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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/23/2007 9:56:30 PM |
Are MEN marketable after age 30?
That is an interesting phrase. Marketable?
I don’t think that I am, because I don’t feel that I am selling myself as a product.
Although, I do realize, that the word “Marketable” is being used as a metaphor, it might also have some subconscious meaning behind it.
Indeed, I would find it difficult to put myself on the market, if I was to describe myself, as a product, but for the hell of it, I’ll give it a go.
The sales pitch:
“42 year old male, with just enough years to be well broken in, yet still plenty of years and potential left, for continued, and reliable service for many years to come. All parts are original, and in fair working condition. Although his title has changed several hands, he is easily adaptable to new environments, and conditions, yet does not carry over any residue from any of the past owners.
As is, he can be used as a comfortable resting place, or can be tuned up, super charged, and raced in a faster paced environment. However, we would discourage racing him against newer models, and any such attempts would void any written, or implied warrantees.” | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/23/2007 10:00:15 PM | When I first saw this thread I was going to have some fun with it. (Depends on the offers kinda stuff). But I can tell this thread is far too serious to tolerate any of my smart@ss humor so I will refrain.
The next thought was that I am not marketable, nor for sale or trade. I have gotten some really weird offers though. Once in Las Vegas........... well that's another story.
In my opinion, I have far more to bring to a relationship than I did when I was 30. Thinking back, I have to say that I was far more selfish in many ways. I didn't know what I wanted as well, didn't know what I enjoyed as well either. I really am not interested in dating or considering a relationship with a lady under 40, I don't have time or patience for the games and drama a lot of them haven't outgrown. I'm only stating my opinion, not categorizing all women.
I appreciate things now that at 30 I was ignorant of. I have learned a lot about myself and what I want in life. I also recognize the needs of the person I'm with more easily.
I guess to put it bluntly, I respect those smile lines and scars of experience that 30'ish people don't have.
Besides, 40 plus people are usually less selfish and/or ignorant in private.. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/23/2007 10:20:59 PM | Ok. I saw this thread... "Are women marketable after age 30?" ... and it made me want to slap someone at first. Really.
I think the real issue here is that the OP read a posting that at first caused her to be offended because it broadly painted her into a group of negative characteristics. And honestly who wouldn't be offended at the idea that her age has somehow diminished her as a person.
Are MEN marketable after age 30?? How about 40?
Actually OP, a majority of men become more marketable after 30 as we are more likely to have secured the things that make men attractive (marketable) to women. And it's far more likely for a woman to be willing to consider a much older man than it is for a man to consider a moderately older woman. May not be fair, but it's true.
I'm not looking for Mr. Perfect, because there's no such thing -- but I am looking for a man close to my age, who is healthy, like I am, takes care of themselves, like I take care of myself, has brains, is open to a solid relationship
Funny thing, I heard something similar not long ago from a woman after I had laid my feelings on the table. She told me she was looking for someone close to her age, never married, no kids. I met all the criteria and still was rejected. Oh well, what can you do? Funny thing is she married a divorcee seventeen years her senior. No kids though. I guess she figured one out of three was a reasonable compromise.
OP, just remember it would be very easy for me to be as offended by your statement about men over 35, as you would be offended by the word "marketable" in regards to women over 30. But why get offended? Really what good is it going to do? What ever your situation, it is what it is. Your only concern should be to make it the best situation it can be.
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/23/2007 11:16:18 PM | I'll be celebrating the 18th Anniversary of my 35th Birthday in a couple months . .
and _Still_ consider myself a 'Good Catch' . .
..{but you'll have to do some research to find out why ..}.. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/23/2007 11:34:47 PM | Well I think I am anyway.
I'm 47, but I would not be going after a 33 year old.
Being realistic, my marketabilty diminishes with every year below 40 my prospective mate is! lol
I might not be God's gift to women, but I'm not a disaster. I know will make a good partner to the right woman. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/23/2007 11:53:40 PM | I've got a 19 year old beauty pursuing me at work and I won't take her up on the offer because she's too young. I've also had a 16 year old after me when I was 38 (her mother and father were encouraging it too as they wanted us to run a newspaper shop together!) - I didn't get involved there either. You'd think they'd be stupid girls wouldn't you but they're not - they like me because they feel they can talk to me. The 19 year old wants to get married. I find it extremely embarrassing as well as a bit flattering.
Women between 35 and 45 - I'm 47 - show very little interest in me. The women I do get in this age group are usually after 'friends with benefits' or want me to become one of their multiple lovers; I also get married women looking for flings. I don't do any of this stuff. 'The good ones are already married' is the cliche that fits. I sometimes get women of this age group - the group I feel most comfortable with - doing game playing with me eg saying yes to dating when they've already got a boyfriend or no to dating and telling me they've got a boyfriend they don't have and then spreading the news around to be careful as Solarpanel is on the lookout and making me look like an idiot (or trying to, I don't blush easily at my age). I daresay when I reach my next decade I'll have a new experience to contend with (where were all the 19 year olds when I was 19, for goodness sake?).
