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HiKi
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Joined: 11/4/2007
Msg: 477 | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/15/2008 5:50:26 PM | [He was a pretty dumb hypnotist. That or he developed a God complex]
I hadn't thought about the idea of his possible "God complex". I think that's very possible since he tried to convince me that he was my "MASTER" by saying it repeatedly. He makes a major part of his living as a hypnotist and obviously is doing well financially.
I think that there should be laws against trying to use a technique such as hypnosis for his own sexual entertainment or pleasure. | |
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Rhett1
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Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 480 | |
| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/15/2008 9:58:09 PM | Hardclimber said:
TAKE RESPOSNIBILITY
Don't you see that's the problem? We live in a society where people can blame others for their problems...this is just another example of that.
I would like to see the OP's reaction if men were to say they want laws passed that they can sue a woman for "tricking" them into having a baby with them...same thing, no? | |
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Posted: 1/15/2008 11:34:51 PM | They used to have chastity laws like this, where sex by false promise (the promise of marriage) was in fact illegal. Then, women realized it was patronizing for the state to insist that women were so naïve and week minded that they needed state interference in their lives.
Soon after, we women even got the right to vote! These days, we have our own jobs, we can open our own bank accounts, we're even allowed out late at night Without a male escort.
You should probably start accepting the responsibilities that go along with these rights. They might get taken away, if you're that willing to give them up. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2008 11:42:51 PM | I would like to see the OP's reaction if men were to say they want laws passed that they can sue a woman for "tricking" them into having a baby with them...same thing, no?
Oh yes. Same thing exactly.
Let's see women sued for "pulling the goalie".
Same shyte. A guy can wear a condom or get snipped to make sure he's not victimized.
A woman can keep her pants on if she equates sex with a promise or unspoken
contractual obligation.
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Posted: 1/15/2008 11:54:26 PM |
hey asyndneymale....I know it sounded cruel on the forums, but lets be real eh? Thanks for the compliment on my uniform..the firegirl inside is pretty good too...you are fun...write to me if you wish..have a safe trip!
Warm smiles,
Tamara -jeanieweeman
Thanks for the kind reply Tamara, although it seems there are others that have made it their business to have my original post to you deleted.
I'm just wondering why that's so because I can't recall saying anything particularly offensive. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/16/2008 12:09:49 AM | Hey asydneymale,
Really? Wow thats not a very nice thing to do. You didn't say anything offensive...at least I am not offended. You said to me "I've been in Jakarta for 6 months now and there is a definate shortage of western women." I wish you well on your journey and hope you find the girl of your dreams in your travels. I think its great you get to see the world. I think there should be a law to liquidate fingers that delete others posts!
 You didn't offend me my friend...be safe!
Firegirl Tam | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/16/2008 6:30:37 AM | | Sadie, you may be close to the truth. Maybe, just maybe, the op IS her "friend" and is now mad at being so silly as to drop trou and lay down for a man that didn't want her after all? Just a thought I've had all along. If this is not so, I apologize. However, I stand by my other post saying to sue anyone for this is just bizarre. The last thing we need is more frivolous lawsuits choking our legal system. People, take responsibility for your own actions and stop blaming others! Geez! Yes, some men and women are unscrupulous and will tell you things to get you to have sex. Do you all think this a newsflash? Because I think humans heard of this since the beginning of time! It's not fair, but anyone over the age of 16 should realize they can't believe everything someone says, particularly when there is the possibility of sex! | |
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Posted: 1/16/2008 8:06:29 AM | Folks, as usual, people as SO caught up in criticizing the OP that we're failing to address the real issue here.
If someone lures you into a relationship, and you later learn almost everything about them, and who they represented themselves to be, is a total lie, and you are damaged as a result, should they be held accountable for it? I think yes, they should. I think that is FRAUD.
