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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 6:45:11 AM | | Anyone who thinks carrying protection is a 'whore' needs some updated thinking. All men and women who could POSSIBLY (**note: does not mean you ARE going to) have sex with someone other than a committed partner should carry a condom. I am more respectful of someone who has protection and not have sex, than if we get hot and heavy and neither of us have protection. We need less STD's and child custody battles in this world, not more. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 6:58:38 AM | Visualdistortion,
<div class="quote">I don't do the hook-up scene at the bars. I have a couple times and it's not my style. Perhaps I should have worded this a little more carefully as there's always a cynic lurking somewhere in here looking to tear apart and misconstrue words. What I should have said was "I don't do the hook-up scene anymore; have a few times in the past and it's not my style", or "I don't like the hook-up scene, as I've not been happy with it the couple times I've played ball". But either way you look at it I can't see how I might be contrad!ick-ting myself. I didn't say I'd NEVER done it. I said I don't, which means as of right now. If you used to smoke and quit, psychologists would say you are a smoker forever, but most would say they don't smoke if asked. They don't say "I did for 15 years, a pack a day of Player's Lite Regular, and while my lungs hurt and I cough something nasty I really enjoyed it but quit a few years back. No, they respond with a "no, sorry I don't".
<div class="quote">Excuse me? How sexiest is that remark?How in the hell is that sexist?! LOL I'm quickly starting to wonder if your problem is men in general. I say NOTHING sexist in that comment! If I said I don't eat Vietnamese because it doesn't cater to my taste buds, would that be slandering women too? Somebody explain this one to me as I don't get it. It's not like I said those who participate in this activity are vile or dirty. I just said I merely don't care for it. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 7:53:29 AM | Visualdistortion,
I don't do the hookup scene. I've done it, and it's not my style I don't do the hook-up scene at the bars. I have a couple times and it's not my style. Perhaps I should have worded this a little more carefully as there's always a cynic lurking somewhere in here looking to tear apart and misconstrue words. What I should have said was "I don't do the hook-up scene anymore; have a few times in the past and it's not my style", or "I don't like the hook-up scene, as I've not been happy with it the couple times I've played ball". But either way you look at it I can't see how I might be contrad!ick-ting myself. I didn't say I'd NEVER done it. I said I don't, which means as of right now. If you used to smoke and quit, psychologists would say you are a smoker forever, but most would say they don't smoke if asked. They don't say "I did for 15 years, a pack a day of Player's Lite Regular, and while my lungs hurt and I cough something nasty I really enjoyed it but quit a few years back. No, they respond with a "no, sorry I don't".
I don't do the hookup scene. I've done it, and it's not my style Excuse me? ?How in the hell is that sexist?! LOL
I'm quickly starting to wonder if your problem is men in general. I say NOTHING sexist in that comment! If I said I don't eat Vietnamese because it doesn't cater to my taste buds, would that be slandering women too? Somebody explain this one to me as I don't get it. It's not like I said those who participate in this activity are vile or dirty. I just said I merely don't care for it. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 8:48:02 AM | Ok so i quoted the wrong one oops. I meant to quote this guy and stating his was the sexiest remark
Why do you care what we think, and the word 'whore' is for women. So, we think you have a deficient understanding of the English vocabulary.
My apologies.
I agreed with you so dont get bent out of shape about it. I just simply am a smartass, i actually relish in the fact that i am. It was meant to be taken lightly but sadly it wasnt. Besides i did answer the Ops question thanks, no need in getting anyones panties in a bunch. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 11:02:47 AM | haha, you mispelled sexist just the same as I did! LOL I felt like such a tool when I noticed I had but don't feel so bad now, unless you did it on purpose to mock me! If so, touche! ;-) Honestly, I have pretty thick skin. My responses sometimes come off as hasty but in all sincerity they aren't. It takes a lot to rile me up and there are few posts in these forums that'll do it even to a slight degree. And I'd fight you for that smartass crown anyday. ;-)
And to the guy that made that post (I didn't even notice it), if you actually read through the OP and a few others I've posted here you'd see that I didn't call myself a whore but said my exwife and her friends treated me like because I carried a condom on me. I used the term "whore" for reference here, but like Visual Distortion (I was going to shorten your screen name to VD, but that's just plain dirty!) just showed the term whore is not SOLELY set aside for women. Perhaps you should ensure your walls aren't made of glass before throwing stones in the living room. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 11:45:46 AM | My big one is "if you gotta use a condom you probably shouldn't be having sex in the first place" belief. First of all if you are carrying a condom around and don't have a partner, that means you will just have sex with any girl you get a chance with.
secondly, if you do have a partner, unless ofcourse you have sex on the go with them, your condoms should be stashed at the places you have sex....
thirdly in regard to my quote at the top, if you are having sex you should have sex with someone you trust to not have diseases, and they probably should be on the pill as well. So if you are in a close relationship with someone you trust, and you and your partner are tested, and they are on birth control, then carrying a condom is pointless because if you happen to have sex where you don't have a condom, then you still have the pill....
