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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 5:33:38 PM | To the woman who started this thread , I can only advise you in this manner.
No matter what type of help YOU decide to seek , remember these things.
Therapy is a collaborative effort. Don't expect your therapist to do all the work for you. If you are going to benefit from from any type of therapy , YOU must actively participate in the therapeutic process. Don't expect your therapist to make decisions for you. They are not going to tell you how to run YOUR life. Your therapist should not be a subsistute friend because friendship is characterized by a mutual give and take where-as therapy is focused solely on you. Expect therapy to challenge how you think and act. Don't confuse the emotional release that you might experience from the simple act of talking about your problems with change. And most importantly , don't expect changes to happen overnight. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 5:54:10 PM | | Hi everyone and my opinion is against foriegn substances and the crazy push for sales of all things. I believe in you and everyone who has the most powerfull "tool" in the world. The human brain! Most all children learn the power of the mind during hotdog eating when they have their friends throwing up from telling them it is made of something nasty. Surgeons learn control, martial artists learn control ,soldiers learn control, gymnasts and other professionals learn to control their minds. Because of the ability of the television to control the mind that is why cigarettes advertisement was barred from television many years ago. Please, please,please understand you have the power to do "anything" with the right understanding and that you do not need to be hooked up on anything even some cell phone contracts. People and corporations love to have constant repeat business and they "play" the doctors, and the people with television adds for unatural substances that are so dangerous that the people who are being recruited as pressure to the doctors can't even obtain these "drugs" on their own. What about St. Johns Wort? Breathing in through the nose (3-5 second count) and out through the mouth(1st coice) or nose for the same duration and doing this always instead of when something gets broken. Once again I believe in everyones ability to control themselves . | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 6:05:44 PM | | I'm way over 30 and the only anti-depressants I've ever been on were Hawaiian Shirts. I'll notice that when I'm depressed, I start wearing gray. Then I'll go buy some bright colored Hawaiian shirts and it'll turn things right around. Now-a-days I wear orange socks every day and it keeps me from getting depressed. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 6:44:26 PM | | I know enough people with legitimate and severe depression who really need anti-depressants, that I would never presume to second-guess whether anyone has a legitimate need or not. It's a matter between them and their doctors and therapists. However, one thing I've been reading about lately that does give me pause, is research into the effects of SSRI's (Selective Seratonin Re-Uptake Inhibitors, like Prozac) not just on sexual function, but also on love. It turns out that not only can they reduce sexual responsiveness, delay or inhibit orgasm, but also interfere with the ability to form emotional attachment and fall in love. To me this is even scarier. There's a good overview in the current on-line edition of Psychology Today, called "Sex, Love and SSRI's". Or try googling "Dr. Helen Fisher" an anthropologist who has done a lot of research into the brain's reactions to emotions like being in love. Did you know that if you're in love, it actually shows up differently on an MRI? | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 7:12:49 PM | | Good point Ms Curiosity. People should really take the time to do some research on the subject , at least out of respect for the person who started this thread and others who suffer from depression or other mental health disorders. Not only do SSRI's effect sexual function , they also cause headaches , nervousness , difficulty sleeping , and loss of appetite. All of the SSRI's have serious side effects. The fact is , by the early 1990's , over 1 million prescriptions for Prozac per month were being written. The antidepressants Prozac and Zoloft account for over 3 BILLION dollars a year in just the United States. Thats what is really scarry. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 7:50:05 PM |
It turns out that not only can they reduce sexual responsiveness, delay or inhibit orgasm, but also interfere with the ability to form emotional attachment and fall in love.
This might not always be a bad thing, though. Think about all of those people who fall in love disastrously. Having one's ability to fall in love impaired might, in such a situation, be a Godsend.
Be interesting to see how many people who suffer from chronic depression also have tendencies toward inappropriate attachments. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 7:51:20 PM | OP , I do Not wanna 'open a can of worms' here (Really)
Just , I have seen some 'other' posts / Threads of YourS
And? Is it not True/Fact , um...That You 'partake of other substances'?
Now, as i stated^Not trying to...'cause ruckus' - really.
I Do see that OP has Not 'come back' , Posted in the thread she started.
If Op does 'come back'?
OP : The 'mixing' of the drugs (prescribed,Not prescribed) Is Not a *Good Idea*
Just in my own lil opinion , i Also believe that the 'Partaking' of the 'Non-Prescribed'?
