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jack-d-ripper

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Ethanol Killing the Enviroment Posted: 7/29/2008 7:21:49 PM
Are you sure that it's true that ethanol is killing the environment? Go to Oil the end game.... www.oilendgame.com/ http://www.ted.com/index.php/speakers/amory_lovins.htm These are presentations by thinkers with many ideas and real ideas ... Not the OIL spin that dominates what we all hear......

AchyJake

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Ethanol Killing the Enviroment Posted: 8/1/2008 1:55:25 PM
It's all cool, Badger ! ! ! We're both right . . . How many times does that happen ? ? ?

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Ethanol Killing the Enviroment Posted: 8/1/2008 2:08:36 PM
Then I urge you to check out my web site on Ethos FR.....its called forearthonline.com/joplin

Tesla Roadster

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Ethanol Killing the Enviroment Posted: 8/1/2008 3:54:07 PM
The DEAD ZONE created in the sea and nitrogen runoff water is ideal for algae growth which......can be used to press OIL! The leftover carbohydrates can be used to make ethanol, the cellulose cow feed, any other waste fuel and on we go 21st century! The whole thing (I think...) entirely self sustaining. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algae_fuel

o76923

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Ethanol Killing the Enviroment Posted: 8/1/2008 4:30:25 PM
Look , Corn Ethanol is very easy to explain. Gas went up over $2 per gallon in the 70s We decided we needed energy independence Ethanol was a crazy new plan to fix it Turns out that it doesn't work all that well with Corn, the crop the US used Iowa liked the free hand outs Harken refused to ever let those free handouts die Media brainwashing from people like Harken and people who don't want a real alternative fuel convinced people ethanol was good We're stuck here paying 1.50 to 1.85 for a dollar of fuel Now, fun facts Sugar Ethanol increases energy output 8 fold instead of the negative return with corn A gallon of E15 is worse for your car and burns dirtier A gallon of E15 costs more than a gallon of regular fuel, except for subsidies in the energy bill Many nations on earth condemn corn ethanol as needlessly destroying food and raising world food prices. There are no major scientists that support Corn Ethanol anymore, the idea was that on a large enough scale it would work. Turns out there isn't enough landmass on earth for that to be the case. e.g. The idea was that a 1.04x increase done enough times would help. In practice a .9x increase (which is secretly a decrease) doesn't improve no matter how much you do it.