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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/2/2008 11:42:35 AM | I dunno about this one - but I have a good friend who always says, "You can't turn a ho into a housewife!" Seems like good advice to me! 
Mark
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/2/2008 11:46:59 AM | | women that prostitute for their kids a hero ???? that statement makes me sick!!!!!!!!BULL ****RING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been a single mom for yrs and had to survive and never once ever thought of becoming a hooker to do it! if she would think of her kids that would never cross her mind unless she just doesn't give a shit and like to spread her legs! | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/2/2008 12:00:32 PM | interesting take here.. my thought is do you know any personally? my thought would be no you dont so you pre-judge typical now days...
It could be the lady in line behind you
The preachers wife
the lady pushing her child on the swings at the park
the lady at the bank
hell it could even be your mother...
women have many reasons, and not all are bad for doing the things the do so who are we to put them down, have you ever thought they may not like it themselves but have limited choices?
But will do whatever is needed to provide for the ones they love?
such stupidity.. do they make better wives thats just about the most ignorant thing to comment on.... | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/2/2008 12:08:02 PM | You gots them riled up there Thudpucker
Back in 1886 when I was a soiled dove working the no.10 saloon back in Deadwood ....I would think aww why marry one when there are so many to make miserable???
So back to your question...why would they be any different from any other woman? Like every man knows the sex stops as soon as that ring goes on her finger  | |
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Posted: 1/2/2008 12:39:08 PM | @ Indigo Rose – my bud
Indy, you know that I have never been able to successfully avoid stepping in a pile of doo; I was never taught to tap dance, and besides, I am sort of like a kid in a rainstorm: I can’t resist stomping in the puddles.
What many in the angry mob fail to comprehend is that a comprehensive sociological study, fully-documented to their rigorous scientific standards, is relatively impossible to assimilate.
An informal survey seems much more appropriate. How stupid (inane?) of me to presume the 45,000=/- fishies in the pond might also be appropriate lab rats! Naturally, all the little angels in Canada are excluded and exempt, ‘cause everyone knows that no prostitutes-- active, retired, or dead-- live in Canada.
I sure hope that this isn’t the last controversial issue I can find, but first I need to erect shields to defend myself for referring to these l’il darlin’s as lab rats. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/2/2008 12:40:47 PM | I agree with another poster..........What do you base your theory on?
Have you ever known someone that has worked in the adult industry?
Or are you just a regular customer at the local rub n tug? | |
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Posted: 1/2/2008 1:49:13 PM | it seems to depend on one's social indoctrination that determines how he or she would feel about the person who is employed, and/or was employed, in this particular 'profession'. i would venture to believe that all humans have something going on in their past that could cause someone else to adversely label and thereby contemn them. with that said, i'm hesitant to pass as strict a judgment as you have (i.e., the OP). but i can see how high levels of substance abuse would seem compatible with such a life style. but is this always the case? if the answer is no, then this exception to the rule vitiates your entire argument. with this said, i personally would not feel comfortable with knowing that my wife at one time plied in the 'profession' of prostitution; and thus, i wouldn't even entertain the idea of making this woman in question my wife. this is not because she has done something immoral. it is just to say that this sort of thing is not compatible with my upbringing. and therefore, i wouldn't feel comfortable with such a woman as my wife. but, i wouldn't upbraid her either. i would treat her as a human being who deserves to be respected and thus not denigrated and scorned as you have here done (i.e., the OP).
more importantly, i must ask, are you implying that woman who ply in this profession, and/or have plied in this profession, are somehow thus tainted and therefore unworthy of genuine affection, consideration and human love?
