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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/7/2008 3:49:22 PM | | A law like this would be similarly stupid to many of the laws concerning prostitution........My reasoning......I can go to a bar, chat a guy up, get him to buy me thirty dollars worth of drinks, then have sex with him.......He didnt actually give me money per se but an in kind benefit........this is legal but prostitution is not......sounds about the same circular logic for the law you are proposing....... | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/7/2008 4:07:57 PM | No ........unless your a child and then there are laws for that. But you make a choice to have sex with someone it is and adult choice. Yes some people are creeps but you picked them so that is your problem. As a grown woman whenever I make that choice it is because I want to and if it doesn't happen to work out then I learned something from it. Being a woman I hate it whenever women feel the need to place blame on someone other than theirselves for their behaviors. And as for your dignity if it bothers you so much quit having sex as a adult female you have a choice to say No. And if it doesn't work to your satisfaction then chalk it up to experience lesson learned and move on. Myself being a adult female if I make a choice to have sex it is my choice. If someone is a rat then I picked them. It was my choice. So quit crying and whining take your responsiblity dust off your fanny and consider it a lesson learned
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/10/2008 7:53:59 PM | With all due respect, what you are saying just doesn't add up.
If a woman has been seeing a man for several months and they end up in bed, I would say that is sorta par for the course, intimacy is a natural response to getting comfortable with each other, and while it can be deeply meaningful it does not always, or even often, imply ownership.
Only an emotional cripple would view this as having been tricked, perhaps the women involved got all clingy and pushy? Some women out there drive a partner away by being so unhealthily needy... don't you know how very unattractive that is?
In this day and age, consenting sex between two adults does not necessarily lead to marriage, and perhaps if more women put their cards on the table up front, they would not end up getting hurt. Who is tricking who here? I tend to think that many men are far more concrete and simple when it comes to relationships, and it is us women that are the conniving, tricky ones! If you are saving yourself for Mr. Right, looking for a husband or life partner, then make sure the guy knows this before you get in the sack with him. If you are starting to have strong feelings, say so! Give the guy a chance to back out before you go feeling all compromised by your own duplicity.
While I am not advocating promiscuity, and certainly we should all be mindful of the health risks involved, it really makes me mad that many women are so unrealistic as to think that sex with a man means you have "Given" yourself, and he is now bound to you. How archaic!
Finding a partner is never easy, and I think a lot of people ignore the warning signs out of desperation to be in a relationship, the warning signs are there if you will only look for them, and really, if the guy is just trying to get you into bed, in your heart, you know it way ahead time. Just give him the order of the boot and move on to find someone who is looking for the same thing that you are. Communication is key to knowing how and if to move forward in a relationship, grow up and stop acting so high school! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/11/2008 11:00:15 AM | what if a guy strings a woman along for months on the belief he loves her and she falls in love with him also and feels ok and ready to have a sexual encounter with him...
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Let's look at this in another way, just for giggles...
The guy is not a player, he wouldn't be dating for months waiting for it if he was!
He is an optimist... hanging in there to see if things will work. She teases him along but -nice girls wait for it- , and he hangs in there, blue balls and all.
FINALLY... in a moment of mutual passion (passion his, surrender hers) the big event happens.
AND IT IS A DUD! No fireworks, no bells ringing, just a tedious surrender after months of teasing and saying NO. The man leaves devastated... conflicted after wasting months to find out that the woman who he thought was his lover to be just wasn't into it.
ANY woman I have had a passionate encounter with was never dumped because I got what I wanted... she was pursued with renewed vigor because I couldn't get enough and needed more. If passion is not mutual, there is no flame, no heat, no reason to go on. This gal wasn't dumped... she was set free to find someone who she can truly make her run with scissors.
Bob
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All my serious relationships started with fire and stayed hot because we kept blowing on the coals. If a partner won't blow on the coals with you... the fire goes out.
PPS
What a lucky escape he made. Can you imagine living with a Drama Queen who thinks relationships should be tailored to her needs by lawyers? What she needs is not a law, but counseling to help her lose her fear of mutual adult relationships and gain some self respect as a woman. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/11/2008 8:59:57 PM | From birth our bodies develop immunities from periodic exposure to disease. Sometimes it actually has to temporarilly succumb to the effects in order to build the strength to avert the illness at the next encounter. You, or your friend as the case may be have now been exposed. Once you have fully recovered you will be stronger and can more readily deal with the next disease which tries to "promise" his way into your bed.
We are our own best defense.
I agree that this is a silly post, but for some reason it's caught everyone's attention. There's a lot of hilarity here, and a few true gems, like #303 above from passinthru, and some good insight from SauberF1 on #315. Those two posts were worth wading through the last few pages....
MS
PS: Sorry , just read this...add Boater Bob's post above to the gems list. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2008 9:19:55 PM | I agree with musubi02 and tigerwoods... it is absurd I mean the only way to put a law for that in place is to make sure you cover the gold diggers out there also. I mean both men and women play the field to get what they want and it is not always sex...
