| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/5/2008 9:36:12 AM |
My point was and still is this - everyone on the road needs to take more care, car drivers and bike riders.
Completely right ST!
You get car drivers blaming bikers for accidents that occur and vice versa.
Mind you, it is mainly bikes that you see darting in and out of tiny gaps in traffic weaving in and out of spaces that they can just about fit through at high speeds... | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/5/2008 9:42:07 AM | All accidents happen because two parties are not paying sufficient attention to the road.
What an absurd thing to say ^^^^^^^^
Oh do excuse me, but the guy that ploughed into me from behind was indeed my fault aswell? Now I know where I was going wrong, and it must be my mistake that he was found to be fully to blame and thats why I received compensation. | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/5/2008 9:46:15 AM | All accidents happen because two parties are not paying sufficient attention to the road. What an utterly stupid statement! Oh do excuse me, but the guy that ploughed into me from behind was indeed my fault aswell?
I have no idea in your circumstances as I obviously don't know them. The way people drive certainly has cause and effect implications to the traffic behind them as well as infront.
A friend of mine once drove into the back of a car that had pulled onto the right hand side of the road. Believing the car to be parking, he made as if to carry on driving normally, the car suddenly swerved back onto the left hand side of the road to enter a driveway. No indication was used nor was the other car's movement done in one continuous sweep which would have given implication as to what he was about to do.
But yes you are partially right, I do apologise; being rear ended can sometimes be definitely one sided.
EDIT : VVVVV
As can someone pulling out of a side road
I disagree; you cannot put your car in the path of someone elses if you are paying proper attention. If you come out of a side road into the path of another vehicle expecting other traffic to move out of your way, that is not proper attention. And if you are travelling so fast past a junction that you cannot take avoiding action in the event of something pulling out, then again that is not proper attention.
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/5/2008 9:55:39 AM |
being rear ended can sometimes be definitely one sided
As can someone pulling out of a side road which happened to me, because the silly mare wasn't paying attention at all. As can someone reverse parking all the way down the side of your car because they didn't check their mirrors.
There are loads of ways that only one person can be responsible for an accident ....
All accidents happen because two parties are not paying sufficient attention to the road. .... absurd! | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/5/2008 10:22:21 AM | All accidents happen because two parties are not paying sufficient attention to the road
Oh perrlease... this is without doubt the biggest load of crap you have put on this thread, and you have put loads on it.
Not all Road traffic collisions (not called road traffic accidents anymore as the word accident alludes to the fact that nobody is at fault which is clearly wrong) are down too 2 parties not paying attention, in fact the large majority of them are caused by 1 party and totally unavoidable by the others involved.
Be it running into the back of another car, bad positioning , bad observation the list is endless, but to say its down too 2 parties each time... totally fookin priceless  | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/5/2008 12:19:48 PM | omg where do you start ....
ok posts 30,32,50
Do you acually read what you write before posting?
Tell me do you solely pick on Motorcyclists ( or in your term power rangers ) yes the clothing may be a bit garish but guess what You saw them didn't you ? Yes my clothing is black as i prefer it but if i deem the circumstances need it i will don the old Hi Vis and i dont care if i look like a flying banana at least i know i have a better chance of making it to my destination.That is the point of them being colourful is a: personal choice and b:Visibility....
I bet you are also the ones who go on about LGV's being slow or cutting lanes on a roundabout.
Unless you have experience in all types of vehicles please limit your posting to things which you know full well are accurate.
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All accidents happen because two parties are not paying sufficient attention to the road
So when i stopped at a Junction (joining the a4 in Chiswick) in my car and applied the handbrake and released the footbrake to wait for a clear spot to go into, a few seconds later i had someone trying to park their car into mine i was to blame ???
Their first words were Oh i thought you were moving >>>> why because i was not showing an sign of being stationery apart from being at a junction with heavy traffic crossing in front of me,
Or how about when i was 18 on a bike came around a bend on a downhill slope with limited visbility to come across a car with a boat on a trailer reversing out of the driveway with no thought to anyone else on the road all i can say is thank god i was dressed like a power ranger..
Probably a bus driver as they are the best "smidsy's" out there...
