| Aliens and GOD's existence
Posted: 1/6/2008 6:48:58 AM | I don't know. I am keeping my thoughts open aboot it.
I have seen Capricorn 1, and it is a good film. There is also a cheeky lil reference to the 'hoax' in Diamonds Are Forever.
There is a lot of toing and froing, and really the scientists can talk up a storm either way. WE don't have a telescope to prove it either way at the moment, if it comes it comes.
I do feel though that if it was a hoax, then surely the Soviets would have known/figured it out and told everyone?? | |
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| Aliens and GOD's existence
Posted: 1/6/2008 6:57:28 AM | As previously posted, the telescope should be available in the next 18 months which will allow us to see the moons surface, we have not had the technology to do this till now..
Waiting for a boffin to tell us all more 
I think as said before it is french..as for the Russians disproving, how could they  think about it .. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 6:59:34 AM | http://www.fotosearch.com/video-footage/moon-landing.html
quite comical really.
Although in 1969 everyone was running round trying to find the money to buy a TV so they could watch this. The resources, technology and understanding within society was limited. Nowadays it is so see through, because we have the access to a lot more things. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 7:03:41 AM | We can see the Moon's surface now, there is just not enough detail:D. And like I posted earlier, if it comes it comes, we will simply have to wait and see if the resolution of the French one can accomplish this.
And how could the Russians not disprove? Do you think the Soviets were all asleep that night, or do you think they were tracking every movement, every radio signal like hawks? Think aboot it.
For those of you interested in the arguments, here are some pages
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Moon_Landing_hoax_accusations
http://primeline-america.com/moon-ldg/
I have looked at this question for a long time. Once I had the opportunity to ask Patrick Moore why there were no stars in the pics, he said it was because of the brilliant light from the sun. | |
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| Aliens and GOD's existence
Posted: 1/6/2008 7:21:17 AM |
quite comical really.
Even more comical where the special effects used on film sets etc around 1969 .......such fakery would not have been possible as with the sound effects of that time !!
There is more evidence to suggest this event "did" take place than the self sustaining conspiracy theory arguments we see here that it "didnt" !!
The resources, technology and understanding within society was limited.
However the information has been in the public domain for 30years in the form of photographs, images of spacecraft taken by astronauts in other spacecraft as well as images of the spacecraft heading towards the moon by telescope from the Earth, video records broadcast in real-time and seen in real-time, scientific experiments placed on the moon (whose placement was clearly documented by the lunar photography including still photography by the astronauts and video images transmitted in real-time), moonrocks and samples returned from the surface of the moon which support the supposition that they resided on the Moon (by examining the chemical makeup of the rocks, isotopic abundances, cosmic ray exposure ages, radioactive dating techniques, etc.), and by the astronauts themselves both in situ on the lunar surface and after their return to Earth.
When I was a child, my nanna would say that we would all be living on the moon
Hmmmm........She may have had a point there !!
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Posted: 1/6/2008 11:31:20 AM | I dont think that man is travelling anywhere until they solve the problem of solar radiation beyond the Van Allen belt, which it is believed will cook anyone without layers of lead protection ..
Yeah... i've heard that too. Not sure what to make of it though. It seems to be the conspiracy theorists who keep banging on about it when putting across their (in my mind (and i'm asking for trouble)) misguided argument re. man not landing on the moon. I'm not sure man has landed on the moon... i do believe we did though (slight difference but saves an argument)
Oh... didn't the russians have a "size me graph thingy" on the moon when Appollo 11 landed? | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 12:14:04 PM | There is no doubting that spacecraft have been to the moon , and landed there - I think that the Soviets have recovered samples of moon rock by robot - but whether there was any astronauts in those craft is the question ....
seismagraph ? | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 12:28:15 PM |
Do you think the Soviets were all asleep that night, or do you think they were tracking every movement, every radio signal like hawks? Think aboot it.
They could have slept like babies, they did not have the technology to listen to anything other than what they were allowed too..or what was broadcasted .. but I will agree that something might have landed...but it was not human..
Just my thoughts and opinions on the debate at hand .. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 12:52:52 PM | I don't know what you mean by allowed to. But I think it highly unlikely that they did not monitor everything, from tracking the rocket into space, from listening to the radio signals and where they came from.
I don't know whether humans landed on the moon or not, the verdict is still out for me since there has been no killer blow by either side to the others position, it's still opinion. If a telescope that has that magnifying ability does get created then I shall await it's reports with interest...if it ever gets pointed at the right spot. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 12:55:07 PM | | If there really were Aliens out there, wouldn't they have made contact before now? Earth ands man has been aorund for billions of years.. so where are they...... | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 1:23:42 PM |
Earth ands man has been aorund for billions of years.. so where are they......
not quite Bette ... the current theory is that the Earth is about 3.6 billion years old, whereas Man has only been around somewhere between 100,000 to 250,000 years (early man ) but that is currently in dispute .. Whatever , we have not been around too long .
Homo Sapiens (us) has been around only about 20,000 +- years but no-one has found the missing "link" between us and our ancestors ... maybe aliens have been here before , maybe the missing link is alien intervention / experiment / cross breeding etc ...?? This is a theory put forward by some . It would explain the sudden arrival of homo sapiens, but it is a way out theory ... see ealier posts about Old Testament | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 1:27:20 PM |
If there really were Aliens out there, wouldn't they have made contact before now?