simply put, what is your intent with posting this here thread? are you angry for some reason. because you have spewed some very harsh assumptions and allegations against 'all' women connected to this sort of living. is the issue in you?, or is it in them? | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/2/2008 1:53:02 PM |
Unless they watch Pretty Woman religiously, of course
no but the movie stresses my point ... though prostitution is not honorable in and of its self ...life sometimes throws the honorable into dishonorable situations.... just because we prostitute ourselves does not mean we cannot reclaim a pure heart ....knowing the mechanics of sexual pleasure could make for an interesting sex life for the husband of a reformed /retired prostitute ... give me a sexually experienced woman over a prude any day .... and there are many sexual prudes out there ... and worse fakes.. women that come across as sexually liberated and after you are committed to them just want to liberate you from your sex life | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/2/2008 3:58:58 PM | @ Don Quixote
With all due respect, Don, I am not aware of any judgment I have made, harsh or otherwise, regarding those ladies. In a similar sense, I can categorically state that I have not scorned them or denigrated them, and I have made no assumptions or allegations. Perhaps you can enlighten me by quoting chapter and verse? | |
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Posted: 1/2/2008 4:09:05 PM | and i quote:
I perceive them as:
• Self-centered and self-absorbed,
• Drug-dependant (sometimes alcohol-dependant),
• Immoral,
• Manipulative, and
• Often afflicted with significant emotional or mental disorders.
maybe i misread what you were saying here... do explain for the sake of clarity.
ps.... what of the other questions that i have asked you in my first post?
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Posted: 1/2/2008 4:40:16 PM | What I previously stated, that I perceive them as:
"• Self-centered and self-absorbed,
• Drug-dependant (sometimes alcohol-dependant),
• Immoral,
• Manipulative, and
• Often afflicted with significant emotional or mental disorders."
are well-documented sociological norms that apply to lesser or greater degrees to a broad dimension of that profession.
This statement carries no judgment, scorn, denigration, or assumptions. It is a free standing statement -- generally accepted as fact.
Don > ". . . tainted and therefore unworthy of genuine affection, consideration and human love? "
Those are YOUR words-- YOUR conclusions -- not mine.
Don > what is your intent with posting this here thread?
Adult discussion (on a Relationship Forum), of course! | |
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Posted: 1/2/2008 4:54:56 PM | thudpucker, i tend to cut through the bull. if i have misrepresented you, do forgive me for this. but when one reads your analysis, which as you have now explained was never your actual analysis, one is only tempted to ask from what 'grounds' are you drawing your inferences. in addition, to take refuge under the awning of pure
'authority' seems fallacious to me. that is, you support what you have claimed generically is the 'norm', by saying that this is just general knowledge based upon the findings of these mysterious sociologists. be it the case if it may, but this is a very dubious way of supporting your claim. i was under the impression, based upon your other post, that you had 'intimate' encounters with this type of character presently in question. by 'intimate', i only mean to say that you know them first hand (e.g,. neighbors, associates in Vegas, etc.). nonetheless, i'm not here to challenge you. but if you were to 'objectively' take into consideration how you have here represented yourself, as an educated man, you will see that one can easily draw the conclusions that i have from your earlier posts. notwithstanding, if you feel you are not in the gray, you are at liberty to believe what you conceive to be the case of the matter. and once again, forgive me for not being deceived by the fog. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/2/2008 4:58:13 PM | oh high horse where art thou
oh self righteous ones please show your face
oh -there are so many who open their legs for free
or -for a free meal
or -for a free drink at the local bar
or -for a cheap thrill
or -for their boss
or -best friend husband
or -for their assumed to be boyfriend who dumps them after a month
or -for that rich guy to trap him into marriage cause she's got a baby-bump
or -for who the hell ever they feel like cause they are claiming a womens right to be sexually active.
but when a hooker does it for money...its wrong eh?
personally i am not a virgin therefore i keep my opinions concerning hookers to myself.
you know i'm sure all the female fish (and male fish for that matter) on this site are such good wholesome fishes.
no sex unless they are married right? nuns and all celibate right
oh please,
yeh just keep judging a life you have never had to live.
edit add: most people on this site are prostituting themselves. Can't gt a date in the physical world, go advertise on line. find a guy....in 1 day -9 months -2 yrs take him home. Trying to entice him with your vagina or her with your penis....trying to prove you have the stamina...swallowing Viagra like mm's ,swallowing your birth control like mm's, so that you don't get knocked up from all the screwing.... yeh, hookers are such rotten marriage material.