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/5/2008 1:00:28 PM | ok back to topic hmmm i doubt if i am classed as middle aged ( well if its 64 omg i got lots to do not much time ) i have just back into riding after a 14 year break and have ummed and arghed about posting a picture of me on it etc but i always think that it seems a bit tacky as to say look i have a bike aren't i a stud muffin and plus i have no pictures of me on it anyway ( well depends on if i receive any in the next 14 days or not :P ) but i think as some have mentioned that it is a part of your life so why should it not be included but i do suppose it does depend on the picture if it is of a bare chested short wearing flip flop owner sat astride their R1 then that does send that image ( apologies to anyone with this style of picture) but if it is from a meet/rally or a general here's my bike and me picture as in normal use leathers on ( minus helmet allowed ) etc then that does say im a biker and proud of it but as some others say if it is a picture that does nothing for the person then NO too much cow has been wasted for that one...
my reason for getting back into it :
A :finances allow me
B:has been on my to do list
c: pure enjoyment | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/7/2008 6:13:32 AM | "That is the typical attitude of a cage driver who has not ridden a bike."
"Interesting assumption. Completely wrong, but interesting nonetheless "-
No completely right and you are showing the exact same traits as the fore mentioned blinkered car driver.
Actually the attitude of bikers who think that car drivers are to blame for all their accidents is what kills bikers - Read the statistics and weep.
Clearly you are one of the typically retarded ones with a superiority complex, rather than realising that both parties can be just as much to blame.
Both parties are not ususaly to blame - again read the stats. Do not slander the brightside and call him retarded this is a comment that will get you throw off POF and I think he deserves to have a superiority complex as he is deffinatley superior to you! I think his road use will deffinatley be superior to yours as is most bikers road use much more superior due to teaching and vunerablity of bike riders.
"How about slowing down and taking a bit more care?" - every time I have been hit it has been at slow speeds behaving as highway code states - mmm read statitsics again before throwing ludicrus comments
"Yes, that would be the one where the biker is travelling too fast for the conditions. " tell that to the DSA now you realy have made yourself look like a bike hating idiot
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/7/2008 6:23:13 AM | So how many cars were driving appropriatley when most bikers got hit by cars - statisics again show that it is down to the car driver hence the adverts by the government - der
Yes the DSA do agree about the car drivers having to do a CBT ( I know as I spoke to the CBT section MissSelf) but as usual they have to set up 5 years of meetings to discuss. They don't think it is a stupid idea eother.
So again shot down in flames haa haa!
I just didn't see you = I didn't bloody look in the first place.
So I take it that San Toki thinks his unfactualy based opinions are right and the governement,DSA, BSM, ROSPA, etc are all wrong?? | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 1/7/2008 7:53:13 AM | Well before I am seeming to spout on (being a car, bike and truck licence holder) I have taken the time to read all of the posts on this subject, and San Toki, you are far from being right my friend, the only thing that you have said that makes sense is that we all need to take better care on the road!
Yes bikes can be quick, and are rideen by all sorts of people with different abilities of all ages and races, and yes there can be some bad ones out there, but I can assure you that ALL bikers are more vonurable than nearly any other road user, and they know it! Bikes are far more manouverable than cars or trucks, and can easily cope with double of todays speed limits, espeially on braking distances slashing them in half in fact, as do a lot of cars are doing now.
I'll tell you why I don't brake before a junction shall I, when I brake then the rotational force that changes dips the front of the bike down, assisted by weight transfer. When this happens our headlights dip down, finish braking and they pop back up again, Hmm would the driver at the junction think that you have just flashed him out I wonder???
I be typing this all day, but I wanted to set a couple of points right, not by just my opinion, but by fact, by a very experianced road user in all vehicles.
Please, everyone take care out on the roads and pay attention more, put that phone down, don't play with the stereo. Look what we ALL are doing, then there would be nothing to moan about, would there? | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 3/23/2008 4:50:28 PM | allways had a motorbike since i was 14, have a garage full still, from a harley down, old m.g. its part of who i am
used to shoot regularly at bisley and coach kids at a rifle club for a few years also part of who i am
what would you girls prefer, a boozer/gambler/abuser, the list is endless | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 3/24/2008 1:49:01 AM | Well said Mate. We are all different.
I didn't have a motor bike till I was twenty seven, by that time I had long left the nest. My father would not let me have one when I was younger. I wasn't till Years later That I got my first bike, and that was for economics, and because I fancied one. I wanted to catch up on what I had missed as a youth.
Since that time I have had, several, and at present I have two bikes, one for rallies, the other for around town, I also own a Vespa scooter, which was used for work.
There is a phrase, which comes to mind for the origintor of this thread, and that is.
Get A Life. . I would also suggest the Lady attends some of these bike rallies, If it doesn't open her eye,s then nothing will | |
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Posted: 3/24/2008 2:24:50 AM | My dad has been riding bikes since I was 5 year old. He's not middle-aged but a senior now with motorbike. I grew up going to motorcycle rallies every summer.
