| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/2/2008 11:13:37 PM | It depends on the level of "fake" in the picture. If someone has just done some touching up (removing blemishes, smoothing skin, so forth...) then it can be pretty difficult. The best way to check that is (as someone has already said) to check the density of the pixles on the person's face as opposed to the density of the pixles in the background. Was density the right word? Hope so...
If someone has actually cut and pasted stuff from picture to picture, then look at the lighting first. If something has been brough into a picture, then there might be a small chance that that object (or person, whatever) is brighter or darker than they should be, if the color wasn't adjusted properly that is...
After that, look at the area directly around the person. Sometimes when someone cuts out a picture, they don't do a very good job and it can lead to discoloration and blurring of the edges of whatever was cut out. Its amazing how often that can happen too, even in "professionally" done things. | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/2/2008 11:17:46 PM | Actually, the last time I heard, Adobe was actually working on a plugin that had the capacity to detect an altered image. Supposedly it is so good that it can even detect alterations down to the pixel. They have been implementing this in their camera raw to detect fraudulent bills. The original story is here, but I am not sure if it is even up there due to the fact that my dial-up sucks and is having a hard time tonight.
http://www.wired.com/gadgets/digitalcameras/news/2007/03/72883 | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/2/2008 11:22:12 PM | There are quite a few ways to enhance any photo or image through Photoshop, Microsoft Photo Editor or even uploading digitial pictures and then editing them through the camera's software program.
The worst one I ever saw was a guy in Penticton who "enhanced" a 15 year old picture of himself by adding a full head of black hair, when in fact he was almost bald. He thought it was quite funny, when in fact it was being deceitful. The joke was on him. 
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 12:25:44 AM |
"How stupid are you anyway? I would put you at about 3, can still funtion in the real world, not much more though, breeding perhaps. Or is this just a way of getting some mail? Just from the looks of your handle, I can surmise how deep and Spiritual you really are."
"Ethical Addict" my butt. Particularly considering your blatant ignorance on the subject (digital photography, AND ethics, for that matter), as other posts attest.
And you had the stones to follow this crap with "don't be cruel"?
What a hypocritical twit.... | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 2:16:57 AM | No way to know for sure.
And even if it is a real pic, it might be 10 years old. :-(
For example, I'm now 66, bald and about 200kg ..... not.
But if they show up and they are different ti their pic, just leave if you want to.
Have you thought about turning trhe question on yourself? What do you think about people maybe being worried if your pic is fake? | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 5:09:17 AM | Excellent thread so far.
Some of us could tell by looking carefully at the picture close up in an editor BTW. The reason why I said "No" initially is the average person isn't going to be able to spot stuff like someone that actually knows how to use Photoshop. If you've ever done any heavy photo editing, from the experience of "Fixing" photos, you immediately can see if an area was altered in a picture. Even of they use a "Sample" of an area to cover a blemish, it's simply going to look out of place to an experienced eye close up.
OK, I have an ethical question for you all. Suppose someone took a half way decent pic put is was too dark or over saturated. They use a photo editor to make the picture more life-like so they can use it because they liked their pose or whatever. Would you consider this to be un-ethical because the picture was altered? | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 5:12:22 AM |
"Ethical Addict" my butt. Particularly considering your blatant ignorance on the subject (digital photography, AND ethics, for that matter), as other posts attest.
And you had the stones to follow this crap with "don't be cruel"?
What a hypocritical twit....
I find it interesting that "Ethical" puts "Buddhist" as his religion and then later in his profile says "just kidding about the religion". WTF. Great joke...
I can't discern fakes, but my favorite is the guy that uses his high school picture... | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 6:21:20 AM |
Suppose someone took a half way decent pic put is was too dark or over saturated. They use a photo editor to make the picture more life-like so they can use it because they liked their pose or whatever. Would you consider this to be un-ethical because the picture was altered?
I wouldn't consider it unethical.
