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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 9/23/2006 7:27:12 PM | Here goes.
I have read the e-book which is phomenonal. I used to be the nice guy. I had to change as women see the nice guy as weak. I got the program on Approaching Women. This is absolutely amazing. It got me to go out and talk to women I wasn't interested in to get my confidence up for talking to women I am interested in. He focuses a lot on helping you change your inner self(inner game) to help you gain confidence. He goes into great detail in his Advanced Dating series about changing the inner you and the attraction triggers that women have. Attraction for women is not a choice. I am all for it. If you are a student of handling this part of your life then the amount you pay for his materials is like investing in microsoft in 1985. The results are that you become more confident and feel better about yourself. You without a doubt figure out how to talk to women and get email and numbers within a few minutes of meeting them. I prefer to talk a few more minutes to try to reveal who she really is before I commit to getting dressed up and meeting her. I changed from kissing women's asses to being**** and funny and the outcome is mind blowing for me. I have met more women since I have been reading his material than I have in the previous 33 years of my life. This sounds like a testimonial but the results, if you are willing to make changes are nothing like you have ever seen before. The interview series monthly is worth the 20$ lousy bucks a month. He says to try the materials for a month and send it back if you don't like it. Read one of his programs, preferrably the approaching women program and use it for three weeks. See the results you get. If you don't like it send the thing back. You will see the light. any oposers bring it because I could care less what you think. I am comfortable in my own skin and I really don't mind telling on an open forum that I have learned the proper path for handling this part of my life. Buy the book the game...much insight.
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 9/23/2006 9:22:13 PM |
I really don't see how that opinion is validated, especially since you've stated it as though it is fact, but I suppose you are entitled to it.
Lots of homework on the subject is where I find my theories. I state them factually because that is what I have observed and being a former "nice guy" and someone who was very unsure of himself, I know where my problems stemmed from.
I don't see a "false security blanket" when I read David D's stuff. I see training wheels. Many confident men just dont' know how to talk to women.
I don't find that to be the case. If you are confident in yourself you can talk to anyone if you see them on the same level. Every interaction with a woman is not meant to be one that generates a phone number. Not every man is "right" for every woman he meets and vice versa.
I used to approach women all the time and would always walk away with new friends. Never new romances.
Again, not every woman you meet is going to be a good match and therefore no romance is meant to occur.
I read a few books by david D, among others, and suddenly my success with women takes off. It really was just a matter of changing a few small things about how i viewed my interactions with women. The results were astounding, and out of all proportion to the effort that I put in.
So are you saying every woman you talk to now you have a romance with? Success to me isn't measured by how many romances you have but whether you are meeting and connecting with the RIGHT woman for you. That comes with confidence in yourself and knowing what you want in a partner -- not necessarily using pickup lines. And yes, David D. pushes a lot of silly pickup lines.
I'm supposed to take it on faith that when the right girl for me comes along, that she will be attracted to me just because we are soul mates? No thanks, i'm not taking that chance.
If you are confident in yourself and know what you want in life, you will know when you meet the right woman. David D's material will have nothing to do with it. It will not help you sustain a successful relationship if the foundation of strong self-confidence is not there. David D's stuff isn't training wheels, it's more of a crutch than anything.
Here's how i see it. Lets take a well rounded, confident man who just doesn't know how to attract females. I know that idea might sound like an oxymoron, but trust me that it exists, and exists frequently. He meets a girl that he has a hopeless crush on. He wants her, he believes that if they were together they'd be perfect for each other. But when he talks to her, he stutters, stammers or just says something foolish and she thinks he's creepy, and won't be attracted to him.
See, it is an oxymoron. If he's confident in himself he won't studder, stammer or be nervous or foolish around her. Those are not the character traits of a self-confident man so your example is incorrect.
Now, is she not attracted to him because they are wrong for each other, or because he just didn't know how to be attractive?
Given your example, she wasn't attracted to him because he was not truly a confident man. If he was, he wouldn't be displaying the "un-confident" character traits that you described.
Personally, I'm going do everything I can to learn how to attract women so that when i finally do meet the one, there will be no question as to wether or not I will be able to attract her.
Again, if you are confident in who you are and what you want, you will naturally attract the right woman based on who you are, not what lines you use. A confident woman will see through you like glass and you will not have a great, lasting relationship.
I also do not believe in soulmates because relationships that last take WORK. Soulmates infers that you'll be together no matter what and that's just not the case. People tend to take relationships for granted when they think they are with their soulmates. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/6/2006 11:05:04 PM | Well well, someone opened the can of worms!