How many times do you hear of women doing what's necessary to get cars, clothes, trips, and not to say jewelry especially diamond rings. We have more issues to be concerned with than to put laws on the "people who turn tricks" ebonically speaking
(trickin') there's enough laws already and the average citizen can hardly keep up with those. If this is the case bring all the laws in play with sexual activity like the adultery laws and the public affection laws..... Not!!!
I'm leaving you with words from a famous song and I don't even know who wrote it butit goes like this "everybody plays the fool..." | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 8:14:30 AM | I see what you are saying.. about tricking.. that is just plain lying.
Everyone has the choice to believe what they hear or not.
And they should have control of their own body.
Do I believe there should be a LAW against this? NO WAY.....
People and their feelings fluctuate...it is difficult to prove
intent. So a fickle person is doomed.... suppose he or she falls in heavy lust.. and the other party perceives it as love? who do you blame? Everything should be discussed before any exchange of bodily fluids.
We have enough laws, and to lump this with Rape is ignorant. How can you place a sub section to such a heinous crime?
It is time for people to take responsibility for their own actions. It's like doing something .....then saying 'someone else made me do it'.. it's ridiculous.~T~ | |
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Posted: 1/12/2008 8:42:14 AM | I can just imagine the thousands of women pleading their cases in front of a judge!
Oh, your honour, this very bad man took advantage of me and I think he should go to jail for 5 years now because I was so stupid to fall for his pack of lies. Give me a break today. Our courts are already backlogged with criminal cases. To sue someone successfully, you must prove that you actually lost something, or suffered severely.
It's like buying a new car, honey, buyer beware, and make sure you take it out for a test drive before you decide. And one more thing? Take a good look under the hood, too. 
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/12/2008 9:26:26 AM | | My thoughts on this are, I wish I had the power to turn them into a toad for a day or better yet to cast a spell compelling them to be honest, like the character in "Liar, Liar". In any case this is something that younger folks might do and it would be nice to think that by the time one is older they would leave this tactic behind. But you use what works right? A law? No, the potential for abuse is too great. Common decency cannot be enforced by law anyway. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/12/2008 1:09:29 PM | I like the way UKhopeful so eloquently summed up these matters, in message # 407.
My answer: For goodness' sake, no! (I think only in America would anyone suggest such a thing.)
In my opinion, this unfortunate state of affairs is what comes from bartering, and trading, and putting a value on sex, other than what there should be, the mutual exchange of physical, and spiritual, intimacies.
OP, if your friends are thinking that by elevating sex to something that obligates a man to more than what he's willing to give, they are going to get whatever it is they want, from him, security, faithfulness, longevity of the relationship, they should realize they are mistaken and change their attitudes. This is old fashioned thinking that a marriage licence hardly guarantees, any more.
Also, no one should allow themselves to be talked, or coerced, into sex, or anything that doesn't suit them, unless they are willing to accept the consequences. Each and every woman, and man, learns this, at some point in her, or his, life. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/13/2008 5:40:17 AM | I propose a law stopping K-Fed from reproducing anymore than he already has. He's done enough damage, but Britney's legacy lives on in her little sister now.
Oh and I can't remember if I posted her, but this is quite possibly the stupidest thing I've read.
If you're dumb enough to have consentual sex with a guy you just met, make sure you enjoy it cause "Love at first sight" is just an expression. He might be there in the morning, but don't be shocked if he isn't. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2008 9:56:18 AM | I propose a law stopping K-Fed from reproducing anymore than he already has. He's done enough damage, but Britney's legacy lives on in her little sister now.
It would be better a law stopping Britney from reproducing. Kevin may not be as glamorous or "cool" as her, but at least he's staying clean for his children, something Britney can't be bothered to do.
Not trying to hijack a thread, just tired of hearing "Britney's children". They're also Kevin's children, something a lot of idiots in the media like to forget. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/13/2008 10:21:18 AM | Look how many men have been "tricked" into situations where women used sex as a lure to improve her socioeconomic standard? From post 306.
GREAT point.
I haven't read the entire thread, but the OP is gone now and I think it's because she's in a bit of a snit.
Imagine everyone suing everyone because they didn't get what they wanted...good God.
Lawyers would be getting richer, the courts would be crammed with spurned lovers and no one would even try to date after all of this for fear of being sued.
If I sleep with a man under the impression that I'm going to get more out of him, that's the risk I'm taking. The last thing I'd want to do is stand up in a court and announce that I slept with someone and he dumped me afterwards.
This is akin to accusing a man of rape because he didn't see you again after you slept together. Get over it.
From post 355:
I have been forced into a celibate lifestyle and it just ain't fun! *Sarcasm warning in effect*
Oh my God! You made me come up with a great scheme...women should sue ALL men that DON'T sleep with them. They can use the argument that these men are alienating their affections and that celibacy is causing them a lot of pain and mental anguish.
Heck, the nice guys can also sue all women that don't date them because it's causing them a lot of emotional distress having to face reality.
I'm off to go to law school...I see it becoming even more lucrative when this all goes into effect. | |
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