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| Try Carlos Xuma
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:12:20 PM | You guys are killing me! 
Isn't this an online dating site? | |
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Joined: 6/17/2007
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| Try Carlos Xuma
Posted: 7/6/2007 7:33:44 PM | | sure is, a bit of fun. I prefer the pubs and clubs myself :) | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 7/7/2007 4:39:26 PM | I think it's hot when women bash DD. Really turns me on. The girls on this thread doing that...
Such a goddamn relief to hear them defend the dignity of women.
A woman who thinks DD sucks is my kind of woman. If you want quality, forget DD.
If it fits who you are and you have bad taste in women, then that's cool, but if it's not you, don't listen to it. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 7/29/2007 8:10:32 PM | First of all, for those who say than anyone who needs to read a book is in deep trouble... well yeah. But some guys have no other choice. I know guys who are anywhere from decent looking to good looking, over 20 years old and have never so much as kissed a girl. In most cases its due to some sort of lack of social development or just general social cluelessnes. Not that I'm one of them, but If I didn't have a problem with dating I wouldn't even be on this site.
I have read and invested a good deal into DD's stuff. I have concluded that when you read all the stuff he says NOT to do... well that was totally me in a nut shell. I was a guy who could never attract women, and I'm not just talking hotties. I also mean the relatively cute girl next door, the cute fat girl, the girl who you decide isn't that bad looking after a few drinks... couldn't get her either. I couldn't get any of them. And I'm am not at all a bad looking guy. Sad to say but the only girlfriend I ever had and the only reason I ever got laid was due to a cute skater girl with absolutely no self esteem. After reading through DD's material it hit me like 'OHHHHH, so thats been the problem all along.
Beside, DD is more than anything about increasing a guys self esteem and self worth. About making him believe he deserves the woman he wants. All this in a society that has lost the concept of masculinity.
Far from mastering myself but I am now able to watch male/female interactions and understand in which cases the woman is responding positively and why. When I see the not so great looking guy who's girlfriend is a hottie and watch them interact, I no longer think "what is she doing with that loser?"
Just consider your selfs lucky, those of you naturally born with the knowledge on how to create attraction with women. Those of you who think its something that just happens because "chemistry" is being created... and such. Well you don't know it but you're doing something to create that chemistry, it doesn't just happen out of thin air.
The worst thing is when guys ask advice from the "naturals" about how to attract women, the naturals often say "Just be yourself and she'll like you." Maybe its that easy for you, but "just being themselves" is the main reason that "losers" couldn't get a date to save their life. I used to be one of them. Its tragic because I see these dateless wonders getting this wretched piece of advice all the time. If in a case the persons "self" is a needy, insecure, wussy, clingy, ass kisser, who's to cowardly to advance at all with a girl, why the hell would you tell him to be himself? Do you want him to be bitter, lonely, drunk, possibly a virgin, forever? A guy like that, the problem is being themselves, and I know several of them. It used to be me.
DD, thank you for showing me the light. I need more in field experience to make it all more natural. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 7/29/2007 11:01:57 PM |
get tired of doing different things and playing different games just to hook up with some female that you realize isn't worth your time
I read DD about a year ago and I thought it was worth my time.
However, I haven't had a date since.
I'm not sure if there's a correlation, ho! | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/6/2007 8:20:48 PM | I'm filching this from the profile of a woman I came across this evening...
"Seduction is when a man coerces a woman into saying yes. love is when she says yes because she wants to."
I'd add "trick" too. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/7/2007 12:49:52 PM | I think David Deangelo whoever he is, is full of s**t to be honest and I've had so called advice from him. If I ever met this bloke I would give him a good slap, who made him the expert on this stuff.
I don't mind good advice, but what he tells men would scare some men of relationships for good. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/7/2007 2:21:43 PM | | I think the title says it all: "Double Your Dating." Great, so if I go on one date a month and I pay him $25, I'll go out on two dates a month? Doesn't seem like such a great offer to me... | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/7/2007 2:27:38 PM | David DeAngelo... I mean, Eben Wind Pagan (retired Christian Rock Star turned Pick Up Guru/ Marketer) has made his millions selling good, solid advice to men... some "nice guys", some not... so that they can communicate with women better.
But as a source of original information, he is not. He's a marketer. He doesn't rip people off, he makes his money introducting "ideas" and "methods" to people who buy his products.
He was a student of Ross Jeffries, a more "famous" PUG who took NLP and used it in a seduction frame. Eben introduced Mystery to the world (he's now hosting the new VH1 TV show about Pick-Up).
Now, I personally am bored to tears by the man's presentation style. However, many people swear by his products and the way that he talks on them. Is it good advice?