Here's what I think:
If one is having difficulty with something, is clueless, and wants to improve then they should seek improvement. I know, ignorance is bliss, but there's nothing wrong with bettering one's self. If you're not happy with what the "real you" is getting then IMPROVE YOU. Don't be too proud to do so. Absorb good info and use what works.
It may take a few examples, videos, and homework combined with some practice in order to fast forward through years of trial and error. This is what these guys are making money on. They show you what works and why it works. You understand the framework and then apply that understanding in everyday life. When you know how to get it then you get what you want. Long term, short term, whatever. The key is not to become a robot. Be your improved self.
These materials hint that you can attract almost any woman. If you're really good (and rich) then that's true. For most, it'll simply boost their success rate... which is good.
Girls, don't be over-analytical and too opinionated LOL. I know you don't want some creepy guy to put on his gameface and use trickery to get sex. However, wouldn't you like for that hot, niceguy/asskisser to be able to flip all of your switches? Without a little knowledge, he might be the 47th guy that asks to buy ya a drink.. you'd be drunk as a sailor if you chatted with all of 'em! I'd say that alcohol is more manipulative than words lol. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/6/2006 11:29:16 PM | | My view is there are jerks and there are non-jerks, some chicks like jerks, some don't. There's someone for everyone isn't there? why criticize for what people like? Otherwise we would all be the same, how boring. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/6/2006 11:40:59 PM | I've heard bits and pieces of this guy's "pickup artist" courses and while you may be right that you can have some initial success with "being the jerk" you're never going to find a long term relationship this way. The jerk may often get the girl, but he never keeps her.
In addition, as a general rule, if you can't figure out the techniques that he teaches on your own then you're probably not going to have any luck putting them into practice either. Set aside the same amount of time his courses would require and ask yourself what you could do differently as far as your approach goes that would work better for you and still be in line with your own personal beliefs as well. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/6/2006 11:45:17 PM | I too read The Game by Neil Strauss.....I even loved the way it was cleverly packaged and marketed to look like some Gideon's Bible complete with red book marking tassle...My first thought was...."If you're telling me I have to stoop to this sort of level simply to get a woman to either like me, or sleep with me.....forget it"......I loved his reporting about it.....and in the end, didn't he end up being with a woman who didn't go for all the 'play book rules'? She just liked him for himself?.......
These 'pick up artist' books are only good for men who are into quantity verses quality...and there are enough posts from both sexes talking about game players already....
I also just read where Strauss just sold the rights of the book for a movie, soon to be released....if you'r going to use any of the tactics...I would suggest to DO IT NOW...cause the cover will be blown once the movies out....and then NOBODY'S getting laid after that!! | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 12:03:22 AM | Looked at some of his stuff out of curiosity, but I have to say it only seems good for getting one-night stands. Stuff like "I don't want things to get too serious", or "I think this girl's falling for me and I'm not after that kind of relationship" etc etc.
Which I think was roughly where he lost the last shred of credibility. Yeah, what he says might work if all you want to do is go out and get laid by a different girl each night. But why would you want to do that? I'd much rather come home to the same girl each night, and wake up next to her every morning.
Call me old fashioned if you like, but one-night stands and meaningless sex really aren't my thing. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 12:07:21 AM | You're exactly right... If a guy is a jerk, he'll never keep the girl. David DeAngelo's material doesn't talk about being a****ead to a girl. It merely shows a guy a way to get the girl to feel an attraction for you so that you may present her with your good qualities.
The second part of your post: All I have to say is that society has unfortunately molded us so that only certain attributes do matter, and alot of women don't look past looks and or your wallet, sad but true. DeAngelo's material just evens the odds so that nice guys like the guy that started this topic have a fair chance at meeting the girl of their dreams.
The material builds a man's self confidence and in no way teaches one to be a player or to be demeaning or disrespectful to women. Women ultimately still have the power to choose the guy they want to date whether the guy that is trying to court them is using DD's material. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 6:40:40 AM | Mrx1977,
I've read Deangelos works. While I've not contributed to his cause, as such, I do get emails and I read as much as I can.
His take often surrounds changing the way we think. Most guys have become subdued in the past 3 decades, what with all the femtalk this and femtalk that. Women have changed the playing field rules. Now, it's on guys to adapt. I don't disagree.
I just think guys were once, long ago, as Deangelo describes you should now be. In other words, they've become subdued, over the years, and he's coaching them to become what men once were like, instead of kissing ass in every possible way, which is what guys think today. Women have moved to the forefront from where they were 30+ yrs ago, and more power to them, but guys have been struggling to survive the aftermath. Deangelo does, indeed, show men how to be reborn, if you will. He's not showing anything men don't already possess, just how to use what we have effectively.
