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 Author Thread: Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
 nickphilosoph

Joined: 10/26/2007
Msg: 526
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 2:56:09 AM
Re post 539

The passage quoted by post 539 does not actually refer to rational behavior. A ma who invests so much time and effort to a woman does not bail out after only one "bad" sexual encounter, one would expect he would give his "investment" a few more chances.

The conclusions one can thus rationally draw are:

a) The encounter was very very very bad in essence or in "psychology" (very disappointing)

or

b) The man is not a rational investor.

But of course in either case, the proposal of the Opost has no grounds. If anything, one could ponder on a proposal to legislate some kind of reparations to him for time and money invested or emotional distress! Or have the state finance a sex ed class for both of them, with incentives offered to take it together!!!

Else, it is his and hers sunk "cost" of time, at least! And time is the most precious of "goods".
 midnight chatter

Joined: 12/28/2007
Msg: 527
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 4:59:32 AM
so essentially you are saying that everyguy that tries and does get you into bed, should be arrested, cause you got your feelings hurt? Most relationships do not end on a positive note, thats why they are ending. people change, people fall out of love, or out of like. Daggone, the cops could walk into any nightclub at any time and arrest most of the people there, cause they are looking for a good time with the opposite (sometimes same) sex. Would be nice, "Officer, arrest that man, he hurt my feelings"
 2BlovedeternalE

Joined: 10/20/2007
Msg: 528
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 5:10:57 AM
I believe that it's most often referred to as
*Self-Defense* . .
Kick his @$$ and call a Cop . . !!
 nickphilosoph

Joined: 10/26/2007
Msg: 529
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 5:56:30 AM
from post 541


<div class="quote"> "Officer, arrest that man, he hurt my feelings"

Actually, that is not an impossible futuristic scenario, for men AND women, at least in an ultra PC etc USA, let's say by 2030, especially if certain "pressure groups" have it their way in public policy!
 whitetigeress

Joined: 6/28/2007
Msg: 530
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 6:45:30 AM
Yes, picture it...
Said man spends money on dates, let's say 2 or 3 per week.
He spends time with the woman.
He gives up spending time with friends to be with this woman.
Then he gets sex from her after months of trying and then BAM!, he's gone.
Yep, SHE got tricked.
His plan was perfect.

^^
not, i say he got tricked
ever thought maybe she held out so he could spend all that money on her taking her out ?
kinda stupid though.. it makes her a ho if you think about it

to me, when a man does the disappearing act after sex.. all he is a COWARD
 Amber_Eyes4U

Joined: 6/20/2007
Msg: 531
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 6:52:21 AM
"ladyofShalott" I agree with you somewhat. But maybe there shouldn't be "retribution" unless the deception was really awful, then it should just be warn other women. What if the truth was this: the guy has spent months with a woman, takes it further, then finds out she's a psycho nutjob that all of a sudden wants to marry him, stalks him, gets obsessive right after "the deed" which is what the op was talking about. (She of course didn't say her "friend" went psycho, but of course I think we're all missing key parts here. Since the op has deleted her profile, I guess we won't have a chance to figure this one out.) In that case, he should just be allowed to leave, period. Why try to get back at the poor guy? I know of a few guy friends that this has happened to. It's scary for them. And yes, it happens to women! I bet you know of some, they meet a nice guy, he goes nutty, "falls in love" quickly, proposes, etc, perhaps shows up everywhere (stalker) and then the woman thinks "Freak!" and tries to escape. Should she be sued or have retribution? I get your feelings completely. We've all experience the "what an A..hole!" Maybe the retribution should be just move on, be happy with yourself, keep yourself occupied, then the right one will come along. It's happened...
 bugsi

Joined: 11/26/2007
Msg: 532
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Posted: 1/18/2008 8:21:47 AM
There are laws to protect people in extreme cases where the intentions are malicious or cause loss of property etc.
 AceOfSpace

Joined: 5/28/2007
Msg: 533
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Posted: 1/18/2008 8:35:32 AM

to me, when a man does the disappearing act after sex.. all he is a COWARD


This is much closer to the truth. Sigh ...

Can't legislate against that!
 Rhett1

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 534
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 1:03:01 PM
Lady: I think you misunderstood...I was agreeing with you.

Whitetigress: I think you also misunderstood...my post was dripping with sarcasm. I was saying that he definitely was not the victor in this scenario.
The implication was that she IS a ho if she takes advantage of the dates and all, then wants to run to the police with a story of being tricked into having sex after months of dating.
 coarlan

Joined: 12/19/2007
Msg: 535
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 1:08:15 PM
how can you be tricked into a sexual encounter?