Maybe they have, who says we'd know about it if they had done? Governments probably think we're too fragile to know that these kinds of things have happened ( if they have ), or use that as an excuse for keeping quiet about it. There are quite a few possible reasons why 'we' wouldn't know. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 1:31:23 PM |
If there really were Aliens out there, wouldn't they have made contact before now
Nanoo Nanoo..........Mac calling Mindy .....Shuzzzzzzbut !!! | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 1:37:40 PM |
There are quite a few possible reasons why 'we' wouldn't know.
I think we should be told! | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 2:02:47 PM |
Homo Sapiens (us) has been around only about 20,000 +- years but no-one has found the missing "link" between us and our ancestors ... maybe aliens have been here before , maybe the missing link is alien intervention / experiment / cross breeding etc ...?? This is a theory put forward by some . It would explain the sudden arrival of homo sapiens, but it is a way out theory ... see ealier posts about Old Testament
Read the right books and they'll say homo sapiens are a lot older, going on more than 100,000 years.
I think Genesis to the Sphinx is a good one. | |
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Posted: 1/6/2008 2:22:11 PM | Slightly off topic, here's an interesting film which is more about religion than aliens.. oh, and also 9/11.
http://www.vydi.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=118&title=zietgiest_the_movie
It's almost 2 hours long though.
K, I'm off for a cruise in my vimana. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 5:14:12 AM | | Homo sapien bones have been unearthed from all around the globe in rock which is 50 million years old !!! Look up forbidden archeology on gootube or similar | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 7:49:28 AM | I reckon they probably did studio reenactment as astros all fighting to be in pic on moon, so just looked like a foggy frame. Photo of earth done same time? Resonates with me. Considered most profound C20 image. All Victorian technology anyways.
I am as old as the universe atomically speaking.
Star dust x (c x c) = mE! And you!
(Einstein's equation Energy = mass times speed of light squared on non scientific keyboard so's you realise I haven't lost the thread)
And I have a reptile central cortex! (Ikes!) but.........nah. Agnostic, hope there is and are though, reverberations throughout.
Just another thought.. maybe they are bribing our lot to keep em schtum. Hense all the desire for mountains of 'monay'?
Imagine!
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Posted: 1/7/2008 10:21:55 AM |
seismagraph ? Seismograph actually? But anyhoo... I get your point about "were the spaceships manned or not?" I guess we won't know for certain until we can see the footprints, though i suspect the conspiracy theorists will then tell us that the robots were wearing boots | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 10:30:51 AM |
Seismograph actually
sorry, me spill chucker was not wirking ...
I'm waiting to see the flag - if its still up then i might believe it ... | |
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| Aliens and GOD's existence
Posted: 1/7/2008 12:45:38 PM | | You can see the flag.. in way anyway. They left a panel to which they bounce a laser off to measure the distance from the earth to the moon. The experiment is still running 35 years on. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 1:48:21 PM | I'd prefer to see a proper pic of it thanks;)
Homo sapien bones have been unearthed from all around the globe in rock which is 50 million years old !!! Look up forbidden archeology on gootube or similar
I did look at the site, but it wants to sell me the book or other stuff. Do you recommend it? | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 6:48:15 AM | Try youtube.... hidden history of the human race by michael cremo.
whether you believe them or not its still fascinating | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 10:45:22 AM | Aliens DO exist.
Our Planet is one of billions, upon billions, not only in our Galaxy, but in the millions of Galaxies outside of ours. To think that Earth is the only planet in the entire Universe (bare in mine the Universe is a bloody big thing) is ludicrous.
I have no doubt that Aliens do exist. I just question whether they've actually come along to Earth. From the point of a technologically advanced Alien species, what possible purpose would they have to visit a backwater planet such as Earth?
In regards to Area 51, the US Government says it doesn't exist. The general global population knows otherwise (hell, if you go to Google Earth, you can have a look for yourself). The question is not whether Area 51 exists or not, the question is what goes on there.
If it has nothing to do with Aliens, then there is a good chance there is something else going on... Maybe a secret weapons testing or something?
As for God. Alike Aliens, he can't *actually* be proven. Aliens can be theorised (because of what I've noted above), God cannot. God is all faith, whereas Aliens are more factual thinking. I'm not saying God doesn't exist, I don't know, he might, he might even be an Alien (advanced being or something, the Bible doesn't say he didn't come to Earth on a Space Ship). | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 11:45:14 AM | Hi , this is not just to you ,but to all who dont understand the concept of God ( as depicted by many faiths )
ALiens are not a species named 'aliens' .People are calling all beings they do not know about outside their own world 'aliens '.
The truth is WE homo sapien are not the only beings ever to exist throughout the universe and beyond .
God who ever he is ,maybe a being from a race or species far more powerful and advanced then us civilized ( ha ! ) humans Him himself being called an alien !
I am a christian ,but I am also intersted and respect other faiths and beliefs.In the scriptures it God refers to himself as 'us' and 'our ' and 'we' suggesting he is not alone .
Man was created in his ( or our ) likeness ,but before that there were Domions in the heavens - They included other beings such as Angels ,who are a species ,as are Demons ,as are Humans .
If any thing Aliens and God just confuze and scare people who dont want to think about their own invinsibility and truely believe and trust that the human race with all its stupidity and self destructive ways are the supreme rulers of the universe .
Pls open minds a bit , read Eric von danniken books ,read some christian books u didnt even know existed ...good luck for 2008 to all ...its interesting stuff kx | |
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