Going to Really Interfere , with Any/All ~True Healing~ process.
Aside from my 'UnQualified opinion' ? There Must be 'Qualified' , Medical , Psychological
*Proof* , That the Mixing of these different 'things'? = Not Good | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 8:16:11 PM | Hi womanofsubstance-
I was just[in Oz] with a friend who would run for her pill box upon any sign of feeling anything.She did cry once..but was 'numb' most of the time.Not ideal for developing intimcy in relationship.She was on Xanax-& a 'mood stabalizer'.
Experiencing emotions without guidance/structure doesn't seem to stop their overpowering nature for most.So I can see how you might think that without the pills you would fall apart.
Speaking from my own experience: I was someone with alot of grief
& rage but was able to work thru my problems in therapy & let the tears out...but I also found some kind of resolution...light came : mental & physical health improved.
Having said that-it took a loooong time-lots of hours-and lots of $.
Best | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 8:20:47 PM | You mean I could have been on them for the last 17 years and I wasn’t? That is not fair!
Seriously though I have a friend that was on them and it helped her get through a rough spot in life. I have no problem with people needing some help in life.
I made the mistake years ago of not taking painkillers for chronic pain. At the time the doctor said they would help but that they were addictive. I chose to deal with the pain and blew away years of my life. Eventually we managed to find another solution but if I were to do it again I would take some chemical help. Life is too short to waste especially when your internal chemistry is keeping you down. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 8:31:28 PM | | In this part of the country,prescription abuse is a major factor,doctor shopping,pills for sale so please do not tell me everyone who gets a "scrip" for "little helpers",actually need them,true enough there are some that do,but after seeing people that don't abuse them,I'm quite happy to say never taken them,and hope i never have to,but please,those who don't need em just use them as a form of avoidance to keep from having to deal with real life, nuff said | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 8:33:41 PM | the.chi.of.love --I wish that Dr. Stephen Berzurchka would take Dr. Phil's spot on primetime. Thank you for posting that, as it was even more insightful than Michael Moore's film. In a sea of pseudo-psychology and mind-numbing Dr. Philism's, that clip is the most intelligent material I have seen in human psychology within the last 10 years.
Suddenly, I'm having the compulsive urge to paste that link after every "move on" post I read on POF. I love his references to Aldous Huxley. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 9:02:52 PM | After reading the newest comments, I just felt the urge to speak further. I for one, am not hiding behind anti-depressants..just using them sensibly. Some of you are talking Xanax...and I'm not certain if that is classified as an anti-depressant.....but I know that it is highly addictive and abused by many....if one feels good.......3/4 is better.
I'm talking about drugs in combination with hormones....based on your history...with the aid of your doctor. And often some woman.....gets on her soapbox and is determined not to take them.......and drives her husband/family nuts because she is so mean!
Another use that I have experience with........my mom was prescribed a mild dose after being diagnosed with Alzheimer's....it helped to reduce the agitation. The difference it made in her behavior was just awesome.
I'm certainly not promoting use.......I'm just saying that often they can be the answer to many issues.
Having been married to a psychologist, I am certainly not discounting their worth.
However, there are many people that can not afford their services.
JMO........Becca | |
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Jemue
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 11:05:48 PM | Ignorance can be found in the most unlikely places.
Indeed and that statement works on all kinds of assumptions.........
Hence why being a counsellor and dealing with this first hand and studying the results of the med companies profits ..... errr drugs .. vs the placebos and seeing that there are much better ways of dealing with 99% of the issues, as the vast majority of the meds do no better/different.
Dealing with the cause and not attempting to just "pill up" and treat the symptoms as is so common a few certain areas (and obvious, just follow the money) of the world.
When you are in a system where the profit is the target and not the well being of the individual, it doesn't matter, and the outcome is obvious.
