| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 11:03:48 AM | Under current laws neither gender is 'marketable' as this word implies buying--so we would then be discussing slavery or prostitution (rented love by any other name...)
I understand your reaction to the first thread, Sparkie, but honestly, after a while one sees enough vapid threads to start ignoring them.
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 11:07:15 AM | If I thought I wasnt marketable . . I wouldn't have said all those complimentary things in my Profile . . !! I'm no Tommy Cruise . . but I believe that I meet the RDA of a majority of qualifications that a 'Marketable' Lady is looking for . . !!!
Have a Reely Sooper X-mas . . 'eh . . !!? | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 1:48:03 PM |
Online, the cutoff point for men is about 32. Beyond that, their chances of finding anyone even CLOSE to what they want (outside of Russia....) is basically nil.
Wolfie, you're 42, you mean to tell me that you have nit chance? When I was dating I could pull three dates a week. Usually one repeat on Saturday, and two dates during the week. Fridays, exclusive with my biker bodies so no dates. So is nil the case with others over forty? | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 2:45:24 PM | | Any who infers that anyone at or over a certain age is less anything is absurd, women or men. Youth and age both have advantages and disadvantages it's more an individual's attitude about enjoying and living fully in whatever stage of life they're in at the present. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 3:11:16 PM |
So is nil the case with others over forty?
I don't work at it anymore. If I tried, I could do one date per week. I set a new record last month, I had three scheduled in one weekend. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 3:18:00 PM | "I set a new record last month, I had three scheduled in one weekend."
Now that's my kind of man! I had 2 last weekend... and I have 3 next weekend...
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 3:20:27 PM | yes, but *my* old record was zero!
Yeah, it so strange having three dates in one weekend. For a brief moment I thought "I'm finally a PLAYER!"
but then I passed by a mirror and reality set in. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 3:29:07 PM | Once again, I find myself agreeing with Melo (msg 63).
Of course men and women are both marketable after 30 or 40 or any age. We don't need focus groups or an avalanche of opinions to point out that simple truth. What's the alternative, despondent surrender? Not for me thanks.
If one avoids some of the mentioned stereotypes associated with this age range or that age range, one may be pleasantly surprised to find that not everyone over 30 has a been there done that attitude. Some of us, in fact, may even have a never been there, never done that, and eager to try attitude. Perhaps the marketability becomes more focused as you get older, but there are certainly plenty of opportunities for anyone of any age in my opinion. To suggest otherwise is absurd.
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 3:39:29 PM |
but then I passed by a mirror and reality set in.
Yeah, reality should set in that a, some women are going to find you attractive, b, if you have the right attitude and approach that can be every weekend, c, you can find that one chic you always wanted.
So look at the mirror again. It's you. You've done it once you can do it again and again.
You stud. Go get them.
Have a good time. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 4:00:03 PM |
some women are going to find you attractive
Sure, I'm an excellent "male provider" to many women, especially my age. Five women from last week's speed dating responded to me. But four of them were... well... about money & security and no sexual spark. It's nice that I can re-constitute my marriage in a flash but it's not what I want. But it seems to be the great majority of women.
Damn, I need to do something different but I'm not sure what.
I'm thinking more and more about 30-year-old women but that's a new set of strange, creepy issues and pitfalls. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 4:15:21 PM |
Damn, I need to do something different but I'm not sure what.
Did you buy them dinner? Bring flowers? Shower them with attention and told them how beautiful they were? Then they just didn't want to have sex?
Women subconsciously are looking for a provider and protector, to whom they withhold sex until they feel completely secure, or that guy who would ravage them and make them fall in love, with whom they have sex with fairly quickly. They can be the same person. But if you start as the first one. It is hard to move to the second one. If you start as the last one, meaning the lover, it is easy to move to the other two. Which one would you rather be? What are you doing to portray one or the other? | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 4:17:55 PM | 46 is TOO OLD? Well take anyone over 35 and shoot then lady.I happen too be 54,i work out every evening,in summers i run 5 and 10k every day.I have a 142 IQ..which means at 54 chances are i am in better shape than you,smarter than you and know what life is and how too enjoy it. As for why i am single?Simple,only women i have found are women your age who let themselves go,want someone too look after then and their 3 kids.I am still capable of having children,i can still walk AND chew gum at the same time.Dont bury men over 35 laies..someday you will be looking for one. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 4:27:29 PM | Are MEN marketable after age 30? ~ sparkinthedark > I wouldn't read articles that describe human beings as marketable. > A packet of soap powder, a tin of biscuits, a car, a house - these things are marketable. But a human being? That's cold, in my opinion. > I wouldn't fly over anyone, let alone go out with her, if she viewed herself or another person as marketable. > We have reached an all-time low the way we talk about people. And I, for one, am becoming scunnered with it, as we say back home in Scotland.
