was Shamu! Oops, sorry. lol
 dreamer diane

Joined: 11/6/2007
Msg: 188
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Posted: 1/3/2008 5:37:36 PM
I'm so glad that you know all the men I've met! Mind if I call you to ask about future dates? You seem to know everything (which incidently does not go well with true and honest) Got it? Good.
 Jerobu

Joined: 12/29/2007
Msg: 189
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Posted: 1/3/2008 6:35:08 PM
Thankyou so much for this plain and simple explanation.Ladies you will not find a true and honest guy going "clubbing".Those venues are for party people,not serious minded folks who are looking for a serious relationship.I quit going to the bars and clubs long ago because woman nowadays are just as guilty if not more so than men at being "players".Have been played myself and decided to try this site as an alternative.Women seem to look for the bad boy type because they think they can change or domesticate someone.They seem to think they can change a guy,and when they can't they cry foul and blame the guy.All guys are not like that and I have stopped hanging out with many life long friends because of the way they treat women.For some reason a man is judged guilty because of what his friend did.Yes,you reap what you sow.
 Jerobu

Joined: 12/29/2007
Msg: 190
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Posted: 1/3/2008 6:58:48 PM
You hit the nail on the head.Some of my "friends" treat their girls apaullingly.I have a friend who had a super girl,but insisted on cheating on her every chance he got.She aked me once"why does he keep hurting me?".I replied that he was't,she was hurting herself ,dump that jerk and get some self esteem and self respect.Have another friend who cheated on his girl too.His brother was a player as well.We were talking about the brothers promiscuity one night,when the woman said"I'm so lucky that my boyfriend does't cheat on me".Tried to tell her the truth but she refused to believe it.Now they are married with a child.She made her own bed..
 lavone8

Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 191
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Posted: 1/3/2008 7:49:59 PM
Dear montana Girl,
I know the feeling,I have been ther and done that,no mater what i do can't seem to find a good man out there.They all act like they care and then break your heart. All I want is to find a man who will take me for who I am,no headgames, just be truthful.I pray all the time thinking maybe it will happen.When I like someone I only date him, not 1 to date around. When I fall in live it;s suppose to be forever ,do you know what i mean.I thought i was the only one out there having problems, guess not.
Thank you ,
lavone8
 Red_Sasha34

Joined: 10/30/2005
Msg: 192
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Posted: 1/3/2008 9:41:04 PM
Actually I have worked with them. And see how they work and how them can manipulate. If you feel that its fine that a 60 year old can legally marry a 14 year old. Good for you. I belive its pedophillia. Glad that you like to keep up with age of consent laws. Demonstrates your intrests in my opinion.

Canada is actually becoming a destination for sexual tourism. Perhaps you should look that up too. Since your attempting to demonstrate that your terribly clever.

And my profile doesn't even mention the pedophillia. Other then making a leap from a post I put on my profile that suggests that it is uncool to post pictures of childen on your profile. Don't worry, you don't have to put it on your profile.
 seattlerain11

Joined: 9/17/2007
Msg: 193
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Posted: 1/3/2008 9:49:14 PM
I changed my mind and Deleted this as to not keep a dysfunctional side-thread going.

James
 untamed one

Joined: 3/28/2007
Msg: 194
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Posted: 1/3/2008 9:55:51 PM
This thread is too guy - centric .. needs more more where have the T and A girls gone ?
 Mulva

Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 195
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Posted: 1/3/2008 10:03:10 PM
Check out the 500 Hottest People

You'll see more T&A than you can shake a stick at
 d1a2n3a4

Joined: 10/25/2005
Msg: 196
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Posted: 1/3/2008 10:17:36 PM
im one of the true and honest men, and its not easy for us. we are told that a woman wants a nice guy, but they get bored with us after awhile. i guess people are so used to being done dirty that they dont know what to do with the nice guy when they get him. dont give up hope. there are nice guys like me still out there, we are just a little more cautious due to being hurt and used. i know i wouldnt mind having the fairy tale ending myself you know the happy ever after ending, but so far it seems my fairy tale ending is one of the grimm brothers type ending. i quit looking, but if it finds me, i wont reject love, but i will take it slow and make sure that the person actually wants what they say they want instead of a little excitement because they are trying to make someone jealous or a bored house wife. i wish you the best of luck and i hope everyone here gets their happy ever after ending, even if i never get mine.
 seattlerain11

Joined: 9/17/2007
Msg: 197
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Posted: 1/3/2008 10:29:04 PM
I've found people don't always want True and Honest.

For instance, men are attracted to OTHER women... most men would have SEX with another woman given the inclination and opportunity, but when their women ask -- men know the drill... "Oh, no darling, you are the ONLY woman in the world that I notice. Why would I ever WANT another woman, I have you!"

