| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/3/2008 7:57:40 AM | 'Alpha' females tend to be those who think they can dance (which may or not be the case) and are impossible to lead, because they will constantly wrestle with you.
Which results in no fun for either.
While there is nothing wrong with a woman 'knowing what she wants' and being able to 'hold her own', that tend sto be code-speak for control freak insufferable biotch with 10,000 tons of attitude, not one gram of it good. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/3/2008 4:17:22 PM | | My sister is an alpha male, her husband Mr. Potato. They're a perfect match, 23 years and counting. Go figure. And I mean she's a serious alpha male. It can work with the right guy. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/3/2008 7:13:17 PM | I think there's another fine line between a man being intimidated and just not liking who a woman is. I've come across a few women who said they intimidated people and my general reaction was quite consistently "you'd be less 'intimidating' if you were a little easier to like."
As mentioned quite a few times... save the self-acclamation. I'll decide how good I think you are. Be proud of the pie, but don't shove it in my face. I'll eat at my own speed.
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/3/2008 7:19:39 PM | I don't think women actually have a "alpha dog" mentality...it's just not in you.
Perhaps we have a difference of understanding of what alpha dog means...?
To me, the epitamy of "alpha dog" would be Hitler. He commanded and millions of people followed. All morals aside, he is an excellent example of the dictatorship type attitude which is required by a true alpha male. Like in the animal kingdom, he removed any of those who challenged him.
Females don't act like this in the animal kingdom and I hope they never act like this in the human species...
I think it's a primitive way of looking at life and any man or woman that considers himself superior to others...needs a kick in head. Far more progress would be made if we worked togather. I believe in diversity not dictatorship...
So yea...pardon the spilling of my guts on you...but the very word makes me cringe...
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SladeK
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Joined: 8/26/2007
Msg: 30 | |
| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/3/2008 7:43:59 PM | An ALPHA be a Male or female knows they are the Alpha befor anyone else tells them they are one, and would not ask for addvice on being an Alpha LOL >>>>> So if you are indeed loud and tend to make a scene >> yes tone it DOWN >>>>
otherwise enjoy your day as you are and figure it out  | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/3/2008 8:06:07 PM | Do it. Don't talk about it.
Got it? Good. Then you're an Alpha Female. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/3/2008 10:10:11 PM | | Stop trying so hard. Be the ball. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 12:03:02 AM | The alpha female is merely the b-i-t-c-h that breeds with the alpha male. The term "alpha female" denotes the dominant female in a pack. She is not the "alpha" because of any special characteristics that she has, she is the "alpha" because of the special protection afforded to her by the alpha male.
I understand what you're trying to convey by the term "alpha female". But the terminology is incorrect. Perhaps you should substitute the term "alpha" with pushy, boisterous, domineering, obstreperous (or whatever your heart desires).
However, in nature, an "alpha female" is only an alpha because she happens to be mating with an alpha male. It has nothing to do with her own merits. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 12:19:10 AM | alpah females??
no just thing, in reality, it is just women trying to act like men. Look at spike lee's "she's gotta have it" now that was a real alpha female. Yet, no lady in this world is like that in any way. She was literally a guy. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 1:33:46 AM | If you are truly 'Dominant', than find a more 'submissive' partner, you will be happy and so will they.
In a true and honest 'dominant - submissive' relationship, one gives freely and is happier when they experience what they know is their 'true' nature.
Be yourself, don't 'fake' it and you will find someone that is truly compatible with you! | |
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Joined: 12/12/2007
Msg: 36 | |
| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 1:38:05 AM | Firstly, a person should never have to "dumb down" anything.
Secondly, many "Alpha Types" make the mistake too often of relating and promoting confidence in themselves, by being arrogant and rude to others. Or are streight out of an elite mindset, based on their fortunate circumstances, and laurels earned easily by their purposely subdued "peers". Or have taken the concept of being "proactive" and "assertive" to distastefull extremes.
Thirdly, to be indpendent and advertising of that fact, often can be grouped with other words such as willful, stubborn, contentious, and disagreeable. When how others see you conduct your life will speak to any successfull capacity in handling any adault responsibilities, will prove more so then any personal statement about independence will. Truthfully, any person of age that can handle their personal responsibilities and be sucessfull in that, is independent.
And truely to be independent, is to be self sufficient. No person in a society is, hence why we all need something external at one point or another, provided by another person.
Fourthly, most men want to date women. Not "dogs" of a female order Alpha or not in persausion, unless of course, a deviancy is involved. To be competent in handling of ones buisness is expected, but hardly commendable. But to be first and foremost in all things, will however brand a woman a female dog of a human order.