You either agree to it or you don't.
sorry but my opinion is if your know thats what the persons after, and you agree to it you only got yourself to blame!
 LOVELY_LISA88

Joined: 10/19/2007
Msg: 536
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Posted: 1/18/2008 4:38:56 PM
It is called SOUL MURDER
it is rape
there should be a law against it
and how dareeeeeeee that woman say its the womans fault for her being so stupiddddddddd
we woman need to stick together
its woman like you that give woman or humans a bad name ugh
but its like overt or covert violence
like now they see that emotionally and mentally abuse is as bad or worseeeee than physicial at least when it is physical you can see it show it
get him for it
but with emotional its worse but the courts now see this as legislatable
SO SHOULD THESE MOST DANGEROUS CRIMINALS CALLED SOUL AND TRUST MUDERERS
They to me are the most dangerous criminals
the stranger who rapes you was a stranger
ITS LIKE WHAT A JEWISH WOMAN FROM A CONCENTRATION CAMP SAID TO A WOMAN WHO WAS MOLESTED BY HER PARENTS
AT LEAST WITH US WE KNEW IT WAS THE ENEMY
AND COULD STICK TOGETHER
ABUSE FROM SOMEONE YOU TRUST IS MOST DAMAGING
THESE MEN KNOW THIS AND ARE OUT TO DESTROY YOU
PUT THEM IN PRISONNNNNNNNNNN ASAP
 Rachelle~C

Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 537
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 4:52:16 PM
If you can't trust yourself to make wise decisions and that sometimes no matter how careful you are some people will take advantage of you ,then perhaps you should stay home with them blinds drawn and never date again.

You can't trick someone into having sex with you.You obviously wanted to have sex as much as they did otherwise you would of kept your clothes on.If no one is holding a gun to your head or a knife to your throat then you are not being raped. Consenting to sexual activity is not rape.Rape is someone having sexual intercourse with you against you will.
 mahogany_rush

Joined: 7/18/2007
Msg: 538
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 5:36:47 PM
Im shaking my head in disgust that someone would have the audacity to compare Rape to someone tricking someone into having sex , that totally p isses me off. There should be laws for people like you

Im not going to address the other comments, lets dumb it down for the likes of you Lovelylisa88, the woman in question had a choice she could of said NO.
Unlike rape victims they don't get that choice to choose, call it what ever you want .... your sister in the sisterhood made her own choice, just like and this is off topic, if im out with a woman who does coke, and she tries to trick me into snorting it because I don't and never done coke, I have a choice do it or not, same thing in this case , the OP said her friend was with the guy for over 4 months she still could of said NO, Nada, Nyet, I don't think so or as my southern friends say " go on and git"
 smileee4u

Joined: 11/8/2007
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Posted: 1/18/2008 6:31:41 PM
I let a police officer in my home once. We was an instructor at a Defensive Driving Course... you know, traffic school. My husband had left me, after a twenty-year military career marriage. It had been only seven weeks since my X left me. During traffic school, this cop (instructor), asked if anyone wanted to have lunch with him. Of course, I volunteered. I poured my heart out to him over lunch, exchanged cards, and he called over the next few days. He ended up raping me at my house a week later.
 Stove Top

Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 540
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Posted: 1/18/2008 6:36:32 PM
I'm really sorry to hear that ^^^ there are definate laws in place for that and I hope you took full advantage of those laws.
 HuggableLovable45

Joined: 10/19/2007
Msg: 541
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Posted: 1/18/2008 6:39:02 PM
No one can trick you if ya dont wanna go say NO
 Rachelle~C

Joined: 12/27/2007
Msg: 542
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Posted: 1/18/2008 6:39:20 PM
Smileee4u i am very sorry for what happened to you,but what does that have to do with the topic we are discussing?You were raped .This is nothing like a woman who decides and chooses to sleep with a man and then later regrets it.
 Rhett1

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 543
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 6:42:24 PM
Lisa:

we woman need to stick together
What? If a woman is being an idiot, I'm sure as hell not going to stick with her just because she's a woman. I will decide whose side I'm on based on my belief system, not based on which side possesses a vagina.

it is rape
That's sad. It's not rape if the woman is stupid enough to think that one night with a man will give her some sort of commitment from him.

its woman like you that give woman or humans a bad name ugh
Women OR humans? Thanks for sticking up for women...yikes.

SO SHOULD THESE MOST DANGEROUS CRIMINALS CALLED SOUL AND TRUST MUDERERS
Sorry, I had to take a break there to clean up the coffee I spewed all over my screen..."most dangerous criminals"? What the hell fantasy land are you living in? I do believe that crimes such as murder, REAL rape and child molestation are MUCH MUCH MUCH more serious.

They to me are the most dangerous criminals
the stranger who rapes you was a stranger
So, would you tell a woman that's REALLY been raped that she shouldn't complain, because at least it was a stranger? Cold.
Also, I can guarantee you that women who would take advantage of this type of law would be using it against strangers, sometimes. Or do you believe that no woman would ever jump into bed with a stranger?