Bravo that!!
Just my 2.2 cts worth
Cheerz and happy hunting | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 9:03:56 AM | A book which if I was stuck with it on a desert island I still wouldn't read it. I believe I would eat his book or use it for firewood before I read it
Reading books is great . But if you place more faith in the "how to romance" efforts of some unknown stranger than you do in your own ability to judge your potential mate? You've already lost the battle.
just my 3 cents | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 9:08:38 AM | I also think reading books is helpful, but to use one book as a total guide to how you conduct your life....can't see it. It's always a growth experience to expose yourself to other people's thoughts, ideas and opinions, just like these forums, talking with others and reading books. It stimulates our own thought processes and we either affirm what we believe to be right for us or maybe open ourselves up to considering changing something to be better. Don't know if that makes sense, but don't think reading books in and of itself it either totally helpful or totally harmful. It's what you DO with what you read that matters.  | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 3:49:07 PM | | I think DeAngelo is trying to make a buck. Same with all the other "dating experts". It's all a racket. Dating itself is largely a scam. It's all about taking people for a ride and getting what you want from them. It sucks, so I don't bother. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 3:59:17 PM | People will write a book about ANYTHING. I even saw a book about "Why Dog Shit Turns White in the Yard". And, some poor schmuck was buying it.
Point is like other people said, the author is in it for the $$$. Doesn't matter WHAT he says, he'll make a few bucks and buy a nice vacation home.
And, sure there are alllllllllll kinds of men and women in the world.....some of them like jerks, some of them don't. I don't see why anyone needs a book to explain all that but hey......I'm JEALOUS of the author.....he had a GREAT IDEA and acted on it!!! Good for him!!! Too bad for the dopes who buy and believe it all. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 4:06:34 PM | At some point you have to let go of the behavioral gymnastics and be yourself - not the needy, insecure, nervous guy you used to be, but the new and improved, confident man that was there all along but which was repressed due to years of bad social conditioning.
All these programs should do is teach you how to UNLEARN bad behavior. Where the scammers will try to mislead you is by trying to make it seem that women are something that require exceptional skills to get. Even worse, you have to do this BUT still convey that you are the PRIZE. Impossible.
I think David D is teaching guys mostly positive things, but eventually you have to let go of the tactics and hat tricks because those get in the way of your natural ability to grow as a person. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 4:12:23 PM | It's all about your looks and $$$. 
I am convinced that most women look at your pic and your profession. if they don't like one or the other or both, they write you off.
Confidence? Nice guy/bad boy? Yeah right. Whatever.
Women are not a puzzle. You can't figure them out. You can't win their heart by acting a certain way or saying the right thing. There is no magic word.
It's all such a joke.
I'm joining a monastery or the Foreign Legion.
Have a face like a male model, a body like Mr. Universe, and a six-figure salary, and women will run to you, not caring at all about your personality. You could be a sociopath and women will want you. In fact, I think it's more about your salary than anything. Too many women simply want to be provided for. They're taught by our culture that they can and should trade on their sexuality. Everyone else just settles. Romance and true love is dying.
And many men like it that way.
You're not going to find anyone here fellas. Move on. There's nothing wrong with you. It's the whole game. No one's really winning. There's more to life than dating and whether or not women like you. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 5:11:14 PM | To iwarrior: in reply to your comment that women are only interested
in your profession and your pic....what are men interested in....the
emails I receive are mostly love your pic...if I didnt have a pic
I wouldnt receive any emails....and trading on your sexuality...how do
you go about doing that??? I'd like some suggestions...havent had any
luck in getting provided for...I done their dishes, their laundry, washed
the floors, raised their children and worked a full-time job since I was
17...Im sure Im not the only woman that lived a life that wasnt "provided"
for because we loved a man! | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 5:34:16 PM | what are men interested in....the
emails I receive are mostly love your pic...if I didnt have a pic
I wouldnt receive any emails....and trading on your sexuality...how do
you go about doing that??? I'd like some suggestions...havent had any
luck in getting provided for...I done their dishes, their laundry, washed
the floors, raised their children and worked a full-time job since I was
17...Im sure Im not the only woman that lived a life that wasnt "provided"
for because we loved a man!
I didn't say all women were like that but it seems that way sometimes.
I think people in general are attracted to the wrong things, unnatural things.
Looks are natural. Wanting a woman with fake boobs isn't.
Men are just as bad. I'm not letting them off the hook. They're a big part of why things are so messed up. They just want to get laid.
And you're trading on your sexuality. You're posting pics of your cleavage.