Fifthly, independence is an over used and misapplied term. As people are expected to handle their buisness with competance on an adault dating site. It is a word that often harkens back to days of publically militant groups of females over playing female sufferage and bickering with males about it. And in such time such counter harmonious conventions were appreciated, and the "I'm my own woman" attitude thrown in your face, was acceptable. Now it is not. Being rude and stupidly throwing uncheaked free will in a persons face, will grant an "independant woman" all the independence from a commited and loving relationship, that obviously they want.
Truely, being independant is a statement of being and mental process. Not wether or not one can competantly handle their daily life as expected.
To be an independant thinker, is to be free. And the above free thinking thought on the subject of supposed "independant people", and the fallacy that them truely being, are mine.
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:16:15 AM | The alpha female is merely the b-i-t-c-h that breeds with the alpha male. The term "alpha female" denotes the dominant female in a pack. She is not the "alpha" because of any special characteristics that she has, she is the "alpha" because of the special protection afforded to her by the alpha male.
That is incorrect. The term is also used to describe humans and other social animals. Your use of the word "b1tch" tells me that your understanding of an alpha is probably based on watching the odd nature show starring wolves. The alpha male in a wolf pack submits to the will of the alpha female during mating and rearing of pups. But it's more complicated and far reaching than a wolf pack.
There are many matriarch-run groups in the animal kingdom so before you publicly demonstrate your ignorance of that fact, read up.
However, in nature, an "alpha female" is only an alpha because she happens to be mating with an alpha male. It has nothing to do with her own merits.
Just one example for you are meercats. The alpha female physically kicks the ass of her subordinates that fall out of line and SHE chooses who will be alpha male by allowing him to mate with her. He submits to her choice of when to eat, where to live, when to move etc.
I could go on, but I don't think it's necessary. The term alpha is used to describe lead animals in many social groups, including human.
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:46:13 AM | *Depending on if the *Alpha* means the Intellectual type . .
. . or . . the Biker-babe type . . *
Intelligence, or being well-read is only a percentage of a persons
attractiveness / personality . .
Being a 'know-it-all' can be a turn-off for some . .
Always having the answer to _Everything_ can push a potential Ideal partner away
quicker than being flighty and happy-go-lucky . . !
As with any other part of attraction . . it's a matter of chemistry and balance of
compatibility . .
You can only present yourself as positively as you feel the situation warrants . .
If you're trying to attract a Rocket Scientist . . Go For It . . !! . .  | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:58:48 AM | If you are alpha those around you know it. Speculating about it and dwelling upon it indicates you do not have an alpha personality for a true alpha is too busy with other endeavours and other stimulations to have the inclination to care about the fragile sensibilities of others.
Sane people like competent partners. Unfortunately there are all too many folks on both sides of the gender aisle that think they're alphas and have the need to proclaim it when if fact they are nothing more than deluded self absorped b*i*t*c*h*e*s or b*a*s*t*ar*d*s. Some of us see ourselves as competent when reason has no choice but to see us arrogant. | |
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Joined: 12/12/2007
Msg: 40 | |
| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 10:53:05 AM | I think, Herding Cats, that you and others are playing antics with symantics on the subject of which sex you personally feel should be dominat or more so in any relationship, including human. And turning to examples in animals to justify a unnatural competitive condition between the opposite sexs, that now for some time is more understood as the opposing sex. Including the cheers and boos of which gender should be kicking whoms ass, in a battle for dominance, hence supremacy.
Because dominance is all an animal can understand. And that includes primates that pass themselves off as humans.
Being human is not a natural state, we are not creatures that subscribe to a natural order of things, including any supposed laws of nature involving dominance and submission that solely involves a gender. There is no inherent and manifest evidence of either sex having any advantages in leadership or soverignty. But ample evidence of those whom tried and failed, to erroniously promote any leadership or dominant cast based on genitalia. Or soverignty based on their sexuality and politic to promote that "equality" when advancement beyond is the true ambition.
Because the need of their sex organs, thusly creating abberations of their behavior, to create progeny is all some animals can understand as well. Just like being an "Alpha" is more of a state of mind for most, then a state of being in fact.
It begs the question if one requires the aknowlegement of them being "Alpha", are they really? if it was that manefestly explicit in all aspects of criteria, competition then become a moot exercise in futility. As things now stand, I for one don't see why there is so much competition for the opposite sex, when it acts like an agressive opposing gender. Based on what I've seen, if one folows animal concepts, how can one hate the derrogatory term Byatch. Particularly when the justification for being a hoary intemperate female of an animal species is considered acceptable and even a reveared state. And I guess if thats acceptable, then having an "Alpha" designation about that fact, is to be aspired to. By females of all species, including homo sapiens.