I'm not talking about two people who are honest with one another but the relationship just doesn't work out. That's the breaks. I'm talking about people like my ex who claimed to have a Phd in Clinical Neuropharmacology - but didn't - and claimed to be divorced - but wasn't. I'm talking about people who will tell ANY lie to get what they want, and usually what they want is either sex or money, or both.
Mark
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/16/2008 10:24:15 AM | Swamphunter (Mark)- I agree, lying to people is wrong, wrong, wrong on so many levels. But do you think legislating lying will help? I think one very important book already condemns that one, to no avail. If you don't listen to Him, chances are a law won't scare you. By the way, your ex is crazy to deceive you, you are a real cutie, and you seem like a nice guy!  | |
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oshan
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Joined: 1/5/2008
Msg: 491 | |
| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/16/2008 10:55:06 AM | stove top...
First of all, educators do not ".....'learn' people about red flags in relationships....", they TEACH them. Secondly, I almost didn't respond to you, but I think it's important to say that I do understand your lack of compassion and understanding for victims of emotional, psychological and sexual abuse. Most people live their lives that way, and are so far into denial that when the truth about it is presented to them, they will vehemently deny..deny...deny....because it's just too scary for them to admit that anyone, especially women and children, can be victims of such horror. But, you can deny all you want....it really doesn't bother me, and you can call my posts "bullsh*t or any other 'creative' name if you want....you can even stand on your head and blow wooden nickels out of your navel if you want....but, that won't change the truth of the matter. You see hiding from the truth is like being in prison....the prison of ignorance and denial, and I understand that when people live like that it is impossible for them to see or understand anything else. Unfortunately (or perhaps, fortunately, however one wishes to view it), it is not until an individual such as yourself experiences this type of abuse, that you will know without a doubt, the pain and feelings of disempowerment, fear, distrust of self and a myriad of other equally painful feelings that occur. This is usually when the house of cards these people have lived in all their lives comes tumbling down, and the process of healing and understanding begins, which then kickstarts the whole process of learning about real self-love.....you know, the ability to have compassion and understanding for self and others, and all the other character qualities necessary to be a loving human being.
I think that we live in a world that really lacks this essential characteristic....compassion. Compassion for ourselves and for others....even if we have not experienced what they have experienced. I also think that compassion is very closely linked to understanding, openness and respect. | |
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Posted: 1/16/2008 11:42:51 AM | Oshan: You're absolutely correct.. pardon my 'learned' and change it to 'teach".. I hope you did get the ultimate meaning of my suggestion.
the prison of ignorance and denial, and I understand that when people live like that it is impossible for them to see or understand anything else. Unfortunately (or perhaps, fortunately, however one wishes to view it), it is not until an individual such as yourself experiences this type of abuse, that you will know without a doubt, the pain and feelings of disempowerment, fear, distrust of self and a myriad of other equally painful feelings that occur. This is usually when the house of cards these people have lived in all their lives comes tumbling down, and the process of healing and understanding begins, which then kickstarts the whole process of learning about real self-love.....you know, the ability to have compassion and understanding for self and others, and all the other character qualities necessary to be a loving human being
Just my point : DENIAL! In this particular thread the op and "her friend" are in denial and will continue to face these same kinds of situations. They are in denial of learning to read when one is in the company of one who is less than sincere.
It is paramount to learn to distinguise sencerity from fabrication, and the ability to make love because both parties truly enjoy each other ~ not because we are afraid of losing him/her.
To just sympathize / empathize with someone ~ without educating I believe to be just a lot of fluff.
Not very many of us who have gone through something similar has BLAMED the offending party for something they mutually consented to. This woman ONLY WENT TO BED WITH THIS MAN BECAUSE SHE FEARED LOSING HIM. She was not ready to have sex with him, but she did. She I hope has learned from this experience and will know when it is right and will want to willingly progress intimately, because she will know that things are right and good. Not because she didn't want to lose someone that wasn't willing to wait until she was comfortable. Perhaps she will know that things are not right, but will have sex anyway that is her choice... but at least she will be educated to know that the final outcome might not end up the way she would want but her self-worth will be intact because she went in knowing full well what the real deal was.
