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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 2:56:09 AM | Re post 539
The passage quoted by post 539 does not actually refer to rational behavior. A ma who invests so much time and effort to a woman does not bail out after only one "bad" sexual encounter, one would expect he would give his "investment" a few more chances.
The conclusions one can thus rationally draw are:
a) The encounter was very very very bad in essence or in "psychology" (very disappointing)
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b) The man is not a rational investor.
But of course in either case, the proposal of the Opost has no grounds. If anything, one could ponder on a proposal to legislate some kind of reparations to him for time and money invested or emotional distress! Or have the state finance a sex ed class for both of them, with incentives offered to take it together!!!
Else, it is his and hers sunk "cost" of time, at least! And time is the most precious of "goods". | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 4:59:32 AM | so essentially you are saying that everyguy that tries and does get you into bed, should be arrested, cause you got your feelings hurt? Most relationships do not end on a positive note, thats why they are ending. people change, people fall out of love, or out of like. Daggone, the cops could walk into any nightclub at any time and arrest most of the people there, cause they are looking for a good time with the opposite (sometimes same) sex. Would be nice, "Officer, arrest that man, he hurt my feelings" | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 6:45:30 AM | Yes, picture it... Said man spends money on dates, let's say 2 or 3 per week. He spends time with the woman. He gives up spending time with friends to be with this woman. Then he gets sex from her after months of trying and then BAM!, he's gone. Yep, SHE got tricked. His plan was perfect.
^^ not, i say he got tricked ever thought maybe she held out so he could spend all that money on her taking her out ? kinda stupid though.. it makes her a ho if you think about it
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 6:52:21 AM | | "ladyofShalott" I agree with you somewhat. But maybe there shouldn't be "retribution" unless the deception was really awful, then it should just be warn other women. What if the truth was this: the guy has spent months with a woman, takes it further, then finds out she's a psycho nutjob that all of a sudden wants to marry him, stalks him, gets obsessive right after "the deed" which is what the op was talking about. (She of course didn't say her "friend" went psycho, but of course I think we're all missing key parts here. Since the op has deleted her profile, I guess we won't have a chance to figure this one out.) In that case, he should just be allowed to leave, period. Why try to get back at the poor guy? I know of a few guy friends that this has happened to. It's scary for them. And yes, it happens to women! I bet you know of some, they meet a nice guy, he goes nutty, "falls in love" quickly, proposes, etc, perhaps shows up everywhere (stalker) and then the woman thinks "Freak!" and tries to escape. Should she be sued or have retribution? I get your feelings completely. We've all experience the "what an A..hole!" Maybe the retribution should be just move on, be happy with yourself, keep yourself occupied, then the right one will come along. It's happened... | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 1:03:01 PM | Lady: I think you misunderstood...I was agreeing with you.
Whitetigress: I think you also misunderstood...my post was dripping with sarcasm. I was saying that he definitely was not the victor in this scenario. The implication was that she IS a ho if she takes advantage of the dates and all, then wants to run to the police with a story of being tricked into having sex after months of dating. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 4:38:56 PM | It is called SOUL MURDER it is rape there should be a law against it and how dareeeeeeee that woman say its the womans fault for her being so stupiddddddddd we woman need to stick together its woman like you that give woman or humans a bad name ugh but its like overt or covert violence like now they see that emotionally and mentally abuse is as bad or worseeeee than physicial at least when it is physical you can see it show it get him for it but with emotional its worse but the courts now see this as legislatable SO SHOULD THESE MOST DANGEROUS CRIMINALS CALLED SOUL AND TRUST MUDERERS They to me are the most dangerous criminals the stranger who rapes you was a stranger ITS LIKE WHAT A JEWISH WOMAN FROM A CONCENTRATION CAMP SAID TO A WOMAN WHO WAS MOLESTED BY HER PARENTS AT LEAST WITH US WE KNEW IT WAS THE ENEMY AND COULD STICK TOGETHER ABUSE FROM SOMEONE YOU TRUST IS MOST DAMAGING THESE MEN KNOW THIS AND ARE OUT TO DESTROY YOU PUT THEM IN PRISONNNNNNNNNNN ASAP | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 4:52:16 PM | If you can't trust yourself to make wise decisions and that sometimes no matter how careful you are some people will take advantage of you ,then perhaps you should stay home with them blinds drawn and never date again.
You can't trick someone into having sex with you.You obviously wanted to have sex as much as they did otherwise you would of kept your clothes on.If no one is holding a gun to your head or a knife to your throat then you are not being raped. Consenting to sexual activity is not rape.Rape is someone having sexual intercourse with you against you will. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 5:36:47 PM | Im shaking my head in disgust that someone would have the audacity to compare Rape to someone tricking someone into having sex , that totally p isses me off. There should be laws for people like you
Im not going to address the other comments, lets dumb it down for the likes of you Lovelylisa88, the woman in question had a choice she could of said NO. Unlike rape victims they don't get that choice to choose, call it what ever you want .... your sister in the sisterhood made her own choice, just like and this is off topic, if im out with a woman who does coke, and she tries to trick me into snorting it because I don't and never done coke, I have a choice do it or not, same thing in this case , the OP said her friend was with the guy for over 4 months she still could of said NO, Nada, Nyet, I don't think so or as my southern friends say " go on and git" | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 6:31:41 PM | | I let a police officer in my home once. We was an instructor at a Defensive Driving Course... you know, traffic school. My husband had left me, after a twenty-year military career marriage. It had been only seven weeks since my X left me. During traffic school, this cop (instructor), asked if anyone wanted to have lunch with him. Of course, I volunteered. I poured my heart out to him over lunch, exchanged cards, and he called over the next few days. He ended up raping me at my house a week later. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 6:42:24 PM | Lisa:
we woman need to stick together What? If a woman is being an idiot, I'm sure as hell not going to stick with her just because she's a woman. I will decide whose side I'm on based on my belief system, not based on which side possesses a vagina.
