| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/3/2008 12:54:43 PM | In this country, they probably just die of drug overdose, needle infection, customer/pimp abuse, or a depressed and broken heart.
...Except in certain parts of Nevada, where they just might end up rich enough to retire to the bahamas.  | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/3/2008 1:21:35 PM | many if not all of us put our morals aside to some degree ...for many different reasons some worthwhile some not ... but morals do return and then we have to live with what we have done ... others can make this easy or difficult .. so quoting a book that some believe to be all fiction but none the less has many good points
let those among you that have not sinned cast the first stone ... i dare say if we followed this there would be far less rock throwing | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/3/2008 1:53:55 PM | I think it's a bit harsh to group all prostitutes together as immoral, drug-addicted and insane.
Some are.
Some aren't.
Prostitution is a profession born out of extreme desperation and can take many forms. For instance, there are women out there who find themselves sleeping with a guy not because they want to, but because he shelled out major bucks on a date with them or gifts for them, and they feel obligated. That, in my opinion, can be called socially acceptable prostitution.
Most women who are prostitutes do not live good lives and are certainly not on the streets because they enjoy sex. Some of the more desperate ones will sell themselves for a meal.
I don't think prostitution has any corellation with how good of a wife someone would be. I think there are some that would be and some that wouldn't be.
I think judging others for things that we don't fully understand is worse than going out and selling yourself on the street. I'm a college-educated 23 year old girl from a wealthy family, and the idea of EVER having to spread my legs for the rent money is alien to me. Rather than judging, I'd prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt, and although I might say I'd never do such a thing, I've never been driven to do such a thing, and so I can't say. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/3/2008 3:17:43 PM | I think it would be ridiculous to suppose that anything other than a tiny number of prostitutes are prostitutes because they want to be....lifestyle choice.
The problem is..... it's hard to imagine anyone being faced with deciding to be a prostitute who hadn't already made some REALLY poor choices that got them into that position. Yes, you are much less likely to become a prostitute if you are born into a middle class family rather than into poverty, but nevertheless, the idea that there is really no difference between a whore and your average "other person" apart from desparation/upbringing (for no apparent reason other than societal problems) is really quite pie in the sky, IMO. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/3/2008 3:51:51 PM | I got to the bottom of page two and unless I missed something you still have not said WHO you 'long heard' it from. Even if there isn't a scientific study to back up what you heard, I am interested in the sources nonetheless.
My opinions of prostitutes (for better or worse) have nothing to do with it. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/3/2008 3:54:40 PM | | I'm missing something...why would those attributes commonly found in prostitutes make them good candidates for a life partner? I would think the oppsoite...being a hooker probably ruins you, from both the inside and the out...why would anyone want to be with someone so beaten in life? | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/3/2008 8:45:36 PM | @ Deerdog1 Though I condemn prostitution as a lifestyle, I do not condemn prostitutes, and I cast no stones. “There, but by the grace of God (and some important anatomical deficiencies), go I.” I realize that many are forced by negative circumstances in their lifestyle, and I understand that the adverse environment exerts significant psychological influences which could readily invite, magnify, or accelerate instances of substance abuse, behavioral anomalies and traumas.
Given the somewhat incredible ability of humankind to recover from such psychological adversities, I can understand that a substantial percentage of that population could integrate into mainstream society upon retirement from the profession.
@ Rachelmybell I confess to grouping them all as prostitutes, but I did not group them ALL as being immoral, drug-addicted, and insane. See my comments to Deerdog1 above.
@ Next Time Around “Long heard” includes pop psychology magazines, mainline periodicals, guys’ locker room talk, Playboy/Penthouse magazines, guys’ night out conversations, and lifetime knowledge and experience. (There is more to life than beer.)
@ Etched Out I ponder the same question, and my response is this: If someone is capable of recovering from “so beaten in life” as you artfully express, that person is likely capable of almost anything IF they are able to escape the accompanying social stigma. Perhaps the most notable archetypal person that comes to mind is Eva Peron of Argentina. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:06:28 AM | all Im saying is.... hypothetical.... if by some chance I had something that was in demand ....and thats a long shot...if faced with the position where the only way i could see to feed my family or give my kids a education or a chance to not have to make a choice like that ... would i sell my body ? in a heartbeat.