> Peter. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 4:32:29 PM | BOTH threads are somewhat insulting, what with the implication that people are commodities. I suppose people of ANY age are "marketable" to others in that age range who are looking... but I think it comes down more to health, having your life under control,and ATTITUDE more than the numbers. I've seen guys under 25 who are so burned out and jaded that it almost brought me to tears, and guys over 80 who still looked at each new day as a precious gift to be savored and shared with others... It's not AGE that determines "marketability", it's ATTITUDE. Wishing you all a merry holiday. May you be gifted with whatever your Higher Power deems is in your best interest. Cindy O | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 4:33:06 PM | You know it is funny how some people when you first see them ,they seem so pretty.Then as they talk and you find out more about them, they either become much more attractive or they really start to turn you off. you wonder what the hell you even liked about them. Some should stop while they are ahead and posts like this do no one any good. Whether they bash men or women at any age. We are all here together , in the same boat for the same reasons. No one is any better a than anyone else for sure. We all made and still make mistakes. ease up it's the holidays.... | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 4:39:22 PM |
We have reached an all-time low the way we talk about people. And I, for one, am becoming scunnered with it, as we say back home in Scotland.
My good fellow. As low as we have become. In this day an age you have to market, everything. Ideas have to be marketed, put in the hands of the right people, moved through key indicators and then collect feedback as to how that idea is working. It is the battleground of the future. Even more powerful that products, because once the idea is established the products will follow. Now enter the realm of you, you are a man, or a woman, but you are a summation of ideas, feeling, experiences, baggage, traditions, emotions. YOU ARE as someone here said earlier a PACKAGE. If you don't like it, well too bad, you can ignore it but you just ARE. What you do with that will define not only you, but the people you will associate with, the money you will make in your life, how happy you will be, and also with whom you will pair bond. UNDERSTAND it and you will achieve your own success or happiness. DON'T understand it, and you will always be miserable because people are to you hypocrites that don't accept you for what you are. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 4:49:33 PM | Women subconsciously are looking for a provider and protector
That's my point.
I don't want to be that again. It was too much work and responsibility.
Sure, I could probably boff a bunch of them, that's how I started out, I had sex with the first two immediately. But it turned into "provider and protector and permanent".
That might happen with the young ones. That might be okay, though. If she abandoned me for a younger dude after a few years that might be okay. Then I just cycle through a few until I croaked.
You just know the old ones will have death-grip. Heck, I've still got clawmarks from my ex-wife. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 5:18:43 PM | Or..... maybe we are the ones doing the marketing...............
25-35 still have a ways to go to get to the top if they dont fall first.
36-40 Right on the verge of making it there
40-60 The ones who made it are enjoying it
61- up Greeting people at walmart cause the young women took everything.... just kidding but I did laugh. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 5:56:02 PM |
I Am sorry OP.. but me thinks you might need to readjust your attitude a bit. You are pushing the 40 mark also. It will come up and bite you in the butt sooner than you think..
33 is not pushing 40. She's 7 years away from 40. So, is 23 pushing 30? That would mean my 11 year old is two years away from pushing the 20 year mark. doG damn! I'm almost old enough to be a grandma!  | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 6:20:19 PM | Actually, I prefer older men. My best friend is 26 and is married to a man that is 48 - only 3 months younger than my mother!!!
My youngest son's father is 35 years old, my oldest son's father is 28. Between the two, I had a much closer relationship to the older man.
It could be that I find older men more attractive / desirable because: 1. Their partying days have ended. 2. They are not as shallow as (some) men my age. 3. They usually have more financial stability and aren't looking for a sugar mama. 4. Typically, they have children and are used to the idea that kids come first.
But...that's just my two cents.
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 6:22:26 PM | OMG..you mean all i have too look forward too is standing at the door too walmart?..Second thought ..a lot of women shop at walmart and if i aint dead then i'm good too go!! | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 7:24:38 PM | Hey check out above ^ |
Well we also have Viagra! We can now last longer and spend hours upright Mind you after taking it we may never see or hear again, but hey what a sacrifice we make.
