Rhett1
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Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 26 | |
| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 1/5/2008 9:43:40 PM |
in talking to some women,you would get the impression that many women believe their sense of sexuality is more "refined" or somehow superior. Seeing it written this way...yes, you're right. Not that ours is superior, but that many women THINK it is.
I still say, go to a male strip show. You would be shocked at how women act. This is a time when women can behave the way they truly want to without feeling that a man is judging them.
I've been in the regular stripper bar with an ex and I was surprised the first time I went at how "behaved" the men were. I was expecting them to be raunchy and making comments at the very least.
Of course, that takes us back to the argument about women having to seem a certain way, or they get labelled.
Even men do this. Men will call a woman a slut for behaving a certain way, but then expect her to be open to anything if she's with them. It's very confusing at times.
Anyway, I know that men's sexual urges tend to be more out there than a woman's, but I honestly believe that's purely due to what society has told us we have to be.
I believe in the saying "A chef in the kitchen, a lady in the parlor and a whore in the bedroom". Some of us save it up for that special someone (or the for-now guy...lol).
I think I babbled there...did I make any sense? | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 1/5/2008 10:03:13 PM | Seeing it written this way...yes, you're right. Not that ours is superior, but that many women THINK it is.
That was my point all along.I was actually hoping to hear from some woman who believed female sexuality to be superior and one that should be emulated by men.The way some women go on with the "men are pigs" crap,or hear them bemoan,"What ever happened to romance,intimacy and connection?" you would think they believe we're a bunch of depraved beasts incapable of thinking anything beyond sports,beer and boobs.
But then seeing what you ladies go through with the horn dogs and out and out idiots,it's understandable.
I still say, go to a male strip show.
Yes I have witnessed this.I worked A/V for a weekend at a club that featured both male and female reviews.I've heard guys say they get their luckiest with women in these clubs after the show when they allow men into the bar.
but I honestly believe that's purely due to what society has told us we have to be.
I agree only in part.Society can't MAKE anyone anything unless it has the raw material to work with at the start.It's like saying a seriel killer is a product of his environment when guys like Ted Bundy belie that statement.Of course it made for a good excuse when on his way to the electric chair,Bundy told Dr.James Dobson in an interview all about how pornography influenced him to become a seriel killer. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 1/5/2008 10:33:33 PM | I don't think it's better or more refined...and I believe most women don't want men to view it just like us, no matter how we come across..as another poster said..what a lot of us really want is for it not to be so OUT THERE all the time...I certainly want to be seen as sexy by any guy I'm interested in...but, I want him to also appreciate the other things about me..and this part is important to me:
With the same enthusiasm and verbal reinforcement I get for the sexual aspects? To me, it's that they express the sexual part real well, but, it's like pulling teeth to get the other stuff? Which is important to me. It's not that I don't want to be desired in a physical manner..I just want the same intensity about the other things about me that are good? Does that make sense? It just came to me as I was typing this...lol...
I have a visual side as well, but, it's mainly expressed to other women, or gay male friends, not to straight men. That might be sociological, conditioning....or fear of the perception that the man in question might have if I just said to him..."nice ass?'...lol
I think I am just as sexual as any guy, maybe more than some...but, it's part of the big picture, not the driving force...
I don't want men to be other then men, but, I do wish they could see the big picture? | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/18/2008 1:52:42 PM |
Women are conditioned by SOCIETY to not want it (so they say) or they're sluts. Men are conditioned by society to ALWAYS want it, or they're fags. It's all stupid, but humans are social animals, so it matters.
This bothers me.We accept the double standard as stupid,yet we as a society still cling to it like it was Holy Writ carved in stone.Perhaps it's time for a new sexual revolution.Now that we've experienced the old one,we know where we went wrong and where we threw the baby out with bathwater.
I firmly believe that had the sexual revolution played it's way out,without the back lash from conservative,right wing fundamentalism that's brought about a revival of ignorance,men and women would've finally achieved true sexual equality. | |
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ikiera
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Joined: 5/28/2007
Msg: 34 | |
| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/21/2008 2:52:48 PM | I agree with the above poster completely.... such nonsense and shame based issues...
My friend that grew up in Denmark tells me that they are taught to have orgasms in school for heavens sake. Who in North America has their head in the sand! The lotida they put with sex talk and discussion on sexuality is just plain nonsense...
And by the way, my Denmark friend at the age of 17, was having sex outside her house with her boyfriend.... her father yelled out at the top of her lungs to get in the house.... when she came in, he told her she was grounded for being late for her curfew..... then they all sat around and laughed about her exhibitionism the next day at dinner...
What is this world about if we can't be open, without being judged about our desires, whether it be sexuality or WHATEVER! | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/21/2008 4:58:15 PM | For most men, sex is a straight line from A to B. Usually (sadly) there is a very short time period to get from A to B. From the moment he desires it until he achieves it.
For women, sex is a circle. It starts with the moment we wake up, how we are feeling, how we are treated, are we communicated with, are we communicated with properly, is romance introduced into the day at all?