All I know is that I can't find anyone I want, and I'm tired of looking inward. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 6:54:11 PM | daisie I haven't said this before, don't know why, but I like reading your posts. Most times I agree, even when I don't agree totally, your posts just make a lot of sense.
I was raised in a family who loved reading and have had a life long love of books. Your point is still valid and I do agree. *sigh* Like so many other things, many publishers just flood the market with books that I wouldn't wipe my dog's butt with, if I had a dog. They've figured out how to market to the masses and convince them that reading their book is the answer to everything they ever wanted to know and will change their life.
And as a former psyche student I can't post my thoughts on the "pop psychology"...umm...well exploiters of people's vulnerabilities.
I just wish people would realize what books (reading other people's ideas, thoughts and opinions) can and cannot do. I love reading, always will, nothing will phase that. But I know that going into Barnes and Noble or on Amazon, I can't spend 19.95 and find a book that will unlock the key to the mysteries of life. Or help me or anyone else do the things we need to do to make our lives the way we'd like them to be, solve our problems or make someone else love us. | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 7:48:28 PM | Well said bucsgirl, well said as usual, what happened to Chris Simms? sorry digressed for a slight moment
I agree there is too many unnecessary self help books flooding the market and some with bizzare titles? I couldnt believe the title of this book...Can a guy get pregnant? what's unbelievable , there are people out there that are buying this book......another book if i was stuck on a desserted island I would rather eat it then read it
@iwarrior, if you truly believe that women are like that, im afraid youve lost the battle as they ( who ever they are) says.... Online dating can be like russian roulette at times sometimes your lucky sometimes youre not.......I have friends on here that have been lucky so to speak and has met wonderful people and their significant others on here.
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 8:03:50 PM | onegreatm8 Well I'll digress too...give us a moment, okay? Chris Simms was bleeding internally, who knows when he was injured, after the game he was rushed into emergency surgery and had his spleen removed.
He took a lot of hits in that game, saw it and winced with each one. Between Gruden and the NFL they're still arguing a roughing the passer penalty, moot point. It was a turning point of the game. Just glad I'm not on the O-Line...been a problem for Tampa still is. And Chris has eaten more dirt for 4 years than he should have.
When I go to a megabookstore which I love to...if they ever have blankets and a cot...don't plan on seeing me again. I gravitate to the self help section...it's a curiosity thing. And just say always amazing shocking, even took a notebook and just wrote down titles. Gave up when I was writing in a dayplanner, after five pages and looking at a section that was bigger than any other in the store. Umm.. that was Borders...if I were an alien from outer space and landed in the self help section of Borders..forget it, I'd probably beg to be beamed up!! | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 8:33:17 PM | IMHO these so call self professed experts who prey on the lovelorn and breeding indifference - selling one ideal and stating thier words as gospel, to the unsuspecting heart sick public, are simply money mongers. These books are the complete and utter downfall of many a good relationship - as they taint and poison straight forward thinking. Solutions to problems, especially in relationships, come from many perspectives not just one. Each relationship is as individual as the people in them and therfore cannot fit the senarios layed out in the pages. The solutions come from within the couple themselves, not from what some self professed expert says.
It can also be said - what woman in the right intelectual mind would want a 'jerk' in her life - to love and to have as a companion - to fulfull her desires?!?! Come on let's get real!! It may appear to be such from the outside looking in, but frankly and sadly, that is just how some women end up - they have the 'jerk' whether selected or not - he simply is and by the unlucky chance of the draw she got him.
People use your own heart and intellect - it should direct you on the path to a happy fulfilling love life. Listen to your intuition and exactly what your heart is saying is right - because only you know what is perfect for you - no one else and certainly no book can tell you that!!! | |
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| David Deangelo Double Your Dating - Any feedback?
Posted: 10/7/2006 8:51:06 PM | Wow. I'm amazed at the criticism of this one author.
I don't even have any of his work, but I know what he says for guys to do.
The c0cky/funny attitude he deems necessary just so happens to be based on how women have responded to men. It's just a book.
Who said ANYONE is living their life according to this one author.
I honestly think the reason this book/author is getting so much criticism is because Deangelo is encouraging guys to regain some of their masculinity and a lot of people find that somehow offensive. I don't support the new"train to date" methods, nor do I subsrcibe to date matching sites. Most are scams trhough and through, so, I'm agreeing with IWarrior on that.
But, have we not read enough of the many books or magazines that are designed to enlighten women on how to engage men or to percieve themselves differently in some way?
Come on. I'm amazed. I could name 10 different books, from 10 different authors, that are femspeak, and not one would grow the least bit of criticism.
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