I get quite a few ladies from the US emailing (I'm not swimming the Atlantic!) and I've had women in their 60s get crushes on me - I left a walking group I was in because a women in her late 60s would ball her eyes out in front of everybody over me. Most of the women who add me to their favourites are older - I think they want a toyboy.
I'll sometimes think I'm unmarketable, when there's been a long dry spell, but then you get someone interested but they're not fitting with what you're looking for. Tis life. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 12:44:50 AM | Are you f***ing kidding me? I understand the annoyance you felt over the thread about women over 30 (didn't read it), but honestly, can you imagine a world in which there were only men under 30? OMG. IMO, lots of men peak in their 40s--and the ones who peak in their 20s.... that's just sad. Give me a virile, confident 40-something over a pretty 20-something any day: there's really NO comparison, including (blush blush) in the bedroom.
I went out with a 31 year old the other night--and he was still in that "proving himself" place. I find that many men in their 20s and 30s do suffer from this proving themselves thing...and it's not very attractive, IMO. I really really prefer men who are past it. So, I personally love the 40s..... | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 8:07:29 AM | Hey Sparky, The question itself shows the superficial shallowness of the world we live in. Everyone is "marketable" at any age if they ply thier wares in the right place. I've noticed what importance is placed on "age" and not wisdom,character or honor to decide if someone is suitable or even worthy of a reply.
As you gain wisdom in life you will learn that age is just a number after age 26 or so and has little to do with the quality of the person or thier character. What makes men or women "marketable"by today's standards is based more on the misconceptions that if she or he has all the trappings of a "good catch" then they must be. In reality not all that glitters is gold and age is only one layer on the surface we must peel back to reveal what is truly inside the person we are attracted to.
If you seek a LTR you may find yourself needing to reach beyond the limits you've set. Your restrictions limit you as well and forget about age and start looking at the individual and what lies within...................................  | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 8:11:39 AM |
lots of men peak in their 40s--and the ones who peak in their 20s.... that's just sad. Give me a virile, confident 40-something over a pretty 20-something any day: there's really NO comparison, including (blush blush) in the bedroom.
Marketing 101: testimonials. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 8:46:20 AM | Op, I think what you're talking about is far more prevalent with internet dating than it is in real life. I get approached by men on here who would never assume they'd have a chance with me in real life. (And no, I KNOW I'm not all that.) Men who are a decade, or two or more older...who have their age filters set to exclude women older than they are...whose biggest physical exertion is pulling their fat a**es off the sofa to take their fiber for the day. And I agree 46 is way too old for you.
Once upon a time, in a land far, far away, men had the "right" to choose that young, unblemished bride. Afterall, she needed a man to take care of her. And he had been taught that his sole worth was in his ability to provide for a woman and her children. Without even reading one reply on this thread, I bet lots of men are going to say something along those lines....I'm responsible....or something inferring their superior ability to provide compared with younger men.
Of course, that isn't the case anymore, and while men in the "real world" seem to realize this, internet dating seems to attract more than the usual number of men (and women seem to be into it now too) who think that fairy tale is still real. Most of us are as able to provide as they are. And it makes sense for us to want a man closer to us in age. There are still younger women who want an older "established" man. But she often wants him for the same reason women in that land far, far away did. She has a few kids already, no means to provide a decent living for them, etc. You'll notice a LOT of men on here in their 40s and 50s who have a very young child they're caring for as well. These are the ones who "snared" that younger woman who realized after a few years that she'd married her dad. She moved onto someone closer to her own age. He now has a little child to raise.
And yes, in answer to your question....men are marketable after age 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, etc. They just need to rethink the demographic they are attempting to attract. What they do online with their marketing attempts makes no more sense than attempting to market Bibles in a Muslim Mosque. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 8:58:58 AM | I met a man ~ with a colorful past ~ he'd married in to the mafiaosia ~ and bearly got out alive ~ once in ~ you normally don't get out ~ so he was no ordinary guy.
He was selling automobiles ~ and ~ he always refered to the market ~ and packages!
It annoyed me at first ~ but I gain some understanding in time. ~
Thats exactly what we do ~ we buy or don't buy the package. ~
Nice personality, nice body ~ with lots of hang ups ~~ ? I'll pass
Intelligent, funny, cute ~ 6 kids under 12 ~ I'll pass
and on and on it goes ~ works the same for men.
age, looks , health, a riot to be with ~ bad teeth ~~ maybe
We are all looking for a package that we can invest time and love into
and hope for a joyious , wonderful life. ~
So, each of us might ask ourselfs ~ whats the benifets of the package that we are offering ~ and can you improve the package? How?
Just cute or just young ~ is not a very impressive package ~ it takes much more ~dar | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 9:02:28 AM | OP, virtually everyone is "marketable". Realistically finding one's available market is more than half the challenge for many. Those who fail to respond to "market forces" and continue to approach an "unavailable market" are those to be found posting in the countless whining threads that "online dating" doesn't work, or "all women" or "all men" are this, that or the other "bad" thing.