I would say yes. Eben sells people on improving thier "Inner Game". And if you are confident in yourself, all interactions, both with women as well as others outside of the dating arena, improve greatly.
You see, when women say that they want guys to "be themselves", it's only a half-truth. They want men to "be themselves... CONFIDENTLY."
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/7/2007 2:51:41 PM | I date a person that had the entire 14 or so CD's packet and had it for two years and still didn't go thru the entire thing.
Then we started dating and he felt that if we sat down and went thru it together that WE could enrich our relationship and figure out what WE were doing wrong and why all of our previous relationships failed. Well I sat down with him on many occassion which indeed spark some good conversation and some negative conversation.
If you you came up to me in a bar with his pick up lines you would be leaving by yourself. You are exactly right, it is all about one night stands. If you dont believe in yourself and your own talent then seek out a personal therapist and improve yourself. What works for one person who is making a killing in money off the soles that think DeAngelo has all the answers is sadly mistaken and all of them are a little less light in the pocket book and still don't think they have the answers.
As far as my relationship with this person. I packed up his David DeAngello CD along with some of his other crap and told him goodbye. I guess that maybe he went thru the dating book and he skipped that section about leave your ex-girlfriends in the past and dont call them asking them their opinion on what is going on my our ( now former) relationship. That and his drinking that he didn't think he had a problem with along with anti-drepresants. (not a good combination)
Hey at least he has David DeAngelo and no money to sit home with and he can call on his ex's and see what he did wrong. DUH!!!!
Dont go to your friends all the time for advise,,,they get sick of you whinnning. Get up off you butt and change since the old you is not working it appears or maybe you are in the wrong line of people that you are trying to pursue.
Tell it like it is, tell the truth. You might think you are opening a can of worms but you are really opening the honest to God truth and from a woman that has only had a cook book published, a women will always respect the truth before she will some dumb game plan. Build on the truth from the very beginning and you dont have to impress or act like somebody you are not.
Still single in Kansas and loving it and don't need a step by step book on communication. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/8/2007 3:09:45 PM | he's an ***hole and he teaches people to be ***holes. not exactly the ingredients for a solid marriage. i am horrified to find out that he started out as a christian, what you call, rock star.
so you are basically telling us he is the devil and he is tempting men to throw their lives away long with the women he teaches the men to abuse before he steals their souls.
i always just considered him an asshole but now thanks to you for providing this information i know he is actually much much worse.
i bet he started in florida or boston. and i bet his christian guru was a cult leader.
i think its very disturbing that there are guys like him as well as religious nuts programming the public on how to mess people up. does jonestown ring a bell? or the haley comet guys from san diego? | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/8/2007 3:18:43 PM | and if you check out mystery's book or whoever it is authored by at the bookstore you'll begin to realize that all those guys are off their rockers. they are psychologically disturbed. seriously. they are nuts.
stay the hell away from them. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/8/2007 4:13:17 PM | Posted By: MB58SC on 9/21/2006 12  49 PM Subject: David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback? Message: I personally think books are a useful way to get information, whether dating or not. The key to women is confidence, and challenge. No one has to be a jerk or an ***hole to be challenging. Women don't want a kiss ass chorus behind them who says yes to everything they want, and calls 36 times in a 24 hour period. They want a man they can court and pursue, who keeps their "interest level" high. Challenge.....
correction we want a man who keeps our self esteem high
someone who will be a positive reflection on our self image. not people who will ruin it or lower it.
challenging women is a bad idea it doesn't really work and shows a sinister side of the person who would use it. confidence is always attractive.
challenge is just another term for harassment of women and leading women to their downfall. or to provoke them into anger.
how the hell is that a positive and moral thing???? its not!
all these gurus are doing is promoting criminal activity and deviants to disturb the social order.
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/8/2007 6:56:48 PM | BTW, all this stuff ("How to Play the Game," etc.) doesn't go over at all in NYC, because the women are wise to all these "tricks." In fact, a woman I dated was subletting an apartment where we found one of these books, and we went through it together and roared. We even underlined totally irrelevant passages to see if the poor guy would consult it again.
But, as P.T. Barnum once said, "there's a sucker born every minute, and two to take him." | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/25/2007 5:04:43 PM | you guyz are hilarious, cant believe many people here are real blind
guyz its " double your dating"
not Double your relationship. DDA teaches you dating , not relationship, even in his seminars when a guy ask about relatinship question, he blow them them, he always make things clear that its dating. focus on dating guyz, | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/25/2007 7:34:45 PM | Don't read it, just follow the ridiculous whining here and hope you find a left over woman willing to tolerate your nagging in the next century. Actually, his stuff works! But it doesn't work as instantly as some point out. You see the whole**** and funny, first turns you into a**** ***hole, so then as you learn to communicate, learn to be subtle, learn to actually do listen to women, to what they want. Then the material works. However, if you want to learn to become a pick up artist, this is not for you. This is about building confidence on yourself as a man, inside and out. And how to communicate with a woman in a way that creates attraction. The worst thing you guys can do is go ask your girlfriends what they think is good. They will tell you to be nice, to be good. It's all bull. The same girl next week falls for a guy that is the complete opposite of that.
