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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 8:45:19 PM | I do not say love,if I do not mean love.
That said, I can see a problem or two with the idea that a sexual partner could describe an encounter as a "rape" after the fact, and if the other partner decides that they have been somehow "short changed". If this idea is somehow valid. I have a few ex wifes that need to be put away. I think I have been raped,molested,short changed,double crossed,and used! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 9:56:44 PM | | I personally had a friend who committed suicide because she was tricked into giving her emotions and sex. To hell to him who did it to her. But I personally think that women should understand the nature of men before playing with online dating. God helps those who help themselves. men will say anything to get a woan to bed. They may even sincerely mean it that moment and then ask themselves after the act "What have I done?" Hence my view is that laws do not really work.Woman just have to be more prudent. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 10:18:05 PM | wow i cant believe DR DON is replying to this moronic question.
well ill start out this answer with YES most men and i mean most men are dirtbags.i will admit i am a dirtbag,,some of these woman are just to easy ,or naive,or plain bubble heads.and i have met a lot on all the sites..and there are more on here i was going to meet but its just no challenge..hey its not our fault..men want one thing..sex..whether its sooner or later he will get it.if you get tricked into sex its your fault..its us men that have 2 heads..and the second head usually does most of the thinking..ever hear of thigh muscles..those are the muscles that open and close your legs..i would strongly suggest learning how to use them..WAKE UP..where have you been living all these years .on planet alpha cenbubblehead.
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 10:53:27 PM | There can't be a law against stupidity. We would all be in jail
I believe women already know what they are getting into they just don't want to trust their feelings, (that little person that is in your brain quietly telling you don't do it)
It is also called womens intuition. More wome have to learn to listen to what they are feeling. More times than not you will be right.
I do believe that no one is "tricked " into anything | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/18/2008 11:16:34 PM | I can understand where you're coming from, but this is something that has been going on since Adam and Eve. It's not only men that do it to women, it can be the other way around.
This would be a very touchy and tricky law. Think about it, how would you prove something like that? If it becomes a law, then I guess all liars would be in jail. There would be no one left, haha! Yep, everyone lies, whether you admit to it or not. It may be those lil white lies, but we all do it.  | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 12:36:58 AM | I wonder how women would feel if all of the sudden men could press charges against them for "accidentally"getting pregnant.If that's not trickery i don't know what is.There is no way that birth control is failing as much as how many so called unplanned pregnancies there are.
Anyway if he chose to lay down and have sex then it was his own foolish mistake for either believing she was using birth control or not using any himself.It's the same with women who choose to have sex with men .There are no guarantees.So if he plays her for a fool or lies to her it's because she let herself be lied to and played for a fool. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 7:01:08 AM | I'm sorry that happened to your friend.. however I think perhaps she may have had a lot more issues prior to being "tricked" into giving her emotions and sex. Her state of mind may have contributed to her allowing herself to be "tricked" though (I would imagine)
I personally had a friend who committed suicide because she was tricked into giving her emotions and sex. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 7:22:31 AM | Although I agree it's not MORALLY right to decieve for personal motivation or gain.I'm not sure our government can legislate morality either.We have many examples of that experimant...IE 'the war on drugs' and prohibition for starters.
I'm not sure why your friend would get "tricked" here.She must have liked the guy and was in the mood.Chemistry must have been there among other things for her to want to have sex with someone,yes? So are you saying it would've been O.K...had he lived up to some unwritten contractual agreement? Oh there is no rape here...that's for sure...She didn't say stop! No! Please don't do that did she? No she WILLINGLY went to bed with a gentleman that she liked! If we were to all be charged for that,there would be NO men for you to choose fom whatsoever....less virgins!
I'm not sure you know this man 'tricked" andybody into anything.....Are you saying women have no control of themselves? Gee....That's what we normally get accused of isn't it? So answer this question for me will you? Women today are more independant and capable than ever before.They have more opportunities and control their destinies more than ever before. Equality also comes with responsibility...As any type of freedom does! So why play the other end of the spectrum when it suits your motives? SHE should've taken care of her own business! Ultimately she chose as she was free to do....Sometimes things don't work out th way we hoped,that's called life!
People should communicate and be honest with each other,but one cannot assess whether this man was or not....Unfortunately some people don't have the "balls or the skill to do that"...It makes them uncomfortable! Such is the price of freedom! Tell your friend to make better choices,define what she wants clearly and upfront and she will find her road much easier.
