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 eliza-jane
Joined: 11/30/2007
Msg: 176
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I tolerate nonsmokers, but generally if I , a smoker at that time, out of discernment,will always chose a smoker as a partner: Contraception is easier as smokers have to do it outside and the law will check.
 SuzyCC
Joined: 9/5/2007
Msg: 177
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Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/25/2007 10:29:22 PM
Well well well....nothing like the truly outrageous post to get things hopping on a day when most people have better things to do...what, you guys aren't making enough money from all of us hanging around here looking for love or even just plain old lust.....pick on women and smokers...after all, they are fair game.

I just love this....every guy wants to get laid as often as possible and by as many women as possible cause that's "manly" but any woman who dares to think the same way is "promiscuous". Well excuse me...this is my body and if I want my body to experience as many men as possible, it's my business and no one elses. Further, no one has the right to call me names because I happen to truly love sex but let's face it, you can't tell the ability by just looking at the packaging.....you know that old saw, "you don't buy a car without a test drive". There are a lot of guys out there whose ability may satisfy some women but not me. I have to shop around.

Oh yeah....btw, I smoke..I have smoked for 35 years. But right now I am a target as my behaviour is socially unacceptable. Feature how many threads there are on here about dating smokers.

So there you have it....a great thread for Christmas Day traffic...7 pages and counting in less than 24 hours..is this a new record??

One more thing...I am not impressed that someone has access to this sort of information and that they are using it to start such a tasteless, rude and insensitive thread...where are the mods when we need them????
 David Lewis
Joined: 11/18/2007
Msg: 178
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Posted: 12/25/2007 10:49:40 PM

SuzyCC wrote: I just love this....every guy wants to get laid as
often as possible and by as many women as possible...

Instead of telling us what every guy wants, I'd feel more
comfortable if you let individual guys speak for themselves.
 SuzyCC
Joined: 9/5/2007
Msg: 179
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Posted: 12/25/2007 11:21:16 PM

Instead of telling us what every guy wants, I'd feel more
comfortable if you let individual guys speak for themselves


Pardon me but I was merely making the same broad generalisations that OP did...I would love to have each man I meet let me know his inner thoughts on everything under the sun but I must say, many men I have met seem to be strangely shy about exposing their inner feelings. I would be more than happy to discuss things with you personally if you like.
 Dug01
Joined: 1/3/2007
Msg: 180
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 1:17:22 AM
Interesting topic and I am not surprised at the female response even though it is toned down some due to the identity of the OP I would suspect.

Smoking is an addiction, same category as alcoholism, heroin addict, etc., with the exception it is a legal addiction sanctioned primarily due to the large tobacco lobby in my opinion. By the way, I smoke and at least in my somewhat limited experience (I cannot remember the numbers...) the most promiscuous women I have had either the pleasure or displeasure of getting to know ( Y) have by far been smokers. This said, I tend to think the subject rings true. Disclaimer: This isn't to say that any or all of those who have voiced displeasure with this topic are anything at all or that I even care what they are.

What I find so annoying is that so many 'doth protest so much,' though again I am not really surprised having read the forum for some time now and having first hand experience of the wrath of those who would silence so many. This latter part I find troubling... What does it matter if numbers point toward some negative (at least it is obviously negative for many in the thread) related behavior? There is plenty of room in the numbers for all who have voiced their displeasure with this topic to fall through the cracks and not fit the bill.

So many buttons to avoid pushing in the pc world that so many would have us conform to... How can problems be solved or people be made aware of the realities of the world we live in if we seek to silence the opposition? Isn't it through discussion that problems are solved and society grows?

My hat off to you Markus, don't be disheartened by the negativity, you can never please all and what is most important in life is that one is true to oneself and speaks honestly to others.

Regards,
Dug01
 lexxielyn
Joined: 1/11/2007
Msg: 181
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 1:20:00 AM
hey, i don't know if its true but somebody should let me know decisively cause i'll start a smoking habit if it means i'll get laid more often.
 forums1
Joined: 5/14/2007
Msg: 182
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 2:24:24 AM
38% of single women smoke with an average age of 30
48% of married women on the site smoke with an average age of 34
58% of women who selected "living together" smoke with an average age of 28
34% of divorced women on the site smoke with an average age of 45
44% of seperated women on the site smoke with an average age of 40

In the general population in the US only 24% of adults are smokers.

Looks like women who smoke are more likely to cheat


I don't see any correlation between those two, the Admin/OP is making a gross generalization that all those women on here "cheat" just because they are on this site (and who knows why their relationship ended - or not for the married ones, while I'm sure theres some looking for Intimate Encounter, perhaps some have "open" relationships, and perhaps some of that percentage are just here for the forums?).

I also find it interesting that the admin of a *Canadian* site would base this on the statistic that "in the US only 24% of adults are smokers"... what is the percentage in Canada?? And were the profiles used limited to female profiles in the US? Of the percentage of "24% of adults", what percentage of those is female vs. male?

