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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 8:38:54 AM | Geezus.... what a one-sided rant that was!
Hey freecandy (wow.... doesn't THAT name conjure up thoughts of free sex??).... there are women that do this sh!t to men too.... don't be pointing the finger at all men because there are men out there that do not deserve you bashing them.
Sure sounds like someone pooped on your cornflakes this morning .... take a freakin' chill pill would ya? Oh... and I'm going to post this where it should be posted as well.... in the original thread!
*copied from a thread started by freecandy1 because she "wanted to be heard"* sheesh | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 8:40:42 AM | How rude to yell like that. I'm surprised you havent gotten your account deleted. '''''PLEASE STOP ACCEPTING AND ALLOWING THIS DISPICABLE BEHAVIOR FROM MEN!!!! YOU ALL MAKE ME SICK!!!'''' The difference between the OP and myself, is that I am responsible for my actions, she seems to want to blame others. She evidently didnt know the guy who "used her" before she got intimate. dont get drunk, dont sleep with guys you dont know, end of problem. Peoples feelings change over time also. look at the divorce stats. doesnt make it right, it just is. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:17:43 AM | freecandy1: "What are we all suppose to never have intimate relations with anyone!"
BINGO, Now you're onto something....the only way to ensure this does not happen to you, is abstinence. As has been mentioned over & over, if this concerns you that much, don't have sex until you've married the person.
On the other hand, if you don't mind subjecting yourself to the possibility that this could happen to you, have plenty of casual sex.
Ultimately, it is YOUR decision, not the courts. dispute:
Have a great day!
~ds~: | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:22:02 AM | It's not misleading, you're not listening or understanding.
Sex is accepted based on prior events *not future events*.
Accepting sex is your responsibility. Dictating how far sex goes is your responsibility. Taking care of your emotional state is your responsibility.
Your problem is that you're basing your acceptance of sex on predicted future events. Future events change depending on the present. Maybe they woke up and decided they were wrong, maybe you're sexually incompatible or they don't like your body.
There is no 'consumation of relationships' there is only having sex because the events leading up to this point make you comfortable enough to enjoy sex.
If you can't handle the possibility of someone leaving shortly thereafter, you shouldn't be having sex. Yes, it hurts - and it hurts for men too, if women do it to them, the question is whether you can deal with the possibility.
Hopefully you'll get this, and I won't have to draw blunt analogies with other predicted future events.. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:26:55 AM |
...and ooops! he vanishes. That is misleading!
That also means your decision making process was not good.
Yes it is misleading...but it is reality, always has been, always will be. Men (not all) always have, and always will say and do anything to get in a girl's pants. Never gonna change. Most men I think grow up and stop treating people like this, I know I did, but some never do. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:32:07 AM |
People with character should not treat people this way.
Hmmm... just as people with character should not bash and insult others? Like this:
YOU MEN ARE PIGS SOMETIMES AND YOU KNOW IT!!! ..... and.....YOU ALL MAKE ME SICK!!!!
Wow.... pretty horrific way of treating people.
oh and BTW - I am not on this site to meet people. I only use the forums to post. My profile name bears no meaning to my character.
Is that why your profile states you are looking for long term and you describe what you'd like a first date to be? | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:36:34 AM | Yeah FreeCandy1, you have some serious issues there, we got that part, the Capital letters really helped too, thank you I might of missed it overwise.
FreeCandy1, you must be one of those ladies that experienced what the OP was talking about and by reading your rant, it has happened to you more than once in your life.
Nobody and I mean nobody is blaming the woman ( why you insist on calling her a victim) She isnt a victim, a victim has no f uckin choice, this woman the OP is referring to HAD A CHOICE, a choice she made and now regrets it, how is that a victim?
People like you make me sick , blame the low life cheating dirtbag men ( of course there are ass h oles out there) but women do have the choice of saying NO, no matter how persuasive the prick is | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:37:38 AM | There is no excuse for deception... it's despicable, I think we are all agreed on that. No people SHOULDN'T be that way and treat others like garbage.. but they do and all the whining in the world is not going to change that.