get the point? plus condoms suck anyways, i rather wait to have sex with a girl i am in a trusting relationship with and use birth control than have sex at all with a condom.
however if you cannot control yourself, then yes i guess carrying a condom on you is a good idea, and we call these people who cannot control themselves 'whores'. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 11:47:13 AM | | It does not matters if the girl is hot or not. Carrying condoms everywhere you go is no guarantee of diseases immunity. Besides, if a girl on the street invites me to have sex with her, I would politely refuse or just take her phone number for another occasion. Condoms are not going to protect you from having casual sex with strangers. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 12:05:52 PM | Boricua Papi, I'm not exactly sure where you coming from here, but condoms don't guarantee immunity from anything. But they sure do provide a pretty good safeguard. I'd rather go with 89-99% than with 0% protection against whatever is out there. I don't know where the "condoms won't protect you from having casual sex with strangers" came from because that has nothing to do with this discussion. Condoms are only as good as the person who uses them. If I carry them and decide against them what good is that?! The fact that they are in a pocket means nothing but I'm prepared if I decide to use one.
For some reason the example of running into a stranger and having sex keeps coming up in here and I'm not sure why. Narrow-mindedness seems to direct people to that conclusion when the idea of casual sex is brought up. If some girl grabbed me on the street and said "hey baby, let's get out of here" I'd probably drop the cliche line of "what, you aren't even going to buy me dinner first?!", at which point I'd hope she'd go grab a drink or something instead and put the other part on hold. I'm not against sex on a first date, but I'm not into hooking up on command either unless I was out drinking and that was my intention. But that seldom happens.
Joebury2004, Why do you make the assumption that because a person carries a condom and isn't in a committed relationship that they are willing to drop pants and bump uglies with anyone they meet? That's kind of an asinine assumption to make! If you keep your condoms ONLY where you have sex at home, what about when you go to their place? What about if you are on a first or third or fifteenth date with a girl and she invites you back to her place but like a good chunk of women she doesn't buy condoms or keep a stock at home? If I'm seeing someone steadily I'll usually buy a box for either place, and because I'm not looking in the box at her place when I'm there I'm unsure of the inventory. So by having one on me it provides a safety net in case we run out and don't have to spoil the mood by running to Shopper's Drugs at 2am.
And your third argument is ridiculous. Do you know how many lawyers, doctors, bankers, stock brokers, police officers, and school teachers, to name a few, are out there with STI's and may or may not even know about them?! You can never be safe from it just based on assumptions. What's the rule about assumptions again? The pill is a poor safe keep. We conceived our first child while my exwife was on the pill. I used a condom too. Funny how that works. And yes, I had a paternity test done.....it was required for blood work for a complication. I agree you should be careful who you are having sex with, but it's no one's business to say what is deemed a caring relationship.
I'll leave you to your close-minded judgementalism. If you want to champion yourself a saint that is your call. I'm going to live my life carefully and enjoy it while I can. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 12:17:22 PM | | I am just saying I don't really just have sex with a girl unless i plan to. Yes if i go to a girls house and its the 15th date then i'd carry condoms. The thing i debated against was "ALWAYS" having condoms on you. I also prefer the girl be on the pill and have and STI test, as well as I take a test. Eventually you will be having sex without condoms, or stuff happens. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 12:49:00 PM | Sarcastic, as always! ;-) I may have started early but I didn't wise up until I was almost done high school. I was a stupid kid once. But I make sure the one in my jacket gets used before I buy more. It doesn't sit there long so no worry of degradation.
Has anyone noticed a trend here?! My question arose from my ex-wife commenting on it and her friends agreeing with her. That's not to say her friends agreed with her comments but you know how some people are and these are those types. But on this forum most of the women have been on the side of carrying protection and playing it safe, and most of the men have been against it and considered the behaviour lewd. Funny. I won't state the obvious here.
Joebury2004, I don't like to rely on an STI test because many STI's have a latency period before they appear in the system or show symptoms. And unless she got the test today and has proof she hasn't slept with anyone in the past 6 months then I find it rather uneasy to just take the test at face value. HIV can take up to 6 months to enter the system. She could have had sex ONCE 5 months ago with someone she thought she knew and trusted and given you her test results showing a clean bill of health only for you to contract the disease. And the worst part? When she finds out the next month or whenever you'll have to sit and wait for your test results for 6 months now too, stirring and freaking out! I'm not willing to bank on that, sorry. Condoms aren't failsafe but they are better than an STI test for the most part. Herpes will get transmitted regardless but I'd HOPE the person would say something prior. I've had a girl tell me prior to it anything happening and I didn't go any further. I wasn't really into her by the third date anyway but this just sealed the deal for me. If I REALLY cared about the girl and wanted to make it work I'd look past it and protect myself adequately.