In closing... It is this so-called "law" that the op is suggesting should be in place and her denial of any contribution to her situation that is not being empathized or sympathized with I would think. Unfortunately or hopefully however you chose to look at it, we all learn by our mistakes, and we learn by helpful people who have been there, done that. And we learn the most when we take responsiblity for our contribution to those mistakes. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/16/2008 11:56:10 AM | Well I have got to tell you that nowadays a guy or woman who deceives someone out of money or sex are very naive.
There is a site on the internet called Don't date Him and on this site are pictures and names of guys who have used and deceived these women for sex and money.
You can actually go on this site and look up someone if you are unsure about their character in respect to dating them.
You never know he could be on there!!!!!!!!!!!
So if you want to deceive someone out of anything so be it but it will all catch up to you in the end. | |
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Rhett1
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Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 495 | |
| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/16/2008 1:10:54 PM | Great advice, Sunflower...
Except for one tiny little problem...
People who use that site and believe the stuff written on it are then possibly at risk of being duped (by the site)...
Should they sue the site if they pass up a great guy who is on there simply because some woman who was bitter put his information on it?
That site is a ridiculous piece of trash. Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of men on there who ARE bad relationship material, but why would you believe what a total stranger wrote...possibly in a jealous/bitter fit? | |
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Posted: 1/16/2008 1:19:02 PM | indeed i believe this kind of violation of trust should be the same as rape but the problem is trying to press charges on a concensual sexual encounter, really you ned a foolproof way of getting the absolute truth on the matter i order to be able to adress it with a laws and i damn well hope that happens, i mean a lie detector test isn't 100%
b@stard:"hey babe i'll marry you if you give me some right now"
sincere beautiful victim:"okay i love you"
*behind closed doors night of hot sex*
sincere beautiful victim"*wakes up* huh where is h....*looks at the pillow beside her to find a note thanking her for the hot sex and saying goodbye*"
come now seriously, how many women get pregnant by these..... okay i must stop i'm about to get vulgar enough to be banned i've said my piece. | |
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Rhett1
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Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 497 | |
| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/16/2008 1:24:00 PM | Oh come on...you are wanting it to become a "he said/she said" thing. Do you honestly believe that no woman would use this "law" to her advantage?
She gets spurned after sleeping with a guy once or twice, then decides he should go to jail for not giving himself to her, permanently?
That's the biggest part of this: JAIL.
What a waste of taxpayer money, the guy's life and the court's time. | |
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Posted: 1/16/2008 1:25:17 PM | I agree with Rhett on this one, sites like that are very dangerous, and im sure if a investigation was ever done I'm willing to bet half or probably a good 60% of folks who are posted on there are the victim of vindictive ex partners.
Too many unstable people out there, and thats the reality of it, too many people dont use common sense when addressing relationships,were humans and we have a choice, the OP friend she had a choice she could of said NO, do I think there should be a law , absolutely Not, all you would do is make the lawyers rich and tie up the courts with cases of he said she said blah blah blah.
Yes there are people out there without a conscious that preys upon suspecting and vulnerable people, short from taking them out and in the back and having them Whacked, wont solved the problem.
People need to use more common sense, and take personal responsibility for their actions, it does take two to tangle, I mean if you're out with someone and something doesn't feel right, tell them, you know communication, which I think its a lost art in today's Mc Quickie world. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/16/2008 1:54:04 PM | there is your garden variety con man/woman who will string you along and all you will lose is your pride and hopefully no more than a few months of wasted time after you realize what you are up against.
then there are your more hardcore liars and cheaters who will take it a little further over a longer period of time and they are really good at conning and appearing normal. but they are not and they don't care about the messes they leave in their wake.
finally there are the sociopaths who you hope you don't encounter. we've heard and read about them on the news.
all of these people on the surface seem ordinary and harmless, until they screw you over.
no one tricks you into having sex, if it's not consensual it is rape. | |
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