...and in my eyes someone that would make such a selfless choice is a hero ..much better than those living on government assistance ( with no intentions of bettering themselves ) while laying up and sleeping for free with anyone that wants some of it ...and making more kids for taxpayers to feed .JMO...i know a woman that has six kids by six different men a couple of them she is not sure who the father is..the others she dont tell cause welfare is better than child support ...her words.. been married once and been on welfare all her life ..the only thing happens when she has more kids is the check goes up..( if i ever get that hard up i will pay a prostitute before i will visit her ) and yes it has been offered to me ... euuuuu....nasty
......now the other reasons people find themselves in that position ...Drug abuse .... i dont think many young ladies think when they first experiment with drugs ...Gee i think i will get hooked and become a crack whore ... many follow the lead of a guy that they are in love with and think loves them .. then when they are used, hooked and dumped and outcast by their family see no where else to turn ... and then there are those forced into prostitution once they ave done it they have no self worth and not enough self esteem to pull away from it ...aka a form of Stockholm Syndrome....or a pimp whether its a boyfriend a husband or a guy in a pink convertible ...who has them emotionally or psychically scared and trapped ... these people need compassion and help ...not ridicule
would i pay a prostitute for sex ? NO would i befriend a prostitute and try to help her ? damn right would i date/marry a ex prostitute ?if they turned their life around they would be no less and maybe a little better in my eyes as a candidate for a lover/wife ...only because it takes very little character if you are always on the top...but to pull yourself out of the gutter and become someone takes more character than most of us are capable of ...IMO | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:21:10 AM |
(Msg 13) Oh and please do think about where those lips have been, would you really feel like kissing 1000 or more penises?
If I ever date again I’ll be sure to ask the gal if she ever experienced an upset stomach because I sure as hell don’t want to kiss a mouth that was full of vomit at one time.
(Msg 48) No little girl dreams of growing up and sucking c*cks of old ugly fat guys for a living I assure you.
I may not be fat and ugly but I do qualify as old (55) and there’s nothing wrong with my c*ck, thank-you very much! As for growing up and dreaming I don’t think many little girls dream of cleaning toilets or working as a babysitter changing shitty diapers because she has to feed her own child whom society doesn’t give a damn about.
There was an article in the local paper last month about a prostitute who saved $50,000.00 over two years and now she was in university completing her education. I would think she’d make a better wife after getting an education than she would before. Also, after experiencing many different types of men I would think she would be much more capable of recognizing and appreciating a loving and caring one.
(Msg 47) How many people in here know a prostitute on a first name basis? (Gigolos count.)
How many people in here would date either a prostitute or an ex-prostitute?
How many people in here are already dating or have dated either a prostitute or an ex-prostitute?
How many people in here are planning to marry a prostitute?
Years ago, when using a phone dating service, I spoke with a very nice lady. We chatted a few times and she invited me to her place one afternoon to meet. We had coffee and got along quite well. When leaving I asked her if she’d like to have dinner at my place the next evening. She said she’d like that.
When she arrived she was wearing a collar brace. She explained she had problems with her neck and while it was uncomfortable she wanted to honor her commitment for dinner. As the evening progressed she said she had a terrible headache due to the neck injury and felt she should leave. I suggested she stay the night as traveling in a taxi wouldn’t be good for her.
Anyway, the next morning we both awoke and were having coffee in the living room when my neighbor knocked on the door. They had lost their cat. He knew I was living alone and when he saw the lady he gave me a strange look.
Later that day I met his wife on the street. She said her husband knew the lady who was at my place as he used to frequent a bar downtown and she was a prostitute. She wondered why I would obtain the services of a prostitute as there were women in the neighborhood who were interested in me. I told her I had no idea the lady was a prostitute.
Nothing happened between the prostitute and myself and we didn’t see each other again although we exchanged a few phone calls. She didn’t, in any way, appear different than other gals I dated. We just never clicked.
(Msg 69) If a prostitute is good enough for the leader of G-d's people, would it not follow that she's good enough for me?
Looks like that’s the definitive answer. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:35:43 AM | Many women become prostitutes in order to sustain a drug habit, they are in the front rank to give you a choice selection of diseases.
Since prostitution can be well paid, should she give it up to marry you, what will happen if you fail to live up to the livestyle to which shy became accustomed? | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/4/2008 7:43:18 AM | as it has been said very few do it to get rich ...and the money they make usually goes very fast ...as pimps and drugs are very expensive ...but that being said lifestyle =much more than just money or material things ... i know i dont have much money but i have a terrific lifestyle JMO
i have known several prostitutes that ether got out of it or wanted to ... money or lack of it wasent the reasons they left or stayed in the profession ... it was the reason they started it though ...like many other things people get into it and it is not as easy /glamorous as it once seamed..... that is why there is many women out there that have done it at least once and no one will ever know but them | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/4/2008 10:18:43 PM | Then on the other side of the coin, we have the big rollers. Wasn't it Heidi Fleiss who was madame to the rich and famous and the stars of Hollywood?