I don't have sex with a girl unless I plan to either. But my planning doesn't consist of days or weeks. It may only be a few hours before, or even a few minutes before. If I'm going on a first date and I have no idea what to expect I'm not planning on having sex. But if I get there and the chemistry is through the roof and we can hardly keep our hands off each other at dinner it's likely entering my mind as it's likely entered hers. And what if she plans to have sex and you don't think of it beforehand? Then you are stuck without a condom and with a blown opportunity, pardon the pun! LOL In my eyes it just pays to be prepared and to be safe. I'm usually dating someone at any given time so in my eyes I COULD be having sex anytime the moment arises with that person. I date rather casually right now, usually exclusively but they aren't overly serious.
And I don't ever plan to have sex without a condom. I'm ultra fertile. Some might say I'm blessed but I've got the storybook children (boy and girl) and that's all I want. So now it's a hindrance! LOL I'm slated for a vasectomy but even after that unless I'm in a serious relationship I'll still demand condoms. And with someone I was seriously committed to I may even suggest using them if she didn't mind. A lot of women don't mind condoms. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 1:14:40 PM | well thats good to know!
I guess a polygraph test must be done too lol
Yea i wish our world would stop be so promiscous and polygamous, people should really just try to stick with one really great partner instead of sleeping around. Plus sex is better whne you've been with someone awhile | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 2:49:01 PM | Last time someone found out that I had a habit of carrying a condom around most of the time I got called a Hero. As in: "Dude... she wants me to go back to her place, and uhm... I'm not prepared." "Flavoured or Lubricated?" "You're my Hero."
Remember: Friends don't let Friends become Daddies with Bar-Stars.
I think we've covered that a condom that's been in a wallet is only slightly less useful than scuba gear in the desert; don't store them there, it's bad. Yes Deuce, I know you know better now... but some people might have read the original post and skipped to the last page to reply.
I don't know what it is... but it seems like when you least expect to get sex is when you're most likely to end up having it. Like a first date... show up with no expectations and your date is totally turned on by this and has to jump you. I'm wondering if straight up banning it on the first date might be the way to go... or if that would just make it taboo, and suddenly I'm that much more irressistable. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 3:06:07 PM | Joebury2004, I have to say I fully agree with your last statement. While new sex is fun it's so much better when you experience each other. You learn about the other person and it all comes together. I'm going to stop now as this is sounding too heavy and deep. Blech.
Garnet, Ban sex on a first date?! Oh geez. If it's criminal lock me up. I NEVER go into a first date expecting anything or thinking I'm going to have sex. But more often than not it happens. You could be right. Maybe it's that attitude of "I'm not going to ram my junk down your throat" and being honest and confident that turns the lady on more than the aggressive flirting. Who knows what it is. All I know is I have a few friends who strike out A LOT and they are in better shape than me, better looking than me, and more hung than me (by my standards on all three accounts). But I'm more respectful, confident, funny, have more personality, and am more intelligent than they are and I don't strike out much. I hit some foul balls here and there and the ball boy best beware, but I make contact. So you may have the beginnings of a good theory here!
And I've been there too where a buddy is leaving the bar with a girl and asks if you've got a rubber and when you whip it out he almost seems like he wants to take you home instead! LOL | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 7:35:00 PM | Well. I was caring around condoms because my nurse friend gave them to me. Boy, a couple of times they fell out and business meetings and in front of coworkers or somebody. Embarassing.
Nothing wrong with being prepared, instead of going through with it in the heat of the moment. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/6/2008 9:07:54 PM | | I was part of a bachlorette party and one of the games had cards with points for finding things.. one card said "have a guy give you a condom." I couldn't find one man with a condom in the entire bar. Finally a girlfriend handed one to a guy we knew so she could have him give it to her for the points. The next day talkin about it we found it kinda sad / scarey how unprepared the guys were. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/7/2008 5:50:18 AM | Doouglas, If carrying them to work would make a person a whore, so to speak, if the woman just has it in her purse and you two hook up aren't you calling her the whore now? That's a little disrespectful, isn't it? It's also irresponsible to expect her to have it.
Playfulgal, That seems to be a common one on the Bachelorette Bingo. I think out of all my guy friends I'm the only one that carries one too. Even the guys that go to the bar hoping to find a hookup don't bring one! When I question it they just say they'll buy one in the bathroom if they need it but usually the moment heats up and they leave the bar. It's a good thing I don't have many of these friends anymore! | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 2/7/2008 4:36:13 PM | "Thats like someone calling you a p***y for wearing a seatbelt."
When i was a kid in the 1970s, seatbelts weren't a requirement...now they are part of the law in defensive driving. :)
If you want safe sex, carrying a condom is fine....don't worry about what the others think...it's none of their business. | |
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| Why does carrying protection on my person at all times make me a whore?! Posted: 3/2/2008 9:32:56 AM | | Do you want to know the percentage of people that even when carrying condoms everywhere and "using them" get infected with STDs of HIV? 9.9% Scary isn't it. Condoms might break, you might not use the correct size or they might slip away, or, in the heat of the moment you just keep on going with out it! DO NOT PLACE ALL YOUR CONFIDENCE IN CONDOMS!!!! | |
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