Imagine the fur flying if a man answered, "I love you dear, but I'd screw that woman over there in a heartbeat if she'd have me and you wouldn't dump me."



James, Port Orchard, Washington, USA, Earth
 Jemue

Joined: 1/26/2005
Msg: 198
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Posted: 1/3/2008 10:49:49 PM
Oh boy! Sounds like I hit a raw nerve with you, Jemue. Wasn't there a whale named Jemue? No, it was Shamu! Oops, sorry. lol


Just pointing out the flaws in your assumptions and generalisations about "good guys" or the supposed lack there off, what you choose to believe doesn't affect me.


I'm so glad that you know all the men I've met!


Don't have to when it's a generalisation, it's nothing to do with the subject, it's the person generalising that is the source of it.


Mind if I call you to ask about future dates?


I'd suggest taking responsibility for that yourself, it tends to work better.


You seem to know everything (which incidently does not go well with true and honest) Got it? Good.


Talking about hitting nerves .......... I'd stick to the subject matter and not the person.


how many times do we have to tell these women tho, but they never listen .


You don't have to tell, just be and let others figure out what they want to see.
 7Patt

Joined: 9/12/2007
Msg: 199
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Posted: 1/5/2008 3:10:07 PM
first of all . . . . if it took you 3 years to figure out he was a "lying, cheating dog" . . . . shame on YOU.

Secondly . . . . i can't speak for the general population, but I happen to know of a few damn good men right here in Coconut Creek, Florida. Men want trust, honesty and integrity in women. Sure, we would all like to have a "beauty queen", but we know damn well it's not going to happen for 98% of us. I used to date nothing but "Cover Girls", but over the years i found them to be severly screwed up individuals. Today, as my profile states, I ask that you be "beautiful" to ME. My last girlfriend could have stood to lose a few pounds, by no means a "Barbie", BUT . . . . to me she was the most beautiful woman in the world. LOL . . . until she turned on me.

Yet women, on the other hand, STILL LIVE THE FAIRY TALE that they will find a man who is :wealthy, GQ material, honest, "real", monogomous, and will cart them off on exotic get-aways 2 or 3 times a month. GET OVER YOURSELVES ! ! ! IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Take a look at the "nice guy" right next door, instead. I can guarantee you that us nice guys, the ones who are continually over-looked, are the ones who will STILL be there when you're 10 or 15 or 40 pounds over your ideal weight. We will STILL be there when you go through your mid-life crisis, suffer your 20th nervous breakdown, find your cushy job has been eliminated due to "corporate stream-lining" and finally . . . when you figure out that you aren't 25 anymore.

STOP DEMANDING PERFECTION AND START LOOKING FOR PRACTICAL. When shopping for a vehicle do you choose looks, and "stylish" . . . or do you opt for performance, reliability, and MPG?
 soulmate08

Joined: 12/30/2007
Msg: 200
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Posted: 1/5/2008 5:00:18 PM
Well, nice guys and woman still have faults...all humans do..
Its been said , if you want to meet your potential life mate, write a list of the qualities you want in that person. Become concious of exactly it is your looking for. Then possibly refine that list/ adjust it. ,, Then stick it too your mirror, where you will see it everyday. As you look into your own mirror/reflection.
Then become the qualities you are looking for within a partner.. ie some people say they get lied too etc, but will themselves tell small white lies.. caause of whatever justification..etc. And can have 2 rules its ok for them to tell small lies but lookout if anyone else does. You will attract what you are yourself, (even if a person is in denial)
so if you donot want a liar for eg, become concious of white lies etc.. become what you want to attract.
The law of attraction works on major emotions/feelings. If you are completely negative/pessimistic you will attract those events/situations/people into your life.
If you become love you will attract love..(then what is love? another topic and not to be confused with man./woman emotions).
I personally think, after you write your list become aware of who you are. Writing a list of habits/things you will not tolerate.. accept everyone has faults, but what faults are you ready to accept as part of the package.
I can think of 1 nice guy right now ive known for years.. Hes a great friend and I was interested in him a few years back, spent time getting to know him etc,, he and his family agree he is lazy, totally unmotivated and a procrastinator. He will spend ,( this is a true eg 5 years thinking of reasons not to fix the wheelbarrow then do a 5 min job.). I am not putting him down nor speaking behind his back. this convo has been had with him/his mum etc, .. so for me? personally its a turn off because his traits would ultimately turn me into a nagger. everyone has faults.. what faults do we all have? and what are we prepared to accept in others? And just my personal opinion, if i can not have a mature/open discussion with my friend about any issue, then im not clowse enough to them to give my heart or soul.

smiles/peace
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