Dunno about dates, gosh darn it I have to admit: I have not had one single date in the last 9 months I have applied twice now for extreme makeover and have been turned down
See ya all at Wall Mart!
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30? Posted: 12/24/2007 7:33:38 PM | Your raven black hair and sunny disposition notwithstanding, your're not my type. Frankly, I'm looking for a woman who can make my heart soar. That is a woman doesn't look to start an argument, doesn't need to be told she is beautiful just because she read something that implied that she's not all that, and can appreciate a compliment without getting suspicious that I'm trying to get my leg over. I would imagine that a woman with such a healthy level of self-esteem would not be worried about externals, such as my height or the number of years on my passport. She would be more interested in how many years we might have together, if we "gel", if we get on together, how many bridges that cross the Seine in Paris that we can walk hand-in-hand across, in a single day, if we can remember to say "I Love You" with feeling and with love, every day, for the rest of our lives. So I don't really care about being "marketable" to lots of women. I already know that. I just want to know if I am marketable to the woman I want to be with. Let other men date the other women. I'm not bothered about them at all.
Ok. I saw this thread... "Are women marketable after age 30?" ... and it made me want to slap someone at first. Really. Let me quote from the OP's question:
My roommate and I had this disscusion the other night and I would like opinions on this. He says that after 30 women are no longer "marketable'? I tend to dissagree. As I venture farther into my 30's I am finding out who I am as a person. I know what I want and where I want to go. A girl or woman in her 20's is still learning that. There is all the "drama" associtated with the 20's genre. Not saying that women in their 30's don't have drama but it isn't as prominent in most cases. Please any feed back would be great. It is obvious from this post, that the OP of the thread thought women over 30 were FAR MORE marketable than women under 30, and you have a problem with this?
Are MEN marketable after age 30?? How about 40? I had a man on another site, chasing me, begging me to go out with him... I'm 33, he was 46. For me, that was TOO OLD. You ought to realise that there is always going to be someone who is attracted to you, so the question of "Are women marketable after age 30?" is really "Are women marketable after age 30 to men they are interested in?" So the reverse question is "Are men marketable after age 30 to women they are interested in?" You just said they're TOO OLD. Pot, meet kettle.
I'm not looking for Mr. Perfect, because there's no such thing -- but I am looking for a man close to my age, who is healthy, like I am, takes care of themselves, like I take care of myself, has brains, is open to a solid relationship FYI, to 100% of women, that IS Mr Perfect. To quote a famous film, "As Good As It Gets", when Carol the waitress, played by Helen Hunt, who was 36 at the time, is being asked out by a man who has OCD and cannot walk on the cracks in the pavement, and is played by Jack Nicholson, was was 60 at the time, making him 24 years older than her, she replies:
Carol Connelly: Why can't I have a normal boyfriend? Just a regular boyfriend, one that doesn't go nuts on me! Beverly Connelly (Her mother): Everybody wants that, dear. It doesn't exist. I have yet to meet the person who thought that the character could do better, or that her mother wasn't right.
... and most the men I meet over 35, are anything but that. Odd. When I go to the gym, most of the guys I see are well over 30 and in great shape. Only a few are in their 20s and they are constantly admiring themselves in the mirror.
In fact most of them, just want a FWB -- have kids and don't want anymore, are divorced and don't even want to hear the 'M' word anymore. They present themselves in a "been there, done that" light -- so, is that attractive to you ladies? It isn't to me... so, I'd like to hear what ya'll have to say... cut loose!! I know loads of men over 35 who want to get married again. I just don't any who know any women who want make a lifetime commitment to love and cherish their man.
So many people missed the point of this thread.
Oh well. At least some of you know how us 30+ ladies feel... and how it made some of us feel to see a POPULAR thread called "Are women over 30 still marketable" ... *shrug* Well, if you made it clear that you felt insulted, and all you wanted was someone to make you feel better, then we would have called for this thread to be deleted. Forums are for asking questions and posting answers. They are not for stroking your ego, and boosting your self-esteem.
IMHO, women over 40 are MORE marketable than women over 30, and some women over 50 are WAY MORE marketable than the women over 40. It seems that many women only mature as they get older, and stop taking offence at everything.
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