So, OP, I wouldn't expect to be "marketable" to a 33 year old. The much younger women, who are "available" to the "older man" market, are usually those who are emotionally or financially dysfunctional, and have an agenda of being "rescued".
There is, however, a "market" in which I have found it a very natural thing to connect. The "baby boomers" ushered in a whole new era of people who were married for many years, and got divorced in their 40s. So there are a lot of people "out there", in the market, looking to connect with the opposite sex. In some ways, it's even easier now, than it was in college, to make "connections", and among them, to find a significant relationship. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 9:03:35 AM | Sparky - It depends where you are.
Online, the cutoff point for men is about 32.
Beyond that, their chances of finding anyone even CLOSE to what they want (outside of Russia....) is basically nil.
Because most women online do the exact same thing most men do online, which is looking for younger people.
The men who figure this out quickly are the ones who then start lying about their age.
In real life, men are marketable if they are her type.
Period.
Age is secondary. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 9:07:06 AM |
bet lots of men are {going to refer} to their superior ability to provide compared with younger men
No thanks.
They just need to rethink the demographic they are attempting to attract
I could probably build a marketing campaign for BiddieWorld.
But what's my motivation?
Holy cow, it really is some weird, sick practical joke by the Forces of the Cosmos.
Why am I reluctant to expend further energy?
Is it because I already spent so much for so little?
Perhaps it's my expectations. I've tried several venues, I approached them in good faith but they yielded very little. Like FastEddie, I could ponder what is wrong with me but why? It would only mean further effort to "fix me", I'm not sure it can be done, and if it could, I'm not sure it would matter.
In fact, I'm fairly sure it wouldn't matter much.
It's a systemic problem.
I don't fully understand it but it's partly demographics.
When, exactly, did I enter BiddieWorld?
And why?
That's the real mystery. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 9:20:52 AM |
In some ways, it's even easier now, than it was in college, to make "connections", and among them, to find a significant relationship
Perhaps it's easier but is it desirable?
I could be as cliincally calculating as you, I could "respond to market forces" but do I want to?
I don't think so. Free markets work best at producing immediate, short-term results in low-capital markets. Cheap consumer goods. Aye, that's what's wrong with it, the current housing market is a good example of free markets gone wrong. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 9:46:15 AM | *SIGH*
So many people missed the point of this thread.
Oh well. At least some of you know how us 30+ ladies feel... and how it made some of us feel to see a POPULAR thread called "Are women over 30 still marketable" ... *shrug* | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 10:16:07 AM | I used to have a best-before date stamped on my forehead. Thanks to the magic of modern science I got some soap and now I'm good to go again. It's like what Safeway does.
Am I the only one who finds this whole thread just a touch hypocritical ? I mean, if it was so offensive to the OP to see this thread with women as the topic isn't this just just essentially evidence of a bitter person ? You know, that whole "Two wrongs don't make a right " thing.
Anyway, to answer the question, yeah, sure, we're marketable. So are women. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean exactly but yeah, whatever, we're all marketable I guess. Ninety year old people still manage to find new love so thirty doesn't seem like it should be all that challenging by comparison. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 10:21:48 AM | Oh well. At least some of you know how us 30+ ladies feel... and how it made some of us feel to see a POPULAR thread called "Are women over 30 still marketable" ... *shrug*
I think one thing you have to remember is the tabloid effect that seems to prevalent throughout these forums. The more polarizing, or controversial the topic, the more likely it is that people will have to give their 2 cents. It seems that the posts that are truly useful discussions are generally short lived.
Besides OP, I've seen your picture, I've read your profile, and I've read your posts, and I have a hard time believing that you are, have been, or ever will be "unmarketable" at any age. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 10:35:10 AM | | We are marketable,it is just a niche market,we have to find women who want someone our age and with similar interests,because at my age I am not going to make drastic changes for anyone. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 10:37:58 AM |
Online, the cutoff point for men is about 32.
Beyond that, their chances of finding anyone even CLOSE to what they want (outside of Russia....) is basically nil.
Because most women online do the exact same thing most men do online, which is looking for younger people.
The men who figure this out quickly are the ones who then start lying about their age.
That's ridiculous. Within the first 2 months on POF, I met 3 women face to face from here in real life, all of whom are in the same "stage of life" as I am. I am now 24/7 with a woman I met from POF, and first contacted within the first week of joining POF.
If my experience here were unique, then it wouldn't mean anything, but it's not. Of course, there are those, of both sexes, who are "undateable", but for those who are, most people, with a good attitude, don't have that much trouble "connecting" with someone on POF. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 10:42:41 AM |
Besides OP, I've seen your picture, I've read your profile, and I've read your posts, and I have a hard time believing that you are, have been, or ever will be "unmarketable" at any age.
Wow, Spark, even after all the semi-negative feedback, I'd say this one response kind of made it worth it.
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/24/2007 10:56:38 AM |
Very kind and very sweet... made my WHOLE day, and gave me the warm fuzzies to boot! Muah!
MERRY CHRISTMAS, eh!!
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