... there is no excuse for being a dumbass either.. no one ever said life was fair, no one said that all people are going to keep their promises, or tell the truth or have good motives.. no one said living is without it's risks.. and opening yourself up to another person is risky. Even when the person is sincere there is still an element of risk, because people change and grow.. and NOTHING is forever.
Someone who takes the risk of being emotionally and physically involved with another is NOT a victim.. it may hurt to be betrayed, and it is frequently sad to be left... but it isn't a crime. Perfect safety and security is something that just does not exist... life is risky.. you learn from it and move on. You learn to protect yourself.. you learn what a reasonable risk is and learn to depend on yourself.. you DECIDE what kind of emotional risk you are willing to take. Which I have come to see is the point where I won't be blaming others for my place in life, or becoming a "victim of circumstance". It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for ONES SELF.
The world owes us nothing... not financially, emotionally, physically or spiritually, or romantically. Nor is it up to anyone else to take care of us...and make sure we don't get hurt.. we do have laws that we have agreed upon to make things a bit safer and set sociological standards of behavior, but ultimately the onus in on the individual.
Or as Scott M. Peck said...life is difficult, and once we accept that.. it gets easier.
JMHO | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:43:02 AM | Yes, it is YOUR FAULT. You said yes. You wanted sex at that point, so why does it magically become sex you didn't want because they left afterwards.
Sex is accepted *based on prior events*
An analogy, although doubtless this will go over your head too.
I met an interior designer the other day about painting my bedroom, and we seemed to be on the same page about what we wanted. Finally, after a lot of discussion I got them to paint a wall. Oh my, but what a disaster!
I didn't like the brushwork they used, and whilst it appeared all glossy on the surface it was practically rotten underneath! The way they tidied the room up made me think about whether I truly wanted them to finish the room - so I went and found someone else.
Imagine my surprise when they claimed I had committed to have them finish my bedroom! I had done no such thing - based on their claims I thought they'd be a good designer, but when it came to seeing them in action they fell short of their professed standards. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:47:00 AM | | ok you,ve been heard and some very valid points but firstly why are you just blaming the men ? what about all the insecure women on these sites that are just as bad and as decietful? for example i recently met a girl through this site and on our second date i asked if there was anyone else she was seeing or messaging to which she replied no an hadn,t been with anyone 4 over a year only to find out a few days later that infact she was messaging many men and had atleast 3 fcuk buddies on the go at the time. in my book you can,t beat honesty if your a serial dater man or woman atleast respect yourself enough to be honest at the end of the day know one is going to find love untill you love yourself and being decietful to get into bed with someone is shallow and wrong ! male or female!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:54:28 AM | Good comments.......
There is no reason why you can not take the high road and think with your "large brain" first and let the" smaller" one travel behind.......
If you have certain absolute rules about sex, you will have a better chance of not being tricked, and understanding what you are doing and why.
If another wants you sexually, then they should also be willing to go with you to be tested and know that each of you bring the same thing to bed. There is nothing wrong with that, and if one thinks you are insulting them by asking, then, that is a trick in and of itself to start with.
There will be no guarantees ever when sharing with another sexually, but there is no reason to not eliminate as many potential problems, by being up front with each other and willing to prove it, then enjoy one another in all ways.
There are some of us that get tested often, even if we are not with anyone at all, just to be prepared, safe, and ready when the time comes to go down that path again. I want the one that cares enough for me to want to be in my bed, to know that I am clean, healthy, and ready to enjoy that with just them, and I expect them to do the same for me, and prove it......
Just my opinion........  | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 9:57:21 AM | You're like a scratched record - go and get some therapy.
I'd note that none of the women who've disappeared the following day on me (hell, none of my partners for that matter) have been 'professionals'. Newsflash for you : prostitution is very honest : you give them money, they give you sex.
