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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/28/2008 12:30:24 PM | | If this is passed they better start building a lot of prisons- I have been the victum of many young and beautiful women dishonestly tricking me into sex. Telling me they want a relationship, and that I am so special, they connect with me, they want to have a family, saying all the right things, only to find out it was just to get in my pants. this type of behavior is criminal and should be punished to the full extent of the law. | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/28/2008 5:35:13 PM | Opie...from a legal standpoint it would never fly and I will try to explain the reasoning behind this. Speaking for the Candian justice system, without getting into legaleze, there are two systems here..criminal law and civil law. You are trying to claim that this would be like a rape situation and that would never fly. First of all, it is hard enough to get covictions in situtations where it truly is a sexual assault, let alone trying to prove that this would be another form of rape with concent. There is no such thing...the lack of consent must be there for it to even be considered by law enforcement as a criminal offence. You are an adult and when you consent to having sexual relations with someone, it is up to you to make that choice..you can always say no. Can you imaging how burdened the judicial system would be if judges had to try to get into someone's mind and prove there was no intent to deceive...thats just not going to happen. Too many innocent me would be accused of rape by women who are angry that they got dumped. Can you see why it just would not work...rape is a criminal offence and has to be proved and the burden of proof is too high.
As for as suing in a civil situation, you can sue for breach of contract and contract law is not even applicable here. The only other way to sue someone would be in Tort, and even that would not work. The law expects everyone to understand there are certain risks involved in any type of relationship, whether it is of a business nature or personal nature and the law expects you to always minimize the risk and to be able to forsee any potential consequences, good or bad that arise from the relatioship. Businesses
obviously have a higher standard of care, but even then it is very hard to prove there was some sort of negligence or intent to decieve. When you get into a relationship with someone, unless you are a minor or mentally incomptentent, it is next to impossible to argue that you did not know what you were getting into or the risks involved. We are guaranteed certain rights under our charter of freedoms and fundemental rights, but the right to not be hurt by a personal relationship, is unfortunately not what one of them. Sorry, but like with any type of personal relationship, you know that there are always risks involved and if you choose to be involved with someone, you assume those risks. You cannot make it sound like you did not get anything out of the sexual relationship...if you didn't then that should have been a sign to leave. Sometimes, it really does come down to using your intuition and if something does not feel right, then there is probably a good reason that it does not feel right. Having said all this, if your ex partner conned you out of money, well that is a different story and you would have to prove that you were a victim of fraud.
There are no laws as to what you are asking and just common sense alone dictates that personal relatioships are always a gamble, whether you are male or female...learn from it, look for the signs and if it does not sit well with you, you always have the choice to say no. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/29/2008 10:19:03 AM | | Its not magicians,its how they talk to you,making you feel there will be something more,promises,or even get you drunk. Why do you think guys try to get a girl drunk,( (I HAD guys friends that were like that,made me sick) most of my friends (girls) have been there,even one of my friends cryed for what a guy did to her.We know theres a lot of things that we wouldnt do if we were sober.Most people dont know what the hell their doing or remembered what happened the night before. | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
Msg: 608 | |
| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/29/2008 10:58:56 AM |
This is absolutely ridiculous. How about these women learn to take responsibility for their own actions.
Can't play the victim and constant blame game then ....... and then what ..... actually own the situation opposed to pointing the finger ? .......... I think it's going to take a great deal of evolution before that happens. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/29/2008 12:09:11 PM | | message 610....I have a solution for you...don't drink to the point of intoxication..again this is a choice people make....if you do not want to be taken advantage of, minimize the risk ..do not drink and keep your guard up at all times...women or men cannot be pointing fingers at each other when one dumps the other..its just a reality of life....almost like buyer beware but with a human touch to it.. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 2/5/2008 2:48:15 AM | Hot and sexy: I am curious if a woman's consent given during a state of intoxication is negated (i.e. she is not responsible for her actions)
Wouldn't the same hold true for a drunken man that ignored the refusal of a woman and proceeded to rape her? Or a drunk driver that hits another car.
The legal system is ineffectual enough without validating the Jimmy Swaggart defense, "The devil made me do it". | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 2/5/2008 5:40:51 PM | Not really, yes its not good to trick someone into bed....but don't open your legs on the first date.....simple really.
I have had guys try it with me, Then been dissapointed when I don't put out.....I'm upfront and happy to have a bit of fun with someone, aslong as they are honest about their intentions so really they have no reason to lie to me....Some enjoy the game though. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 2/5/2008 9:29:30 PM | Honestly, this is one of the stupidest things I've read (and I didn't read it all, I am that quick) in a long time.
Mainly because if a woman jumps into bed with a man because he makes "promises" and she barely knows him, she is being a fool. Have some self respect and preservation. Seriously, trust takes time. People lie. If you believe the lies and get "played" too bad. Learn from a mistake and move on.
This is so obvious. GOD! | |
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Jet7
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Joined: 9/16/2007
Msg: 616 | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 2/6/2008 7:16:50 AM |
this subject on forums because i have many females net friends who more and more have been a victims of this sort of misleading un-savory behavior!
I bet you, or none of your friends says that when you are in the sack with the good looking hunk or GQ model. It is when he runs to the next booty call that you go nuts when you find that the prince charming you thought was going to be yours for life is nothing but a player.
do you truely think the act or practice of deceiving, concealment or deliberate distortion of truth for the purpose of someones sexual gain is duplicity that the law should protect???
We do what we want to do with our bodies. If we are adults capable of making rational decisions, we do not have to resort to temper tantrums when things do not go our way. God knows what kind of crap you are being told and you fall for it.
Many women complain about players and liars when they are the only ones to blame for dating them. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 2/6/2008 1:37:51 PM | Had to read your posting several times and shaking my head each time. If you do not want to have sex, no one can trick you, unless its rape and thats a different story!
If you meet someone and you both think you are in love with each other, and have sex and then one of you decides that maybe things arn't going to work out, how is that tricking you?.. If after you have sex with someone for "love" and the man realizes that you aren't the one he wants to spend time with, is he supposed to spend the rest of his life with you because you had sex? So confused right now!!
If you only plan on having sex with someone who truly loves you till death do you part, then I suggest you wait till you have a ring on your finger, (as in wedding ring) before sleeping with him, and then there is no guarantee that it will be death till you part.
I seriously think you should have thought this thread through before you wrote it. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 2/6/2008 2:30:31 PM | | Since we're into making silly laws, I think there should be a law against women who continually lead you on into believing that there might be a potentially serious relationship, when in fact she has no intention of getting serious with you. However she will gratefully accept your invitiations to dinner, concerts, drinks, etc. After a few dates you're out a few hundred dollars! I call them "date whores" | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 2/6/2008 11:52:05 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Man who thinks he should get some because he's bought and paid for it after a few dates. What is the difference between going out and buying a whore versus lavishly spending money on a woman you expect to turn into a whore by the end of the night. Answer....professional whore takes less time to make the transacton.
That is precisely why this lady
<- <- <- <- <- pays her own when when dating. | |
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