Also the material teaches you control. Most men want to have sex so bad that they may as well write it on their forehead. Women see that, women ignore those men. However, women do want to have sex, women want men, but not every man, a special man that will evoke certain emotions in her.
At the center of the whole philosophy is that "Attraction is not a choice." Now think about that? Now many women you have spoken with and said, I don't know, I am falling for that guy, even though blah, blah, blah. Now this material doesn't teach you to be a player, for that there are other stuff you can use and that is half baked bullshit. What this stuff teaches you will help you be not with the only woman that wanted to put up with you, but a woman that fits your style much better.
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/25/2007 7:58:14 PM | Olli oop says:
Using deception to seduce a woman is manipulative and corrupt.
I have been told that this author recommends deception and indifference with the express intent of seducing women to unknowingly have one night stands. If this is not true, then please say so
If you read, half the people posting here are saying all kinds of things that have nothing to do with what DD teaches. There's no manipulation. Remember Dale Carnagie? If you ever wanted to learn sales, or how to influence people this is a 101 book. The beginning of a journey. And it's not about deceit, it's about understanding. Similar principles and it teaches a man to be a better man that women want.
In fact, if you to the thread where women are commenting on what they want in a man, shy or outgoing, well, they are spilling the beans and vindicating everything DD teaches.
Go look, you'll like it. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/25/2007 8:23:10 PM | same feedback that I give on all the self help relationship books.
The only one that they want to help is the authors bottom line.
Any person who can think for themselves doesn't need them.
Which probably explains the popularity of that type of books and articles. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/25/2007 8:27:08 PM |
Now, is she not attracted to him because they are wrong for each other, or because he just didn't know how to be attractive? Personally, I'm going do everything I can to learn how to attract women so that when i finally do meet the one, there will be no question as to wether or not I will be able to attract her.
Dude, well said. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/25/2007 9:19:59 PM | Blond in tokyo says:
And no, I have to say "techniques" wouldn't work on me. I can easily recognize when a guy is really confident, as opposed to being overly arrogant to cover up that he has no confidence. It's one thing if a guy is trying hard to be confident because he is interested in me, and it's another thing when a guy is playing a game just to see if he can get in my pants. The former shows me he's a nice guy who is trying hard to be friendly; the latter is just an ***hole whom I would shoot down without compunction.
First of all, the stuff works. And I am going to give you an example. Even though odd. The things you learn about being funny, confident you apply everywhere, you make it your norm. In a bike shop there was this lady and her daughter. We talked about bikes, joked about this and that and well, I picked up my bike and left. I did not even asked her a phone number or nothing. Then later I am in this trail and somebody screams my name. I looked around, did noticed some very nice looking woman, but by now way behind. So I went on. Then in the parking lot, she approached me. It's the lady from the bike shop. I complement her on her bike, but tease her on her shoes and other little stuff. She laughs we are having a good time. I walk to my car in those clunky bike shoes and begin to get off my own gear. She then comes to me and gives me her phone number, indicating that maybe we can ride together, do something.
Again, this is what the DD material teaches you. Not to be an ass, but confident with who you are. Connecting with women, and then either giving you the chance to ask to move the interaction forward or even in a way push it on themselves. You are not even thinking about it anymore. It's 100 percent you. In the old days, I would have pursue her even more. I didn't. I didn't even insinuate asking for her number. But I did plenty of CKOCKY AND FUNNY stuff, that was not only my own, but that I just made up there, because I was interacting with her HAVING A GOOD TIME. And she did as well, enough to then give me her phone number, even though I never asked. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 8/25/2007 9:36:27 PM | iwarrior says:
Why do you need a technique? This isn't volleyball.
Okay, voleyball. The stakes. A game in the sand. Between friends. A championship.
volleyball is the exchange of a ball back and forth between to different teams with different objectives.
Relationships. She wants to find the right guy. You want to find the right girl. But you don't see that when you first see each other. So yo volleyball.
You do not use techniques that will allow you to engage, understand, connect, make her miss you, want you.
First round, you lose. You blame it on the world. Only people with money or good looks can win. Everything else is bulls•h*t.
Us. We play first round. She likes us. We kind of like her. We are ready for round two. I am not that easy, it's time she proves herself. I find an awesome woman. I don't **** about rich people and blame anybody else for anything, but only myself and what I can bring into the picture or accomplish.
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