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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/30/2007 4:20:36 PM | I made this thread, because of the "Are women over 30 marketable" thread that someone started. Maybe now you know how we feel, when someone talks about us like we're a product on the shelf of a local super market.
Until one gets to know someone in particular and the conversation begins, we are ALL sort of like a product on the shelf of a local super market. Dating boards, and singles venues, are an "open market".
There is a lid for virtually every pot, but the thing about online dating is to adjust to one's "available market". Your wish list is irrelevant, if no one matching it is interested in what you have to offer. On the other hand, those who are insecure, and value themselves too little, may well "offer" below their "market value".
We've all seen the ubiquitous "nice guy" or "nice girl" threads, where someone overvalues a quality that isn't worth much "to the market" he/she is pursuing, unless he/she is also physically attractive to the ones he/she is approaching. It doesn't mean anything, that you think some quality of yours is "wonderful", unless you find someone of the opposite sex who values that quality as highly as you do. Finding your "natural market" is half the battle in adjusting to the reality of online dating.
Are men over 30 marketable? Of course, to women who are interested in what they have to offer, and vice versa. It's not "personal", during the initial selection process. It's based on "buyers and sellers", who find each other, and agree to the "deal". | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 12/30/2007 6:16:45 PM | men over 30 marketable
well the way social trends are going - not any longer
then again women over 30 marketable - no not them either
I guess we are headed to a world like
"Logans Run" | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 3/8/2008 3:07:05 AM | Hahaha .... Men aren't marketable UNTIL they are WAY PAST 30 or even 40..!! ....The world knows that females "mature" years ahead of men....That's WHY there are SO MANY separated, single and divorced females in the 30-45 age group..!!!...They FALL IN-LUST in their late teens or 20's or so, when their hormones are having a party, and it isn't long until the maturing females discovers that she's married to a "little boy"... ......Just look at all the female's listings......They ALL WANT maturity, honesty, commitment, a "soulmate" (from males who don't have a CLUE what one is!), caring, supportive, no baggage, he MUST love HER DOG, HER kids, HER friends, and FIT-IN with HER "wonderful life" - (coz she ain't movin' !), and, because "all my friends tell me how I don't look my age", she wants him to be younger than her (coz this will impress her friends and boost her over-inflated ego!).
So... he's got to be young but have "mature" wisdom, (that MOST under 40's guys SIMPLY DON'T HAVE!) - Tom Cruise looks, Jesus' caring and supportive nature, Bill Gates' money, live in her locality and so on... OTHERWISE they are quite happy to stay on here FOR YEARS and YEARS, not replying to all commers..!
GET REAL GIRLS..!!! - FORGET about ages and EGOS for a change this time - go-out and chose JUST A BLOODY NICE STABLE GUY, and live a happy, successful and STABLE lifestyle...! | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 3/8/2008 3:19:06 AM | Why would any man or woman *want* to be "marketable"?
Are men/women over 30 loveable? Definitely!
Are there women/men who can relate to men/women over the age of 30? For sure...
I think it's terribly sad if anyone thinks of themselves in terms of "marketable". You are not a product, an accessory, a lifestyle choice -- you're a human being and provided you are capable of relating to and adoring another there is no reason why you shouldn't find someone who can relate to and adore you.
I think that the best of humans only improve with age. Because they want to... | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 3/8/2008 12:46:40 PM |
... So... he's got to be young but have "mature" wisdom, (that MOST under 40's guys SIMPLY DON'T HAVE!) - Tom Cruise looks, Jesus' caring and supportive nature, Bill Gates' money, live in her locality and so on... OTHERWISE they are quite happy to stay on here FOR YEARS and YEARS, not replying to all commers..!
GET REAL GIRLS..!!! - FORGET about ages and EGOS for a change this time - go-out and chose JUST A BLOODY NICE STABLE GUY, and live a happy, successful and STABLE lifestyle...!
Hey "spiritual guy"... drinks are on me, man!
It's hard to hold back such opinions when one writes dozens of nice messages and gets only an occasional reply (usually quite an abrupt one). I guess there'll be alot of lonely people growing old in North America. And with the coming energy shortages (what's oil at again...another record high?...), being alone will be less safe and less feasible.
Oh well, it's a free market on social interactions. We'll see how it all turns out... | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 3/8/2008 3:13:18 PM | Angelfaceblonde says >> "Myself give me 40 plus toyboys anyday if only i was single"
Well Angelface, if you are not single - WHY the hell are you here for? | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 3/8/2008 8:42:12 PM | According to my calculations, I was more marketable up to 40! Then as the years pass,
and age sets in, you tend to lose sight of reality! The older you get, the harder it is to find what you really want! In some cases I'd say your more likely to just settle, and be happy with what you can find! I was married at 21. Divorced at 25. And im 55 now and single. That should tell you a lot about the age of " marketable"!!!!
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 4/5/2008 12:17:13 AM | Keeping yourself fit and attractive means you are always marketable....sadly with the divorce rate being what it is everyone is very marketable after age 30 because many divorcees are lonely and looking for mate # 2 (or 3) | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 4/5/2008 1:54:42 AM | I'd say it's the same as women - 9 times out of 10 the age isn't the thing stopping you finding someone, it's being overweight, unattractive, unfashionably dressed, whatever. Age only exacerbates these issues... being a tubby dude at the moment, I have too much experience of this. Thankfully I also have the means to fix it - hooray for cross trainers  | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 4/5/2008 9:26:19 AM | > (OP) I am looking for a man close to my age ... I'm 33 ... Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Ya gotta just love female "logic" sometimes...
What Msg #169 said.
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 4/5/2008 10:18:43 AM | | This thread is hilarious. The reason that guy turned you off is because he was begging you to go out with him, not because he was 46. Neediness is a huge turn-off. | |
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 4/5/2008 1:11:13 PM | > Neediness is a huge turn-off.
While simultaneously being a requirement.
Continuing with the theme of female "logic", only a woman (Patti Rothberg in this case) could have written:
the reason i want you so much
is cuz i know you're no good for me
so together we're perfect dontcha see?...
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Joined: 3/16/2008
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 4/11/2008 12:11:18 PM |
Jemue on 12/23/2007 6  41 PM I remember seeing a post a while ago about NYC girl that was demanding a $ 500K/year guy and how a financier explained to her the differences between men and women with age, wish I could find that link now.
Here is what you are looking for Jemue ....
Enjoy
-Danster
this was the text from a girl seeking advice
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What am I doing wrong?
Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful (spectacularly
beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy. I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all.
Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200
- 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?
Here are my questions specifically:
- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms
-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my feelings
-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?
- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story there?
- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?
- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY
Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.
some guy replied to that woman on craig's list. here was the reply:
I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I see it.
Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a cr@ppy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful!
So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!
So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.
Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful"
as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.
By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.
With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way.
Classic "pump and dump." I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.
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| Are MEN marketable after age 30?
Posted: 4/28/2008 6:49:17 PM | | like a fine wine!,,,, but really i don't think it's a question of age (although this thread well is :P) i think it depends upon the person or persons really!, you can be twat at 19 or at 30 + or you could be incrediable at 19 or at 30+ . There are far more things to take into account then then digits...i think some we're mentioned a few messeges back ! :P | |
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