You know what the real issue is, here? You're not open and honest about your needs, or other people's needs. People need sex, and they also need sexual experience in order to improve their skills. People lie because their desires aren't being met. If you accept sex, you accept the associated risks. Take personal responsibility. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 10:26:37 AM | In response to Laughing L - the profile is fictitious. I just stated before that I only use this profile to post here.
I guess I don't understand the need to hide behind a fictitious profile. To each their own, but that is dishonest as well.
You are very sarcastic and mean spirited You are obviously one of those women who have been abused this way and have come to accept it. I feel sorry for you. you no doubt think this is acceptable behavior cuz "boys will be boys" right? Its a shame that women just go on and keep accepting this crap instead of calling men out on it.....
I have never said that the type of behaviour discussed in this thread is acceptable. That is one point we do agree on: it is wrong to do that to anyone... male or female. What irks me is your constant bashing of others.
In your most recent post you claim that the women that treat men like this are hookers. In this regard, are you excusing the behaviour of the woman treating men like this because they get paid for it?? What about the woman that gets taken out for a couple of nice meals, flowers bought for her, maybe a small gift or two... did she not gain material things from this man that she used for sex and then walked away?
I may be sarcastic at times... I own that and proud to be at times! I do not hide behind falsities to be comfortable attacking others verbally. Mean spirited? Hmmm.... somewhere there's got to be a kettle around here that is black.... | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 11:04:02 AM | hey what about the fact that women wear make-up, is that not a lie, hell I know she don't look like that all the time, does that mean I am gonna take all women to court, and have them locked up. you what here is a way to solve your friends problem, how about you date them, is you so upstanding then you will be in quicker than those guys who they slept with. what are ya waiting for. hurry up you might miss your chance. unless you are scared of them. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 11:08:09 AM |
Is it feasible that everyone is supposed to wait until they marry someone to have sex?!!! Come on ... you know that is not likely as we are all adults here. Translation: "YOU MEN control yourselves, since I am unable to control myself"
Don't try to convince me that is my FAULT for believing someone when I should have known better. Ok. It's not your fault if you're a fool. Happy now? | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 12:29:40 PM | Candy - Don't you see that most people here agree that its not nice or polite for someone to deceive someone else, be them male or female. I guess their buddies might give them a high five after they dumped the other party, but decent folks would not.
But, YOU (or her) decided to have sex. YOU didn't have to. If you are too worried about getting hurt like this, then YOUR choice would be celibacy until marriage. Or wait longer. Or be more perceptive. Or make better judgments.
Maybe this guy was trying to just get sex and add a notch. Another possibility is that he was interested in a relationship but after sleeping together decided that they weren't compatible sexually. Its not nice to drop off the face of the earth with nary a phone call, but you can't legislate 'niceness.'
And how dare you insult Libra and basically call her an abused basket-case. She's just voicing an opinion, which happens to coincide with most others on this thread. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 12:32:56 PM | Sweet Jezusssssss Freecandy1, Did you get up on the wrong side of the bed, or are you pissed that you fell off your broom stick?
Typical male response? Santa Maria why do you insist on blaming the man, when the woman has a choice? How is a grown adult with a modicum of intelligence succumbs to trickery? what the guy puts a magic spell and her pants fell off? what kind of bullshit is that?
Sure there are guys who lie,cheat there way in to get a little something, but youre telling me a woman cant say NOOOOOOO and stick to it.
Give me a break. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters! Posted: 3/26/2008 12:36:51 PM | Yes. there should be laws agains that.
just like there are laws against peoepl tricking me into investing money into fake companies.
got it? and the fool who commented that they dont see how anyone can be tricked in to sex. well. i pitty your lack of understanding of the world and humans and evil.
PROBLEM is, how do you prove who was the victim? like, i am a male, when i get raped, no one beleives me?
and everyoen takes the girls side, even MY friends who dont even know her.
just cos i am a guy and she is a girl...
but yeah. its B.S and they destroy peoeples lives and anyone who doesnt see that is a fool or one of the exact liars we are discussing here. | |
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