Now, what we maybe *could* say, perhaps a valid statement, is that a higher than average number of female smokers are on this site... and I could make my own "generalizations" based on the fact that smoking in the past 10+ years has become more "persecuted" against, no smoking in public buildings, no smoking in restaurants/bars (in my state anyways)... so perhaps the internet is an 'easier' venue where one can smoke while being online from home?
 butt_uglee
Joined: 11/14/2007
Msg: 183
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 3:33:18 AM
When will there be a graphic picture on cigarette packages warning that smoking makes you promiscuous? And why is this just geared towards women? Men aren't capable of sleeping around?

Nah, I don't buy it. Old wive's tales are 'well known' but it doesn't make them true.
 dreadstalker
Joined: 12/15/2007
Msg: 184
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 5:20:44 AM
Well markus. This is just another reason to initiate a mail setting block against non-smokers
 clambroth
Joined: 10/27/2007
Msg: 185
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 5:45:48 AM
Ah yes, the magic of statistical distortion. In the general population of the U.S. only 24 % of adults are smokers. Okay what percentage of those are women? If half of all smokers are women we're talking about 12% of the population that you are analyzing. It is likely less than that (8%, 10%?).
So, all of your categories ought to be relabeled, ie. 38 percent of the women who smoke and are single have an average age of 30. Regardless of the percentages you cite they are all a very small percentage of perhaps no more than 8%-10% the total population. You say "looks like women who smoke are more likely to cheat ***". I say women who smoke are more likely cheap.
 Vernie14
Joined: 11/4/2007
Msg: 186
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 7:54:22 AM
Ugh! After reading every post on this thread I have come to a conclusion. Those of you who object to the assumption based upon the research by the Admin would not be offended by the results if they said that non-smokers were promiscuous. The accusation of being promiscuous is the issue here. No one likes to hear that they are considered that unless they themselves are doing so in a flippant, self-deprecating style. The problem, like a few have alluded to on here, is what exactly is promiscuous? If you have had multiple partners by what age. Who is defining the term? The Pope? A prostitute? A barfly that has had 2 relationships a year for the last 25 years, therefore having sex with at least 50 people? Who gets to define it?

The term "more likely" is also hard for many of you who are offended to recognize. The assumption isn't that you are promiscuous. Only that you are more likely to be based upon a reasonable analysis of the evidence provided. Is the evidence tainted by potential lies? Certainly! If POF had the following question on your profile; How many sexual partners have you had in the last 10 years? Would we get accurate, truthful answers? No, probably not. If the answers were to be made unavailable to prospective viewers we would still be unlikely to get 100% truthful answers. And for a myriad of reasons. We aren't sure of the answer, what constitutes a sexual partner, who might be able to see our answers, will they use it to match me with other experienced or inexperienced people, will they use this information to begin a thread on Christmas Day because they aren't spending the day with their loved ones.

So many reasons for people to not tell the truth. What is being used for matching purposes? What is being used for spamming purposes? Certainly, that possibility hasn't been lost on many of you. How does a site remain free? Advertising! How do we know that our answers to the seemingly innocuous matching questions aren't actually being used to determine which advertising partnerships are more likely to be used by their clients, thus creating more profits.

But back to the main point, if the Admin were to say that all women who wear halter tops do so to cover their breasts no one would be offended. If they say that 20% of women who wear halter tops do so to make flashing guys easier and subsequently they are whores, then we would hear from the 80%. We would hear, I wear halter tops and I've never flashed anyone. Or, I wear a halter top and I'm not a whore. Newsflash, you aren't the whore he is referencing here, be quiet. It never ceases to amaze me how some people are so willing to be offended by something that isn't even being said about them.
 trailviews
Joined: 8/14/2006
Msg: 187
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Posted: 12/26/2007 8:02:23 AM
well i can't say for sure if that is true or not,but it sounds like a sterotype to me,i mean you either are promiscuous or not

Actually your misunderstanding (and everyone else's) is why this thread is kind of pointless. Promiscuity isn't an either/or; it's a number (i.e. how many partners you've had) relative to somebody else's number over a period of time. If the average 30 year old woman who doesn't smoke has had an average of 2 partners over her life and the non-smoker 3, the non-smoker would still be "more promiscuous", where if the average 30 year old woman who doesn't smoke had an average of 102 partners over her life and the non-smoker 103, the non-smoker would still be "more promiscuous".