But you see animals can't help that their function is gender defined. Humans are free of that boundry. And only humans can aspire to be a thing including "alpha" and "byatch" and in combination.
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 11:12:06 AM | If you're confident, can take charge, stand up for yourself, be decisive... that's great.
If you're controlling, demeaning, pushy, etc... that's not so great. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 11:39:37 AM |
I think, Herding Cats, that you and others are playing antics with symantics on the subject of which sex you personally feel should be dominat or more so in any relationship, including human.
No. I have no personal feelings whatsoever on which sex should be dominant in a relationship. They're all different. I was simply clarifying the term.
I don't put myself under categories or over-analyze my place in my relationships. The chips fall where they may and as long as both of us are happy, who is Alpha and who is not is moot. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 11:44:21 AM | | Unfortunately in this site every time the world Alpha is tossed around tends to mean overpowering, b!tchy personalities. I don't agree with that terminology at all. To me an Alpha male, or even an Alpha female is a person who takes charge and does what needs to be done. I don't see anything wrong with this type of personality, or even aspiring to be. It's like the person who competes, you are constantly training, constantly striving to be even better, even when you have your ups and downs. | |
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Bona x
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Joined: 6/11/2007
Msg: 44 | |
| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 12:07:41 PM | | Alpha Females put their pants on the same way I do,one leg at a time. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 2:18:16 PM | @ 9 to 9
I agree with you.
Alas, most of us fall into the “religious trap” prominent in most western societies. The first books of The Old Testament are jointly shared by all three of the world’s dominant religions. Genesis – Chapter 1 – creates a division between Man and “everything else.” I would, therefore, agree with you that the delineation is a “false line” – the division does not exist; ergo, “might makes right” has credence.
The Humankind Failure includes being able to rationalize everything humans Do, or even “Can Do.” Buzzards, for example, simply sit on a branch, kill it and eat it, regardless of how bad it stinks. Hugging the tree or strongly delineating the diet is not among the considerations. Subsistance is subsistence. In a similar way (from a male viewpoint), if it is a girl, and if it looks good, fcuk it. Humans invest a diplomatic venue: talk about it, argue about it, vote for it, THEN Eat it or Fcuk it.
Religion is like a coin: it has at least two facets: One is the “formula” for building a society: LAW. Certain other parameters with penalties emrged. (Oh sh!t, we also get lawyers.) The “religion trap” also charters us to exploit and over-exploit our animal, vegetable, and mineral resources without guilt, shame, or censure.
Move ahead 15-20,000 years . . .
. . . and in the final analysis, HERE WE ARE! We have TONS of laws, (we have TONS of lawyers ), we have refined tastes, we have refined women, and we have learned about genders. We apply sophistry and semantics whenever possible; we also have our favorite collection of guns. If it tastes good, EAT IT! If it looks good, FCUK IT!
The more things change, the more things stay the same. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/4/2008 5:30:25 PM | | There is a sadly prevalent and wholly unnecessary backlash against what turns out to be a nearly nonexistent prohibition. Left over from previous generations is the chauvinist archetypal man wishing his bride be naive, compliant and soft. He is become a straw man target for neo-feminist spears. The battle was won, the field has sprung a new crop of daisies. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/11/2008 10:04:20 AM | | yes, I prefer to be a beautiful delicate daisy with a strong mature stem that keeps me stable and tall. I guess I am an alpha flower - lol | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/11/2008 10:14:29 AM | So are people in Nova Scotia dwarfed by pervailing winds or something? 5'3" isn't even tall in Southeast Asia. And I also thought for a woman to play volleyball after her school days she had to be a Lesbian? Wow, was I off on that; you learn something new every day.
I neglected to mention I have a wonderful relationship with an Alpha Female. She does my taxes. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/11/2008 11:26:58 AM |
Alpha male, or even an Alpha female is a person who takes charge and does what needs to be done.
Or alternatively; the 'Alpha person' is one who thinks their version of 'what needs to be done' is always right and rides roughshod over anyone else's who thinks otherwise. | |
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| Alpha Female
Posted: 1/11/2008 11:32:59 AM | I'm often accused of being an alpha (dominant) female. But it's not something *I* seek, it's just the way I am.
I also am often accused of being a lesbian (I do, after all, play --gasp-- VOLLEYBALL--the straightest of all sports [although I played rugby and play soccer still, and there ARE lots of lesbians in those two groups. So, hey, maybe I AM a lesbian but I'm fighting my natural urges because society's crush is too overwhelming for me. I'm doing pretty well at fighting those urges so far!]). | |
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