Unethical is using someone else's photo altogether, and there is one "woman" here that I know for sure is currently doing it, but it's difficult and time consuming to prove. Since I'm not the one that's going to be dating "her", I'm not going to make it my problem. | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 6:36:20 AM | | It happens frequently. Signs are blurry pic which is misleading at best and a different person at worst. On the other hand a "to good to be true" high-definintion shot of a model-like god/goddess is also a common fake, along with a generic "attractive" profile reeling in suckers for the purpose of game-playing, hustling or worse. You pays your money ($zero) and you takes your chances. | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 9:44:24 AM | So you don't end up like Elaine on Seinfeld going, "Fake! Fake! FAKE!" try to get a number of good pics of the person before you meet up.
I mean if you are going to SETTLE for someone who has only a blurry headshot on their profile and then whine and complain that they looked like crap when you met them then you really have no one to blame but yourself!
If you want an example of a profile that has a nice picture set (with descriptions no less!) then look no further than *Herding Cats* profile. She has a nice variety of RECENT photos up that are in focus!
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 9:57:02 AM | OMFG!
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We would BBQ all of the stupid people and feed the homeless.
That is priceless!!!
Excellent HC! World hunger solved with a single thought!
OK, back on topic, I agree that a webcam is definitely a good way to go too. It's a great tool for several reasons aside from the obvious. Emailing or chatting to get to know someone can be totally different if you can actually see them. You can see body language, smiles, frowns etc. that you could not normally see. They help "Dial In" a conversation even if you're not using audio (VoIP) and you're only using an IM program. They're pretty cheap ($50-100) and most are easy to set up so there is no reasonable excuse not to have\get one IMO. | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 10:10:32 AM | When their profile reads "average" under body type and you show up to meet someone who has a beer gut - you've been duped. People tend to enjoy being overly permissive of themselves and not describe their body truthfully. In my experience, people providing 2 or less pictures, in the same clothes at the same event are usually hiding something. Hiding behind 'flattering' photos and misleading people you're talking to isn't going to formulate anywhere beyond the initial meeting if you can't be honest about how you look upfront.
Also, a picture taken prior to gaining 30 pounds has been common practice, and photoshop has played a hand in a few I've seen, they take the image blurring effect and smooth their skin out significantly - hides blemishes and makes them look more youthful.
This is not constrained to any race/gender or age group. Clear pictures from LESS than 5-7 feet away. Hiding behind an enormous pair of designer sunglasses? Yeah, post something else, I'm not guessing what you look like behind those welder's goggles. | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 11:16:57 PM | Shadows tell a photography buff more than anything. I can 99% of the time tell a fake pic like using a magazine shot or professional shot as their own. I gave a long response about this in the last thread about this a month or two ago. If you thread search you should be able to find it.
There are so many games that can be played that ultimately I wouldn't put much stock into any picture for the most part.
But when someone here did mean enough to me what I did was this: Put their mail message up on my big screen then stand by it then snap the picture. Hard to fake that but even then how do you know, except by my word, it was me standing in that picture and not the male model living down the hall or cousin arty or ....etc...etc See what I mean?
Trust no one for sure until you meet them. | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/3/2008 11:44:24 PM |
I am just curious if it is possible to look for certain things in a person's picture to tell if it's fake? Like blurriness for example. [quote/] Blurriness can be caused by things besides faked imagery. Look for stuff like different lighting, or shadows in the wrong direction, or flat, uniform blobs where there should be texture. But the images on here are pretty small and low resolution, so a fairly good, carefully done fake will be pretty hard to spot.
I worry a lot that I am going to be tricked by someone who has a fake picture and that I will end up meeting someone that I really don't want to meet. This has not happened to me yet, but considering that it is very possible I am just wondering what is the most polite way to end the date as quickly as possible? I hate to sound like I am being shallow, but if a guy showed up and he turned out to be an overweight, middle aged man I'd like to be out of there in no less than five minutes. Is there really any way to handle this situation tactfully?