Women who smoke here are taking great offense to the term "promiscuous" when all it means from a statistical standpoint is that they've probably met a few more perfectly decent men, than non-smokers have. If you look at general population statistics from an "either/or" standpoint, you're likely to be misinterpreting them.
 clambroth
Joined: 10/27/2007
Msg: 188
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 8:06:55 AM
I don't think women who smoke are promiscuous. That was the quantum leap made by the thread originator. Couldn't say from personal experience that women who smoke ARE promiscuous nor do I use the sign that a woman who smokes as a sign of her possible promiscuousness. However I do look at women who smoke as cheap, not promiscuous. It is a cheap, dirty habit and I would stay away from a woman simply because she smokes.
 jenny68
Joined: 10/22/2006
Msg: 189
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 8:07:50 AM
What about drunks or bi polar or sybill with many different personality or any gal under the age of 45 years of age.?{smokers and drunks and drugs}%%%%%
So, your info is wrong .
Men ages 14 to 81 {drinking problems } and if they had a moral thought They might be dangerous. also a huge drug problem in that age group of men.
 SpunGlass
Joined: 12/21/2007
Msg: 190
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 8:10:42 AM
Our great POF creator has indeed sparked controversy with this post... I'm sure that was his whole intent. I'm just disappointed he'd use a post like this to do so... As a smoker, all I can say is...if we're far more promisuous, why is it we're all on here instead of out having a blast?? Leave it to me to be one of the dumb smokers that doesn't get the 'fun' part of the stigma...
 SpunGlass
Joined: 12/21/2007
Msg: 191
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Posted: 12/26/2007 8:11:33 AM
*promiscuous* ugh... couldn't get back into my post to edit....
 northeast25
Joined: 12/4/2007
Msg: 192
Women who smoke are far more promiscuous.
Posted: 12/26/2007 9:52:01 AM
Anytime someone produces some stats, you need to take into account any variables that could affect the stats. In this case, things such as age, education level, geography among other things could affect smoking habits.



Statistically men who engage in porn WEEKLY (not daily) are far more likely to cheat or have extra-marital affairs, and 84% of men indulge in some type of porn WEEKLY. So....YOU do the math!


How you do know that this is true? How could people keep track of what internet websites a man visits, what magazines a man reads, or what DVDs a man watches? All a man needs to do is delete the history on his computer or throw away / hide his X-rated magazines and DVDs to prevent anyone from knowing.
 forums1
Joined: 5/14/2007
Msg: 193
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Posted: 12/26/2007 9:52:14 AM
15% of the cars in the US are made by GMC.
20% of pet owners charged/fined with animal abuse for leaving pets in the car with the windows rolled up in summertime were drivers of GMC cars, a higher percentage than any other brand of vehicle.

Therefore, most GMC owners are abusive to animals.

I made all that up, of course, but that seems to be the equivalent logic - a total farce of statistical analysis.
 David Lewis
Joined: 11/18/2007
Msg: 194
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Posted: 12/26/2007 10:43:46 AM
^^^^ That analysis doesn't establish cause and effect correlation,
only statistical correlation. The hypothesis that temperament
influences sexual behavior gives rise to an empirically falsifiable causal link
between addiction susceptibility and lifetime number of sex partners.
If you have evidence to the contrary, I cordially invite you to present it.
 Libertine154
Joined: 12/7/2005
Msg: 195
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Posted: 12/26/2007 10:50:46 AM
OP,

What is the point of this post? I mean, are you trying to perform a community service project by warning us about the evil smokers? Or are you simply railing on how much you loathe and detest smokers? It's gotta be one of these...
 ruthc71
Joined: 12/12/2007
Msg: 196
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Posted: 12/26/2007 10:56:21 AM
hahaha i cant believe what im reading!!! i smoke and if im with someone i wouldnt dream of cheating!! how ridiculous putting people in a box!!!
 David Lewis
Joined: 11/18/2007
Msg: 197
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Posted: 12/26/2007 11:11:28 AM
^^^^ It was already pointed out that broad statistical averages
do not make any predictions regarding the behavior of specific
individuals -- which illustrates the hazard of contributing to threads
prior to reading them.
 The Lady
Joined: 10/22/2007
Msg: 198
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Posted: 12/26/2007 11:31:22 AM
It would be a good deal more fun to analyze why the OP felt it worthwhile to post the information.

While the post strikes me as nothing more than the all too familiar nasty little boy behaviour, I'm sure we could come up with a number of other equally valid reasons, and with a wee bit of effort, I'm sure we could also find stats to support our conclusions! oooo some possible New Year's entertainment!
 horneschwoggle
Joined: 8/12/2007
Msg: 199
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Posted: 12/26/2007 11:36:15 AM

I take umbrage to your rude proclamation that “WOMEN WHO SMOKE ARE FAR MORE PROMISCUOUS” and I am offended by this post.

You're offended? This is accumulated factual data from this site, so its creditable.
This is not saying All women smokers are far more promiscuous.
I find this date site ladened with women smokers and most send e-mails with messages of sexual content, versus e-mails from non-smoking women where its entirely non-existent.
My opinion about being promiscuous goes hand and hand with low self-esteem; a trait of some women who smoke.
 brown_eyed_woman
Joined: 9/6/2007
Msg: 200
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Posted: 12/26/2007 11:48:16 AM
I cant speak for anyone other than myself...I have smoked, am always fighting to stop smoking forever...and I am the least promiscuos woman you will ever meet. Stats can be interpretted any way...and you can make the results favorable to any hypothisis, if you try hard enough. Took a neat little statician course many years ago that totally changed the way I view any stat now...so although I disagree with this statement "Women who smoke are far more promiscuous", I can understand it probably took someone many hours to put together the data in a way that supports this statement.
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