Some young women think it's a glamours profession to be able to run with rich and powerful men and trade off their services for the life style. Expensive gifts, fabulous trips, hobnobbing with the rich and famous. Not your run of the mill, street hooker down on their luck. That might be a totally different story as to the WHY. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/4/2008 10:29:35 PM | that's a pretty sick notion dude...
although there are certain exceptions that serve to prove the rule...
sex trade workers are invariably sexually exploited in childhood...
damaging relationships from early life into adulthood don't breed healthy marriage partners...
the overwhelming majority are drug addicted...
in and out of jail...
self esteem erodes away to nothing
beaten mercilessly by their handlers and their tricks...
ripped off constantly...
and more...
still...
with years of therapy some will survive...
most die in the streets...
doesn't bode well for a marriage me thinks...
the question really says more about you than anything else...
it's good you put it up there...
kind of a beacon for those who may have been thinking of a date with you...
ya know? | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/5/2008 4:23:03 AM | charred if it was me you were referring to ....well if anyone would not want to date me because i have compassion for the down trodden ...and can understand life is not fair for all and some decisions that people make are because they cant see another choice ...I refuse to believe that no matter how low a person sinks .. they cant redeem themselves ...and if they do they are as good as one that has never done these things ...and i also believe that it is my as well as everyones duty to help these people if they come to the point of wanting help ....if this makes me a undesirable date well id just as soon not date anyone that is too good to date me because of that reason
with years of therapy some will survive...
most die in the streets...
many will survive if just given an alternative ....iv seen it many times ... most want out they just have to be shown the way out | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/5/2008 8:27:19 AM | Since most prostitutes are doing as such to support a drug habit...you'd actually have TWO problems if you go forward w/ a relationship.
And,really,does anybody think a relationship will go well w/ a woman who's only idea for raising money was selling their body?
Unless they were from a poor country?
Prostitutes are probably going have a LOT of baggage.
If you also have a lot...then maybe you'll be a good fit. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/5/2008 8:56:30 AM | many women become prostitutes in order to sustain a drug habit, they are in the front rank to give you a choice selection of diseases Your post makes me GRRRRR...I would think if the woman becomes involved with drugs it is to cope with what she has to do to some of you nasty men. There would not be prostituion if there was not a market. As far as the second half of that sentence.. WHERE THE FAWK DO YOU THINK THEY GET THOSE DISEASES???
Most women are prostitutes to some degree we exchange our body for all sorts of things and reasons be it love or dinner not a pretty fact but a fact none the less.
a male prostitute would go broke unless he was servicing men...men make the sex for trade world go round.
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/5/2008 11:22:35 AM |
Answer to the question posed in the title of the thread: That's like calling contract-killing a prep school for being a good soldier. Good analogy, EligibleRespelled. Thing is, when I thought about it, I realised something:
A prostitute services lots of men, but pays little attention to each.
A wife services only one man, but pays a lot of attention to him.
A soldier kills lots of men, but pays little attention to each.
A contract-killer kills only one man at a time, but pays a lot of attention to him.
It seems to me that a prostitute is more like a soldier, and a wife is more like a contract-killer.
So IMHO, wouldn't that be more like calling the army a prep school for being a good contract-killer?
Then I realised something: a lot of contract-killers are ex-military, because the army IS considered a good prep-school for contract-killing. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/5/2008 1:19:49 PM | I guess it would depend on the ex-prostitute.
Isn't that the case with everything that get's over-generalized?
I've known pro's who were nasty, and some who had hearts of gold. They are people. The funny thing most men don't realize is that they are already detached... it's pretty much a prerequisite in most cases. Most have boyfriends, some have husbands... it's a JOB. It's not an expression of sexuality that they just happen to get paid for, in most cases. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/5/2008 1:30:43 PM |
Most women are prostitutes to some degree we exchange our body for all sorts of things and reasons be it love or dinner not a pretty fact but a fact none the less.
And this is why I have such trouble trusting women anymore. Seriously. I'm 34 years old and it's only the past couple of years that I found this out the hard way. I find it REALLY depressing that THIS is what we're reduced to in 2008. I'm really curious to know what you ladies think about this and most importantly, what are you doing differently to affect a change??? | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/5/2008 1:46:59 PM | | over the years i have known quite a few former prostitutes who marry .... yes they are very manipulative, selfish. and consumed with material wealth...but the men they marry dont care... all they want a woman to do is keep their mouth shut and their legs open....to each his or her own | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/5/2008 3:14:07 PM | Well, I think we are judging harsly. We have not walked in any of there shoes. We should also realise that some people make changes for the good/better. Life is filled with choices. Good ones and bad ones. Surely we have all made both.
Sometimes when all the hhurt and pain is healed the heart of gold shines through....I am a hopeless idealist. Lets go easy....:) | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/5/2008 3:17:46 PM | | It sad how some people talk about prostitutes as if they are some kind of animals. You forget that these are living, breathing human beings. | |
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| Prostitution: a Prep School for Marriage?
Posted: 1/6/2008 3:58:34 PM | | I watched this TV show "Secret Diary of a Call Girl" with Billie Piper. She plays the part of a high class prostitute. She's hot. She can prep me anytime. | |
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