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Posted: 1/2/2008 5:08:23 PM | Kindacute:
<div class='quote'>yeh just keep judging a life you have never had to live.
Now THAT is a very smart answer....
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Posted: 1/2/2008 5:14:32 PM | Yes it is rather shocking
Someone famous wrote that men want a courtsan when they're 20, a lover when they're 30, a companion when they're 40, a friend when they're 50 and a nurse when they're over 59
And women want?
All of the above plus chemistry? | |
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Posted: 1/2/2008 5:18:50 PM | SHOW OF HANDS:
(And I am not putting a value judgment on prostitution.)
How many people in here know a prostitute on a first name basis? (Gigolos count.)
How many people in here would date either a prostitute or an ex-prostitute?
How many people in here are already dating or have dated either a prostitute or an ex-prostitute?
How many people in here are planning to marry a prostitute?
Gwen counts hands . . . and says, "Yah, that's what I thought. And this thread has relevance to what?" | |
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Posted: 1/2/2008 5:23:39 PM | I have long heard that ex-prostitutes make excellent spouses.
For some men, this is true. These types of men are the ones who cannot get and keep a normal woman, are not intelligent enough for conversation, want to cheat on their wives and know a prostitute will excuse the behavior because she is being kept and paid. I see these relationships all the time. The men get sex and someone to clean the house and bear their children. The women get money, gifts, clothes, holidays. Even though they are married, it is still a prostitution exchange. Love is rarely part of it for both sides. It works for these men though, and it's no loss to normal women who would never consider them to be dating material. The prostitute gets her money. Win-win for all, except the kids, who are a product of a hooker and a john.
• Self-centered and self-absorbed,
• Drug-dependant (sometimes alcohol-dependant),
• Immoral,
• Manipulative, and
• Often afflicted with significant emotional or mental disorders."
are well-documented sociological norms that apply to lesser or greater degrees to a broad dimension of that profession.
I support you on this comment and I think others are getting upset because they frequent prostitutes themselves and don't want to hear that others find it to be pathetic.
No little girl dreams of growing up and sucking c*cks of old ugly fat guys for a living I assure you. There is damage in someone's life if they do this for a living. Maybe they grew up in a bad home, were abused, raped, had little education and opportunity, etc. I have met a lot of prostitutes in the course of my travels and the ones who are engrained in the profession are self-centred -- they have to be. They are tough and out to get their money and will definately manipulate many men to get as much money as possible. Many times they need drugs and alcohol in order to f*ck so many guys, and sometimes they fall addicted and it becomes a vicious cycle. They are damaged women and most of the time it is a damage that can never be fixed, so all those men who think they will marry and "save" the whore are highly mistaken and disappointed later when their wife keeps hooking or is cheating with a better looking and younger man. Sex no longer has emotional meaning to these women, it's just an act for money. If they allow it to be more, they only damage themselves further.
It's a shame to think of someone's life like this. Those men who have mothers, sisters, daughters - would you like the idea of some other guy paying your daughter or mother to suck their c*ck? | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/2/2008 5:27:17 PM | So far the only consistent link is desperation...how does that prepare one for marriage?
Well, I have seen plenty of desperate people that married out of just that.....men and women! | |
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Posted: 1/2/2008 5:28:07 PM | I suppose there are those who would consider a woman accustomed to exchanging sex for support an attractive option.... And there are many who marry for exactly that reason.
And more than a few that have divorced for that same reason!
though prostitution is not honorable in and of its self
And whose judgement is that? Are we basing this on a biblical position or are we applying some set of standards that have not been applied in many countries and cultures far older than ours?
.oO("that should insight a riot!") | |
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