it is rape That's sad. It's not rape if the woman is stupid enough to think that one night with a man will give her some sort of commitment from him.
its woman like you that give woman or humans a bad name ugh Women OR humans? Thanks for sticking up for women...yikes.
SO SHOULD THESE MOST DANGEROUS CRIMINALS CALLED SOUL AND TRUST MUDERERS Sorry, I had to take a break there to clean up the coffee I spewed all over my screen..."most dangerous criminals"? What the hell fantasy land are you living in? I do believe that crimes such as murder, REAL rape and child molestation are MUCH MUCH MUCH more serious.
They to me are the most dangerous criminals the stranger who rapes you was a stranger So, would you tell a woman that's REALLY been raped that she shouldn't complain, because at least it was a stranger? Cold. Also, I can guarantee you that women who would take advantage of this type of law would be using it against strangers, sometimes. Or do you believe that no woman would ever jump into bed with a stranger?
THESE MEN KNOW THIS AND ARE OUT TO DESTROY YOU No, they're out to get their wick wet and just don't care about hurting you...it has nothing to do with your paranoia about being "destroyed". If something like this would destroy you, then keep your legs closed.
PUT THEM IN PRISONNNNNNNNNNN ASAP So, do you suggest that we set the REAL criminals (you know, the murderers, REAL rapists and pedophiles) free to make room for the guys who just got some consentual sex out of a woman who decided she was "destroyed" by it afterwards? Good plan. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 7:15:35 PM |
i have many females net friends who more and more have been a victims of this sort of misleading un-savory behavior!
I'm sure Many have 'friends' , that have been 'victims' of such. (and? Many have Been - themSelves)
MisLeading , UnSavory = NOT Illegal.
do you truely think the act or practice of deceiving, concealment or deliberate distortion of truth for the purpose of someones sexual gain is duplicity that the law should protect???
'Concealment'? As in the feller (or gal) Might be Married? In anOther relationship? Just plain doesn't want AnyThing More than Sex? All LIES (Plain,Simple) = NOT Illegal.
'Distortion of Truth'? Again ^ 'Duplicity'? Oh bruuuuther ... what a *facncy pantsy* way of saying 'Tricked a SUCKA'
tricking sex out of people is so doggish in my opinion and very low life! whats your views?????????
Sure , i spose - AlThough , i have Never (MySelf) been *Tricked* into SEX. (that i can recall ) Have ~I~ done zee *Trickin*? MySelf? Hmmmm, (ooooh , i Was a Scandalous Young 'lady' - 'Back in da Day' )
'Doggish'? = NOT Illegal. and, to Answer the Question..."NO"! I most Certainly do NOT think/believe/feel/wish THAT: There Should be Any 'More' LAWS - that would likely go UnEnforced AnyWay. There are AlReady Too Many R E A L CRIMINALS , that Need/Beg ... 'Tending To'
Unless the Sexual Offense of *tricking* is Against a MINOR? NO LAW
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 7:37:01 PM | Original poster of this thread WELSHFUCHSIA.............I wish you would not have left this thread because you have brought up a very interesting topic and I really don't think you or your friend have anything to be ashamed about..........please I am asking you to come back and would welcome any response. I think there are a lot of profiles on POF that should say "JUST LOOKING FOR SEX" not Friends, Dating, Long-Term Relationships, but they deceive because they know no one would answer them.............THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISHONEST.
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 7:59:18 PM | That's all we need- another law or regulation to have to worry about. If we're going to punish guys for tricking a girl into an intimate encounter- then why not laws to punish girls for leading someone on with the promise of sex or anyone stringing someone along for the remote hope of a relationship? Where would it end. As frustrating as this is now, it would not be worth the loss of freedom in exchange for an elusive promise to make the world a better place.
Now on the other hand, a law to hold politicians responsible for keeping their promises. as another contributer suggested- sounds rather appealing!
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 1/18/2008 8:04:06 PM | I've never heard of this happening. Most people have the sense to know when something is wrong, they just choose to ignore the signs so that they can see/feel things that aren't there.
If people took a few seconds, breathed, and realized that real life isn't a movie-- stuff like this wouldn't happen.
Don't have sex at a time when it can still be considered "casual" and this isn't a problem.
I've known people who have thought that EVERY relationship that they've ever been in would result in marriage. After a while it becomes difficult to feel bad for them when a relationship implodes, 'cause they do it to themselves. I don't want to sound unfeeling.... but this seems very, very silly. | |
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