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I don't see why you have to worry about "tact" or "most polite" in a situation where someone is caught out trying to con you. Take a printed copy of the date's picture with you. If it's an obvious fake when you meet, i think it's perfectly reasonable (and richly deserved) to just hold it up, look the other person in the eye and say "Sorry, i don't date fakers", then execute a 180-degree turn and vamoose. That's certainly what i'd do. Why would you want to invest another second in a relationship with a lie at its very foundation?
cheers - grant | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/8/2008 12:56:14 AM | | Ive got the perfect method... its called a webcam. Hahahaha. Its why I own one. A woman wants to see what I look like, and BAM there I am. Almost everyone has a webcam these days or knows someone with one. Relative or otherwise. So if Im ever concerned about her appearance thats what I make her use. Plus it has other fun possibilities. ^_^ | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/8/2008 1:04:13 AM | Don't know if ya can tell or not...but one thing I do know...I flat tell people I don't look like my pics ( at least in my opinion) cuz my cam either loves me alot or feels awful sorry for me...my pics come out far better than I look, and I don't touch them up, don't and never have had photoshop or no other such thing (we're talking pc kindergardener here folks...wouldn't know what to do with it if I had it). I just shoot (or my kids do) one with my web cam, and put it in an accessory file for my presto image explorer/cam and that's it. Upload from there. But I even have on my profile, I don't look like my pics cuz they don't show age and scars, even though I post a new one bout every month. Several of my online pals on other sites have seen me in person and say they think I do look like my pics, but i don't...heck, wish I looked half as good as those pics do, lol. It's hard to do here, since this site isn't set up like alota others, but on other sites I tell people....look at my friends list and see the people who are from here in my hometown, ask some of them if they've seen me and whether they think I look like my pics or not...wouldn't bother me a bit.
It's kinda funny, I was looking at the personals on yahoo the other day and they have a think like POF does about your new matches. well, I clicked on one and busted out laughin....the guy didn't look nothin like his photo...how do I know? it was my brother in law!!! lol....his primary photo was taken at such an angle that it looked nothin like him, so much so I didn't even recognize him....but when I got to his profile after clickin on it...his other pics....are him dead to rights...so sometimes it just depends on how a person is sitting at the time, or whatnot. I told him he needs to change those pics out, lol...cuz the one he's using as a primary not only doesn't really favor him....his others are more real and far better looking...he's a cutie! lol.
Lol, and Ignoble is right there....as long as I'm not being asked to do something I'm uncomfortable about, I don't mind letting people see me on webcam. Heck, why should I? Most live so far away, they can't see me or what I'm like in real life, so it makes me more real to them ....or even family far away....if they can see me on cam. | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/8/2008 4:29:08 AM | That would depend on what you mean by "fake"
If you mean "fake" like Photoshopped...then yes..if the person using the photo-editing software is not that versed in it.
There'll pixellation around the edges,it may be blurry on some parts.etc.
If you mean "fake" as in out of date...then yes. Look at the background(s) of the pic.Are there items no longer in fashion or technology that's not up to date?
I was got a pic from a woman that had a 1999 calendar in the background (This was 2005)
If you mean "fake" not them...then unless they couldn't describe where the pic was from or anything about the background,then NO.
Best bet...if in doubt,,,have them take a pic and email it to you while you're chatting online...
If they don't...or won't...then are likely faking their pic... | |
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| Question for the photography fanatics out there.. Are there ways to identify a fake pic??
Posted: 1/8/2008 4:36:00 AM |
This has not happened to me yet, but considering that it is very possible I am just wondering what is the most polite way to end the date as quickly as possible?
OP, you sound like me, worrying over something that hasn't even happened yet.
Don't worry about it. Just start meeting people. If you meet someone, and they don't look like their current pic, end the meeting (or date) early and move on to the next. The worst that could happen is that he looks like Michael Jordan in his picture, and when you get there, in reality he looks like Willy Wonka.
Considering how low-resolution the pictures are on here, you aren't going to be able to recognize a fake, anyway. And when you hear about "fake" pictures, that's not what people are talking about. Nobody is manipulating pictures with software and uploading them. By "fake", people are talking about those who upload pictures of someone other than themselves, or upload very old pictures that they no longer look like. No photo expert is going to be able to know if someone has done that. | |
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