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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 3/29/2008 5:43:27 PM |
don't know of too many women,even discreetly who talk about guys the same way men talk about women.How many women have you heard say,"Did you see the bulge in that guy's jeans,I bet he's hung like horse!" ]
you obviously haven't eavesdropped on any all-female conversations then!
I take great comfort hearing things like this. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 5/21/2008 2:15:54 PM | I like to post the same threads on different forums just to see what difference demographics make.I posted this on a religious forum and got this response from one woman who said,while male sexuality wasn't "less refined" than female,she definitely felt it to be inferior.Here is part of her post.
I don't like male sexuality. I don't like being reduced to the body ratio--a ratio that I can't meet anyway. I don't have the look men want and I don't have the patience with being a sexual placeholder until the guy finds the "look" he wants. However, it is what it is. It isn't a lack of refinement. It lacks heart. It lacks kindness. It lacks brains. It lacks better human qualities that I think would be nice.
I like sex. I like quickies. Sometimes. With men that I have a relationship with. Men who have more than a set of physical attributes. I cannot make love to just a body. Men usually can. Women do not have a set ratio programmed in their brains the way men do. Men do have a mathematical formula in their brains. No, this is not unrefined.
Perhaps "refined" wasn't the adjective I should've used.How many agree with this woman.Why or why not? | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 5/21/2008 6:05:04 PM |
Perhaps "refined" wasn't the adjective I should've used.How many agree with this woman.Why or why not?
Ok..qualifiers first to avoid the bashing thing..no, not all men are alike...
However, IME, many of them are like what the woman you quoted says. As a woman who doesn't and can't ( and doesn't want to) (for various reasons) fit that ratio either, I find the stereotypical view of men and sex pretty dead on in many cases. She seems to have put her finger on what many women are so discouraged about these days with men and dating..their absolute ability to separate a person from their body, emotions from sex, and to not even consider the emotional aspect that many women have ..the apparent lack of heart, kindness or consideration they are capable of? And like her, I don't blame them, nor do I think that they can change their basic biology anymore than I can. However, I do believe they could CHOOSE to take into consideration our feelings on it ( and some do) if they wanted to.
As a maybe un-PC woman...the fact for me is that I just don't enjoy being the stop gap physical body while they look for the "perfect" woman to be more with? I can not separate my emotions from sex. Tried. Just doesn't work for me. I love sex. But, I have never been able to acquire the ability to like it for it's own sake? When I decide to enter a sexual relationship with a man, it is because I already like him, and would like to form a relationship with him.
Many men have no such restraints..and I guess sometimes ( along with women who can do it) I envy them this simplicity..but, most of the time, I just know that it is so much more for me, and these days I almost feel apologetic for it, which is absurd..it is who I am, and it does come naturally.
What strikes me personally about "male sexuality" that I just can't relate to is the apparent ability to think of women as a means to an end, with very little other value.
A poster on another thread today (male) said..men hate women by nature..if they didn't provide sex , they would have no real value?
That is scary. Hurtful. And the kind of male sexuality that just plain is offensive to me?
And unfortunately, in today's times, it seems ( at least if we use POF as a reflection of men in general), more and more seem to feel that way.
Where does that leave women? | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 5/27/2008 5:40:59 PM |
What strikes me personally about "male sexuality" that I just can't relate to is the apparent ability to think of women as a means to an end, with very little other value.
I don't think it puts women into a category where they are useful only as sex.What it does do is categorize areas of life into "compartments".Just because a man may have the ability to enjoy sex without emotional committment or even connection,it doesn't mean he will forgoe monogamy.Sex is NOT a reason for a monagamous relationship,it is a PART of a monogamous relationship.Men pick life mates (not necessarily sex mates)for the same reason women do.Good personality,common interests,common goals,etc.So if a guy is looking for a life partner,it's in his best interest to care and invest in the emotional security of his intended mate.If he's looking for sex only and maybe some laughs,then he needs to be open about that and limit his attentions to those women of like or similar mind.Either Fbuds or hookers,NOT someone else's mate or some woman who he wants to "play" to make himself feel better.
A poster on another thread today (male) said..men hate women by nature..if they didn't provide sex , they would have no real value?
How many guys would say that about their moms or their daughters?Guys who feel this way and act this way are no different from women who are constantly looking to screw over men.Dangerous people who have been jilted and jaded who are out for number one.Has nothing to do with natural sexuality.
Bottom line.Sexuality is an urge inborn in us so that we will procreate.How it is implemented into the genders is a product of evolution.Understanding these differences and working with them is key to relationships,I believe.What will keep a man faithful will most likely depend on how valueable his woman is OUTSIDE of the bedroom and how much of an incentive he has to keep that relationship going.
ere does that leave women?
It leaves women with the same thing it left guys.It leaves women with an awesome,valueable set of commodities to offer a mate and an awesome responsibility to manage those commodities accordingly. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:20:44 PM |
you obviously haven't eavesdropped on any all-female conversations then!
That's part of my point.That in order for a man to witness something like this uttered from a woman's mouth,he must be a fly on the wall at an all female conversation.We complain about equality and this social idiocy still prevails.Go figure. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 5/27/2008 6:28:54 PM | That's part of my point.That in order for a man to witness something like this uttered from a woman's mouth,he must be a fly on the wall at an all female conversation.
Or have a sister who is pretty extroverted. No offense to my sister. I love her.
But she has said stuff when drunk, that I really didn't need to know. lol | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 5/28/2008 1:30:39 PM |
We complain about equality and this social idiocy still prevails.Go figure.
I don't know taurus...I'm one of those women who doesn't believe "equal" means same? I have no desire to be just like men, or conversly them just like me, sexually or otherwise. The only equality I ever was concernced with had to do with civil rights, choices, and not being treated as a second class citizen...no where did I ever desire to be just like a man? I want to be treated fairly in the civil world...I don't want to act like a man in the romantic one? What would be the point?
Most women ,in my age bracket at least, would find that kind of talk inappropriate in male company they weren't close to..plus, there is a reason we talk to other women about those things..
I see nothing wrong with being "ladylike", or having more traditionally female qualities, it that is how I feel..and I prefer men who are more traditionally masculine...however, that doesn't mean that I can always relate to how they approach sexuality..and maybe we are supposed to be different in that area? If not..why not choose homosexuality? | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 5/28/2008 6:03:47 PM |
I want to be treated fairly in the civil world...I don't want to act like a man in the romantic one?
But unfortunately the worlds overlap and "stuff" spills over.It creates a riff and a barrier between the sexes that would not have otherwise existed.People get sued for sexual harrassment over the way they're greeted in the morning.The genders are once again confused over how they are to manage themselves both professionally and personally.
Not to mention it perpetuates a stupid double standard that's unfair to both sexes.I don't want people to ever become gender neutral and I'm not suggesting that offices allow men to keep a Playboy or Hustler centerfold in their office cubicle for the whole company to enjoy,but nothing is ever going to change or progress if we all don't practice a bit of acceptance on everyone's part.Differences are cool,they should be embraced and accepted. | |
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| Do you really believe female sexuality is more refined than male?
Posted: 5/29/2008 2:27:52 AM | It would really depend on a persons upbringing. This could apply to a male or a female. Some families are very conservative about sex while others are not. If a man was raised in a family that never talked about sex and shunned it, then he might be repressed in this area. If this man were to meet a woman that lived in a family that was very sexually open then she might be more open about sex than him. I think with each generation women are becoming more sexually open and expressive but we still have some catching up to do.
Women are emotional beings and relate to sex in this way whereas men are visual beings. I don't think that one is more superior to the other, just different. | |
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