There is a bit of a lifestyle often associated with those who love to cycle which include road trips on the bike, camping trips taking the bike, going to rallies with the bike etc. I can see a guy putting it in his pic just out of pride of his baby and wanting a woman who appreciates that his motorbike comes with him....don't expect him to get rid of it just because you came with a sedan.
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Posted: 3/24/2008 2:26:48 AM | | i have had a motorbike since i was 17...what it does for me,big adrenelin injection..open air..wind in my face..overtaking you boring metal cage drivers and most pleasing of all filtering past all you expensive car driving people stuck in a motorway traffic jam...lol | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 3/24/2008 8:23:51 AM | The Answer to your Dilemma Taylor 50. dont post threads that you cant handle . a bit like pandoras box. the old sayings are still true, If you can't stand the heat stay out of the Kitchen. Not all of us are posers there are a lot of genuine bikers, out there. I would respectfully suggest ,next time you wish to post, engage brain before posting. then you wont get so much flak.
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 3/24/2008 9:43:06 AM | I love my bike, rode one for years and love the feeling of getting out on my own (or with a pillion) and doing what i want with no restrictions that a car has, i.e stuck in traffic !
Some people hate bikers, some bikers hate cars, its a hup ho world and we all have to live on it and live with it. I drive a car too, abliet the three wheeled variety, four wheels to me would be like selling out man ! | |
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Posted: 3/24/2008 1:08:49 PM | | If riding a bike is a source of pleasure in your life then its only fair to let other people know this,because there are people out there who dont like bikes and would never get on one.And what easier way to let them know than post a pic of it! A bike is just a means of getting around but it gives you the"grin factor" from the moment my bum is on it til a few minutes after i get off,i'm grinning.Its a mode of transport,a hobby, cheaper to run than a car, and unless you have an Aston Martin a lot more fun. | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 3/24/2008 6:55:01 PM | I have one to make up for my very small penis 
course thats not true I am hung like a bear (Koala not Polar)
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| Middle aged women and their insecurities
Posted: 3/31/2008 5:03:33 PM | | Has any other men noticed how many middle aged women have pictures of themselves with their wine bottles? Now..maybe I am totally wrong, but, is this some kind of female thing you have to replace men? or are you trying to relive your youth.? Or is this just a Big girls toy thing? | |
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| Middle aged women and their insecurities
Posted: 4/1/2008 4:36:19 AM | When a car driver says "I didn't see you" that is not an excuse
It is an admission of guilt -end of .
Hehe, and I'm the blinkered one. lol.
What if the full statement is "I didn't see you because you were going too fast" ?
Is it then all the car driver's fault?
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I just picked up on this comment .
"I didn't see you because you were going too fast" ?
eh how do you know I was going too fast if you didn't see me ? Bit of a toe jam there .
I have recently upgraded my bike from one that goes 60 mph to one that goes 160mph
and it is definitely safer to have the more powerful bike . | |
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| Middle aged women and their insecurities
Posted: 4/1/2008 7:15:58 AM | I deffinatley agree with you there Malcom, I found I could get out of a lot more potential smashes with a more powerful bike.
I just didn't see you = I didn't bother to look as I think I am a Jedi or something or I have been driving for so long I'm too good to have to double check.
The DSA even made a video for trainees entitled "I just didn't see you" and even the theme tune is still in my head. This was made to show how ignorant some drivers are towards motorcyclist - just to make the trainees aware, even though it is the car drivers fault we are still the ones with broken limbs (if we are lucky) and a completley ruined piece of fantastic machinery. The car driver however, generaly is able to have a cup of tea and a relax whilst the motorcyclist is carted off in an ambulance.
Car drivers that don't think about what they are saying, is the same as those car drivers that don't think to look and check their blind spots you know that over the shoulder check thing?!?! takes a second and might just save a whole lot of hastle and maybe someones life.
But then due to the ignorance my words will probably not be taken much notice of. 
And actualy I've never seen or heard of an accident due to a biker "traffic dodging" , we are allowed (it is in the highway code) to travel down the side of stationary traffic in ques, the DSA call it making progress, something all the car drivers that coast up to traffic lights and round corners may what to get some training for. | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 4/3/2008 12:06:54 PM | | Yes, its like women and poodles - then again who cares, my mid life crisis involves learning slalom tricks on roller blads! Don't get much more sad than that. But then again why do we need to conform? | |
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| Middle aged men and motorbikes
Posted: 4/3/2008 12:11:56 PM | | Re: Accedents. Aparently they are not called accidents anymore, they are called collision events, because they are always someones fault - just ask the insurance companies! | |
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