Hence the ban on prescribing to kids in the UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5oJPRuFDIk
The destruction and detriment of the individuals well being of that society (and what it embodies) is very well know and researched. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 11:18:53 PM | | Thanks everyone for your advice and even the negative comments. Without my antideppressants i would probably get really upset at some of the posts and cry. I dont feel upset at all because they level out my emotions and i can think logically rather than irrationally. Some people dont understand real deppression as i never used to. I would pick up the phone and blast my sisters for not getting their shit together. We all had a shit up bringing with a father who used us all for his own pleasures. My two little sisters were to weak to fight off the memories and live a normal life. They took their own lifes and i just wish i knew then what i know now about how scary deppression can be. Im not just talking about grief or feeling down. It was absolute terror just waking up and having to face another day. To scared to leave the house even to check the mail. Just waiting for nighttime again to go into the only safe place sleep. Not being able to eat or have any interest in anything at all apart from sleep. Hoping like hell to wake up feeling better only to wake up again feeling totall terror of living. I used to think my sisters were using their deppression for pity or an excuse to be a no hoper. Boy was i wrong. It is real and dangerous. Ive spent thousands of dollars on therapy and healers hypnotists you name it. The only thing that works is anti deppressants. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 11:27:22 PM | | The point i was getting at is that so many others i know who i would never have dreamed needed anti depp are on them and i dont know many people who arent. I just think its sad. Id love to be one of these people who can just grieve and get over it but for some like me it just dosent happen that way. When im off them the whole lot of grief including childhood rape all comes back to my head at the same time and i have major panic attacks. I used to think my sisters were faking them too. Theyre real! Anyhow im perfectly happy and stable now and can live a normal life. i still get sad at christmas but thats to be expected when the family has shrunk so much. Happy New Year everyone and to those who can do without them. Count your blessings | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 11:37:47 PM | | No, they aren't. But there are a frightening number of people on the dating market who choose to have emotional problems that are looking to sink their hooks into someone and drag them along on a journey to hell. Explosive rage, random crying jags - Not acceptable. Seems like a lot of people have the attitude that it is rude and selfish to require a partner to not emotionally fillet us for things we haven't done. It makes me wonder what their dating goals really are. Not everyone on the dating market is playing the same game and some of those games are quite sinister. | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 11:39:12 PM | Dealing with something, and trying to medicate away the symptoms are two different things.
There might arguably be a time and place for both, every situation is unique, and I've worked with it first hand. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 11:40:12 PM | who choose to have emotional problems
Are you kidding ! Who choose to have emotional problems! My God you are ignorant. It's not a choice any more then getting sick with a physical disease is a choice . The brain can become sick just like any other organ in the body.You clearly have no understanding of mental health at all. God forbid someday it should strike you down without warning. | |
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Jemue
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 11:47:26 PM | The brain can become sick just like any other organ in the body.
Yes and that is something completely different that the typical reason that the drugs being talked about here are prescribed.
You clearly have no understanding of mental health at all.
Are you a therapist, a mental health worker or a psychiatrist of some kind, and the receptionist thing is a cover ? ............ define the difference between mental illness, well being, a disorder, mental health, etc ........
I would think the choice he's talking about is choosing to deal with the issue, though that raises the question if the persons is aware, capable or even willing. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/26/2007 11:52:09 PM | Are you a therapist, a mental health worker or a psychiatrist of some kind, and the receptionist thing is a cover
No i am a receptionist. My experience is personal experience and i know that it is not a choice. It is a very ignorant and hurtful statement to make that you can just choose to not have problems like depression. You can choose to remain in a depression and get no help ,but it actually happening to you is not a choice. I am sorry you feel the same way he does .
By the way as i no longer get into flame wars on here i will not be responding to you anymore. I will not go through pages and pages of trying to explain myself to people again . | |
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Jemue
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/27/2007 12:05:19 AM |
My experience is personal experience and i know that it is not a choice.
Once you believe that your own individual view of the world and experience is the only one and disregard all others ....... then you are doing no more that the person you just attempted to attack.
I am sorry you feel the same way he does .
Your lack of explanation and rational shows that you don't know how I feel or think about the matter at all.
By the way as i no longer get into flame wars on here i will not be responding to you anymore.
Indeed it looks like you just try to start them, it would appear that you just attack (as you did above) opposed to accepting another's view, as it doesn't match your own.
Outrage for the sake of it, is just that, and not debate. So yes defending or attacking would be pointless, debating or explaining your views would be different.
I will not go through pages and pages of trying to explain myself to people again .
Well you didn't start to explain your view anyway, just play false victim to attack another's. So continuing that wouldn't help no, though actually explaining would. | |
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| is everyone over 30 taking antidepressants?
Posted: 12/27/2007 12:12:04 AM | No, not everyone.
Some of us get a 'natural' high without anything, drugs, alcohol, etc....just enjoying life. If I could bottle and sell it I would.
Why, well I like to see people happy!
Just a thought, if you spend time making someone else happy, just one other person happy, it might help you forget about your problems for awhile...
a new kind of "pay it forward" | |
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