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 7:50:08 AM | Of course there should be laws!
Oh,and lets have laws that protect people when they pay to much for a car.What about a blanket law that protects anybody anytime they ever make a mistake or bad decision or used bad judgment or "tricked' into anything? What a concept!Just think-a person dates a woman (humor me here of course because EVERYONE knows it's only men that misrepresent,right?) and she really wants just sex and the guy wants a relationship.He feels fooled!
So,off you go to the local courthouse and file your papers.In the section where you would provide a description of the incident,you write: " I really wanted a relationship.She also said she did.I really liked here and we had sex.Then she stopped answering my calls.She was just in it for sex and I feel so stupid and used".Wow!
Even in a contract ie: marriage,there's no law that says you have to stay together.That's what divorce is for.
So perhaps of singing the old worn out song about guys being players (because,we know,women NEVER are...) why don't you start empowering yourself and other women by stopping this victim role.How about using better judgment?The problem is YOUR judgment,not the men.YOU'RE letting yourself get fooled.
How about a law that bans the incessant,droning ,whining , complaining , male bashing that goes on every time a woman is disappointed.We'll call it First Degree Stupidity. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 2:31:37 PM | Peekamoose wrote:
"Even in a contract ie: marriage,there's no law that says you have to stay together.That's what divorce is for.So perhaps of singing the old worn out song about guys being players (because,we know,women NEVER are...) why don't you start empowering yourself and other women by stopping this victim role.How about using better judgment? The problem is YOUR judgment,not the men.YOU'RE letting yourself get fooled. How about a law that bans the incessant,droning ,whining , complaining , male bashing that goes on every time a woman is disappointed.We'll call it First Degree Stupidity."
Exactly. Now let a woman say it before other "victims" and male bashers attack him:
Like I said earlier: stop this behavior women! Yes, it's awful for anyone to take advantage of people. But this was someone who willingly went along with this guy and then went to bed with him but got all p.o'd when he left! This ridiculous "my feelings are hurt, what should I do? Maybe I should take him to court, because oops my panties fell off when we were together but he SAIIIIDDD..." Give us all a break girls, grow up, put back on those panties, only this time make them big girl ones, and deal with it! No one can guarantee you anything. You only look mentally deficient by yammering about a law like this! Geez, you set us back about a hundred years acting like those "stupid women" should be protected from the bad seducers! As for msg. 550 from the woman "therapist" - yeh right- (you can't spell for an educated professional & you type like a 12 year old text messenger) comparing this to real rape, and saying these are the worst criminals- are you on drugs? Worst criminals? Lock them up? Pardon me, I didn't know a seducer of willing women was worse than killers, real rapists of innocent women (forcible sex), child molestors, child abusers, elder abusers and the like! Woman I have had 2 friends and 2 relatives MURDERED in cold blood over the years and their killers didn't serve much time at all! Soul murder? Come on, is this the latests p.c. psychobabble from the far, far left or the femi-nazis? Who by the way, I'm sure they appreciate your perpetuating the dumb broad mentality by saying women can't think before they have sex! You & the rest of the whiners are helping to carry this lame brained argument on under the guise of a professional! Please, anyone who supports this drivel needs this  kind of talking to! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 2:52:05 PM | Thank you thank you Amber....I knew there were plenty of intelligent women out there that would see my point.No one (even guys!) likes to feel taken advantage of but suggesting that having sex under a false pretense ie "being talked into it' can be considered some sort of rape is absurd of course.And someone who commits suicide because of a relationship is tragic of course,but speaks to a troubled,vulnerable soul who needed help well before someone " talked' her out of her panties.The simple truth is players come in BOTH genders and CANNOT exist without people who can be played.And as long as women keep up the bashing and see themselves as victims they continue to dis-empower themselves.
I admit to be conned a few times in my life by women.Who do I blame? No one.I was hurt,angry,but hopefully learned and moved on and don't lump all women into one category.
Just look at how many women's profiles say "no players' and 'tired of the games"!
Hey,we ALL are but as long as a person keeps identifying themselves as a victim these types of profiles will always be out there.I challenge women (and men) to keep "players' out of their lives by getting SMARTER.