THESE MEN KNOW THIS AND ARE OUT TO DESTROY YOU
No, they're out to get their wick wet and just don't care about hurting you...it has nothing to do with your paranoia about being "destroyed". If something like this would destroy you, then keep your legs closed.

PUT THEM IN PRISONNNNNNNNNNN ASAP
So, do you suggest that we set the REAL criminals (you know, the murderers, REAL rapists and pedophiles) free to make room for the guys who just got some consentual sex out of a woman who decided she was "destroyed" by it afterwards? Good plan.
 Stove Top

Joined: 12/9/2007
Msg: 544
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Posted: 1/18/2008 6:52:56 PM
Lovely Lisa: Your profile says you are a "therapist". With all due respect ~ I hope it is a massage therapist or the like ~ and nothing to do with psychology.
 SUCKAFISH

Joined: 7/20/2007
Msg: 545
Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 7:15:35 PM

i have many females net friends who more and more have been a victims of this sort of misleading un-savory behavior!


I'm sure Many have 'friends' , that have been 'victims' of such.
(and? Many have Been - themSelves)

MisLeading , UnSavory = NOT Illegal.


do you truely think the act or practice of deceiving, concealment or deliberate distortion of truth for the purpose of someones sexual gain is duplicity that the law should protect???


'Concealment'? As in the feller (or gal) Might be Married? In anOther relationship? Just plain doesn't want AnyThing More than Sex? All LIES (Plain,Simple) = NOT Illegal.

'Distortion of Truth'? Again ^
'Duplicity'? Oh bruuuuther ... what a *facncy pantsy* way of saying 'Tricked a SUCKA'



tricking sex out of people is so doggish in my opinion and very low life! whats your views?????????


Sure , i spose - AlThough , i have Never (MySelf) been *Tricked* into SEX.
(that i can recall )
Have ~I~ done zee *Trickin*? MySelf? Hmmmm,
(ooooh , i Was a Scandalous Young 'lady' - 'Back in da Day' )

'Doggish'? = NOT Illegal.
and, to Answer the Question..."NO"! I most Certainly do NOT think/believe/feel/wish
THAT: There Should be Any 'More' LAWS - that would likely go UnEnforced AnyWay.
There are AlReady Too Many R E A L CRIMINALS , that Need/Beg ... 'Tending To'

Unless the Sexual Offense of *tricking* is Against a MINOR?
NO LAW
 Darrr

Joined: 3/14/2007
Msg: 546
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Posted: 1/18/2008 7:37:01 PM
Original poster of this thread WELSHFUCHSIA.............I wish you would not have left this thread because you have brought up a very interesting topic and I really don't think you or your friend have anything to be ashamed about..........please I am asking you to come back and would welcome any response. I think there are a lot of profiles on POF that should say "JUST LOOKING FOR SEX" not Friends, Dating, Long-Term Relationships, but they deceive because they know no one would answer them.............THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISHONEST.

Your point to this thread is not without value
 Born2bewild62

Joined: 4/8/2007
Msg: 547
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Posted: 1/18/2008 7:59:18 PM
That's all we need- another law or regulation to have to worry about. If we're going to punish guys for tricking a girl into an intimate encounter- then why not laws to punish girls for leading someone on with the promise of sex or anyone stringing someone along for the remote hope of a relationship? Where would it end. As frustrating as this is now, it would not be worth the loss of freedom in exchange for an elusive promise to make the world a better place.

Now on the other hand, a law to hold politicians responsible for keeping their promises. as another contributer suggested- sounds rather appealing!

JF
 Rhett1

Joined: 10/16/2005
Msg: 548
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Posted: 1/18/2008 8:04:00 PM
Hey, can I sue the guy that winked at me the other day, then didn't give me his phone number? What a jerk! I am absolutely devastated by this.

While we're at it, can I sue the ex because we spoke of getting married, but we never did? I want restitution!!!
 .Marc

Joined: 2/11/2007
Msg: 549
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Posted: 1/18/2008 8:04:06 PM
I've never heard of this happening. Most people have the sense to know when something is wrong, they just choose to ignore the signs so that they can see/feel things that aren't there.

If people took a few seconds, breathed, and realized that real life isn't a movie-- stuff like this wouldn't happen.

Don't have sex at a time when it can still be considered "casual" and this isn't a problem.

I've known people who have thought that EVERY relationship that they've ever been in would result in marriage. After a while it becomes difficult to feel bad for them when a relationship implodes, 'cause they do it to themselves. I don't want to sound unfeeling.... but this seems very, very silly.
 spacemanspiffter

Joined: 11/28/2006
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Posted: 1/18/2008 8:12:21 PM
Oh brother.

Tricks you like how exactly???

Accidentally falls into you while you both just happened to have your pants down around your knees?

Tells you he has a month to live for some sympathy sex?

Promised you a part in his new movie?


Where's that monitor brick?
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