Finally, after all this we (hopefully) return home (and to bed) and if pistons were fired upon all day...we have a charge and the circle is complete! | |
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medana
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Joined: 12/8/2005
Msg: 37 | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/21/2008 7:10:23 PM |
For most men, sex is a straight line from A to B. Usually (sadly) there is a very short time period to get from A to B. From the moment he desires it until he achieves it.
guys r more about 'in-n-out' snacks, we are more about 'gourmet' experiences
I guess that's a fairly accurate way to describe it.Men are generally more linear in thought pattern in everything,whereas women are more circular in thinking.I don't really believe one is better or more "refined",just different as a result of biological and socila evolution.It's up to each couple to decide what each individual needs to modify to insure that their lover is getting the peak experience from the efforts.What I was initially talking about though,was initial attraction.A man's attraction to a woman is more mechanical.Sight and body parts first,and then later the more subtle aspects of the attraction,if he is a man who focuses on that.
In short,men are generally speaking,the technicians of sex and women are more the poets.Both are necessary. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/21/2008 7:19:19 PM |
n short,men are generally speaking, the technicians of sex and women are more the poets.
Both are necessary.
Sorry, but just because some guy calls us "poets" does not mean we agree.
Men are not the technicians, they are little more than a glorified screwdriver.
The chick will make sure the taupe gets the nails where needed.
Bottom line is that yer dancin. If neither man or woman gets it,
we will all be embarassed. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/21/2008 11:23:58 PM |
I don't know of too many women,even discreetly who talk about guys the same way men talk about women.How many women have you heard say,"Did you see the bulge in that guy's jeans,I bet he's hung like horse!" That's because it's not seen as acceptable by society, but it does happen between female friends who don't fear being judged by each other. I have good friends who i would never say something like that too because they woud be horrified (or pretend to be), but i also have a long term friend who i talk about things like that to and much much more!!! Women can be very explicit in their conversations if they don't feel that they will be judged for it (and they often are). | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/21/2008 11:33:32 PM | Women can be very explicit in their conversations if they don't feel that they will be judged for it (and they often are).
I say what I want, when I want. I doubt many HERE would argue that.
I do not give a flying fcuk who judges me.
And I don't always talk like Sex and the City was my alarm clock.
And I am okay with THAT too. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/22/2008 12:03:23 AM | I say what I want, when I want. I doubt many HERE would argue that.
I do not give a flying fcuk who judges me.
And I don't always talk like Sex and the City was my alarm clock.
And I am okay with THAT too
holly heard.the forums are a verbal punching bag for ya today eh?lol.hope you dont see the root of your anger this evening | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/24/2008 6:50:44 PM |
Men are not the technicians, they are little more than a glorified screwdriver.]/quote] Hey cats,not sooo loud!  And I hope all your studs are spaced on 16" centers...  Bottom line is that yer dancin. If neither man or woman gets it,
we will all be embarrassed And to be wise enough to see beyond the forest. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/28/2008 9:31:49 PM | TESTOSTERONE is to a man . . . . .
What EMOTIONS are to a woman
Or estrogen.I often get bashed for polarizing the genders,but it's not my intention.The sexes ARE different,but yes,at the root level we're all people(that sounds sooooo...trite,but it works),but still different.Stereotyping may be unfair and generalizing unscientific,but that's part of the by product of being human.We're naturally devisive and clickish.
In aperfect world,differences should be what makes us cool and,yes for folks to experience this,acceptance is key.Acceptance is,in my opinion a cornerstone for all successful relationships. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/29/2008 10:25:45 AM |
In aperfect world,differences should be what makes us cool and,yes for folks to experience this,acceptance is key.Acceptance is,in my opinion a cornerstone for all successful relationships.
The most valuable thing I have gotten from the forums..is a better ( not perfect, not total) understanding of men, and how they see the world...because, IME, it has been this lack of understanding of each other that leads to most of the disagreements, and misunderstandings between the sexes...about sex, love, everything...
I have been accused in the past, when trying to point out or discuss this inherent differences of doing the same as you, Taurus, generalizing, etc. Never my intent...Obviously, there are people of both genders who have traits/qualities associated more commonly with the other gender.
When I talk about the differences between men and women, it is not to paint everyone the same. To me, it is jut acknowledging that we are different, and that we are supposed to be. For the most part. In a discussion of what is more "common" in the differences, I am trying to promote understanding so that maybe we can all get along again...because, personally, I'm tried of the gender wars, and all the anger.
Acceptance of the differences is the first step, I think, instead of railing against why they are different. I , for one, will never believe that equality means SAME. I like the fact that men are different than me for the most part, even if they sometimes exasperate me ( lol)...it's what makes us "fit". | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/29/2008 2:31:28 PM | [ don't know of too many women,even discreetly who talk about guys the same way men talk about women.How many women have you heard say,"Did you see the bulge in that guy's jeans,I bet he's hung like horse!" ]
you obviously haven't eavesdropped on any all-female conversations then! | |
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