Thanks again,Amber! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 7:23:11 PM | | No. I don't think it should be. How about talking someone into buying something not in their best interest? I certainly think this kind of behavior is low, but where would you stop with this kinda rational for criminality? And how could a country as over-legalized and full of rampant crime possibly deal with this issue? Could your local police force handle this volume of "Crime"? How would you even prove it? Promises of the heart cannot be reviewed later to see if the person was lying. They could have been sincere at the time. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 8:00:40 PM | Are we going to compare being "tricked" into spending/giving money to a private relationship between two people?
Actually,there aren't laws to protect the former unless it's a breach of contract .What i would suggest is next time you're ready to drop trousers,draw up a contract,perhaps stating something like "You will never leave me after we have sex.Having sex this one time binds you to me forever". Then,have both parties sign on the dotted line.
My prediction is the next pathetic unrealistic thread will read something like "Why won't anyone have sex with me?".
Read what people are saying: If you let yourself get tricked into things-weather sex or giving to a phony charity-it is YOU that hasn't done homework.I say it again: Empower yourself and stop being a victim.If you're grown up enough to voluntarily take off your panties then be grown up enough to take the good-and bad-that may result-and not look to your government to regulate morality.
I'd like laws that would hold Bush accountable for his lies,but that isn't very realistic is it? The people swallowed his garbage and VOTED for him.
Drop your panties and enjoy yourself because you've made good judgment about the person with whom you're having sex.If it's a mistake,get angry,get hurt,but for god's sake grow up and move on and don't compare having sex with paying too much for a washing machine at Home Depot. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 11:08:32 PM | Did the "it should be illegal" proponents even READ the OP and some of the early posts by the now-gone thread starter? This is obviously NOT a case of a coniving "player" - not that any logical, reasonable person would condone making that illegal for either a man OR a woman, anyway - but a case of a man who was interested in a woman, had sex with her, and then ran away in horror or disappointment for one reason or another.
A few pages into the thread (I can't find the exact post), the OP even concedes that the villain of the drama didn't, in fact, disappear like a nasty "player" as soon as he "got" sex from the damsel in distress. He used the "excuse" that he didn't want to continue with her because of issues she had with her ex-husband re: visitation with the kids.
I'm picturing a poor sop who witnessed his new lover turn into a bile-spitting harpy on the phone with her unfortunate ex, and the new guy thinking: "Run! Run! Red flag! Reg flag! Save yourself!" And he even had the courage to tell her why. What a bunch of hypocrites! So much for respecting "honesty." Only if it's what you want to hear? Yeah, that's what I thought.
In a way, I'd love to see the supporters of this inane idea get their lovers into court, as long as the "defendant" has a competent lawyer and counter-claims of "false advertising, misrepresentation" and maybe even "fraud" against the accuser are equally weighed by the justice system.
"Your honour, my client feels deceived about the character and mental stability of the complainant, and counters that he discovered after their only sexual encounter that she was an extremely creepy person who hid it well, but treats the father of her children like dirt. Furthermore (sidebar requested to discuss details, out of [probably undeserved] respect for my learned collegue's client), the defendant feels that the litigant tricked him into thinking that she actually WANTED to have sex with him, when in fact she had very unsatisfactory sex with him to TRICK him into a relationship. Damages in the amount of X dollars are requested." Hmm. Doesn't sound so good, now, does it?
Twerps. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/19/2008 11:32:14 PM | Your Honor, Were here today to try this case that has been set forth in the for seen matter of him verses her.My client would like to enter a plea of NOT GUILTY.And we move for dismissal of all charges set forth in the complaint.
Reasons listed...First off the only witness to this case has disappeared.
second this case is based on pure hersay which is inadmissable in any court in the land.
third my client is the one who has had wrong doing here.Lets look at the facts of the case.
My client spent a long period of time and money investing in this lady.With the promise of securing a good a rational relationship with said woman.After all this investment they decided to move things to the next level.Upon doing so,She started harassing my client.Calling day and night.Even at work your Honor.She totally changed.And became someone else.The only thing that he could do to save his sanity and employment.Was to end all contact.Truth was he is the victim here.And wishes all slander of his name and stalking activities would cease.......We thank you and wish to not take up any more of this courts time.... | |
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Posted: 1/19/2008 11:44:45 PM | PLEASE PLEASE, DO NOT USE THE WORD RAPE WHEN YOU HAVENT BEEN RAPED !!
You have consented to opening your legs ! How naive can you be thinking all these men are telling you the truth ??
Maybe keep those legs crossed till your wedding day !
Having sex with someone does not mean they will be committed to you !
Take it as it is, a bit of fun !!
Chill girl , please  | |
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