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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 12:52:17 PM | So thats the problem Freecandy, you've been burned in a marriage, and guys you're trying to date are scum bags...... so you're lashing out
Tip for you , get some friggen help, you still don't get it, doesn't matter if the guy a scum bag, the woman has a choice to say NOOOOOOOOO, when in doubt , keep your legs closed, im sure the guy will eventually get the message? no. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 12:54:05 PM | Honestly, I haven't had time to read all the replys to this, but the theme seems to be the same. HOW do you get tricked into bed? Unless it is some sort of drug/alcohol induced thing that you feel sorry about in the morning.
You may have used the wrong term when you said "tricked". We all have a trusting nature to some point, but common sense should tell you that YOU have control of what you do. | |
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Wimmer
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Joined: 3/4/2008
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 12:57:04 PM |
poppabear no hunnie fortunately for me it hasnt happened to me! iam emotionally mature enough to know a faker when i see one! but i do know many women that have been victims of being tricked with sweet talk!
From what the OP said in msg10 above, I think the question should be:
Do you think there should be laws against emotionally immature people who get into sexual encounters! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 1:02:44 PM | Oh cognitative dissonance, how I love thee.
Everyone is saying something different, therefore *you* must be right. You can't look at yourself and have to put down others because it's easier.
If it keeps happening to you, then *you* are the root cause of the problem. If it's a one off - get over it, everyone else has had to go through it and has learnt from the experience.
I wonder if you can tell us exactly how long you should stay in a 'relationship' if the sexual compatibility just isn't there at all, even after trying to compromise? | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 1:02:56 PM |
Lmao this is a twisted joke right?
The last time I checked you consent to taking off your own clothes and spreading your legs. Takes two to tango.
Rape on the other hand is a different story and there are laws there.
maybe if you are a joke.
so, i mentioned something about comapnies that trick investors in to investing in their fake company...
so you dont think that should be illegal, unless the company comes around to my house and shakes me upside dwn and takes my money from me?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
please learn. dont comment to me here. let it all sink in first.
i could trick peoeple in to sex, by pretending to be a slut. but i dont.
because i would rather get married and have babies.
and girls say they want that too..
and they want a guy who has direction in life. but, they dont really do they? they say it cos its pretty...
like, when you go to the dentist, you tell him of of course i ahve been brushing and flossing every day 5 tiems | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 1:24:01 PM | Shrek, were you dropped on your head a child? youre not making one bit of sense
Companies that trick investors into investing in their fake companies, they call that FRAUD,
say that with me Sport F R A U D, and the penalty for fraud is generally major fines and or jail time.
A man who tricks( still unclear how one is tricked) a woman into having sex is a cunning b astard yes, does he deserve a kick in the nuts yes, but the woman gave in to his desires, she still has the choice of saying no, if the guy forces his way unto her its called RAPE, and hopefully the law deals with the prick effectively | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 1:24:23 PM | freecandy1, "Your conclusion is that a lot of men (maybe some woman) have no concept of what real intimacy is...Really?...God, "What would we, the little folks with limited brains do without your wealth of knowledge on intimacy issues...
Geez my Mommy never told me! 
Use sex, "for what"?...A primal urge?...Its obvious your discovery during marriage is way above the experiences of we (lot of men and maybe some woman)...Whew...Your concept is taken...
Thanks for sharing...Ive been enlightened again 
Sincerely
The Cro-Magnom Man...grunt grunt | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 1:31:43 PM | Interesting argument; if one person lies, and the other person believes the lie and acts in faith in that belief, then who is at fault?
Put it in any other context; I sell you my car which I say is in perfect condition with only 10,000 miles on it. You buy my car, because you believe me. But I am lying, the car actually has 110,000 miles on it and a bad starter. Who is at fault?
Another scenario: I turn in a claim to my insurance company for a robbery at my home, stating that I lost a 1500. bracelet in the robbery; I find an old receipt that looks plausible and use it to substantiate my claim. My insurer pays the claim. Who is at fault?
The problem isn't who is wrong-- hell, we all know the liar is the one who is wrong. The difficulty is what penalty there should be-- we don't legislate telling the truth unless there is proven harm. In the case you have, proving there is harm is the tough part. There is always the possibility of dealing with it in civil court; there used to be a claim called something like "intentional infliction of emotional harm". I don't know if it still exists or not. There also used to be Breach of Promise, but that went the way of the dinosaur. When women decided to become sexually active prior to a legal commitment, that leveled the playing field. As a woman, I believe that I can determine when it is the right time for me to become intimate with a man; recognizing that I MAY MAKE THE WRONG DECISION. Recognizing that MY TRUST MAY BE MISPLACED. But I am playing in the big league now. I don't have the right to get the vapors, and need to be fanned while I cry about "that cad" if things turn sour.
But I also want to make it absolutely clear that I am talking about a sexual relationship where both people are making their own free choice; not rape, not coerced, not date rape, not drugged, not being taken advantage of when someone truly lacks the capacity to make a determination for themselves. Those are criminal acts and need to be treated as such... | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 1:38:06 PM | i appear not to make any sense, because most humans who speak english as their first and only language do not have a borad enough grasp of the emglish language to understand me.
maybe if we had a chat at a barbecue and i could use body language, and stuff... then u would understand me right quick i imagine! peace, bud | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 1:38:25 PM | You're saying that leaving straight away is more wrong than staying in a relationship for 18 years that isn't working? I know which person I'd choose as having more common sense.
I find it terribly amusing that you're citing one of the main factors that women are generally more guilty of than men. When a breakup happens there are rarely any sensible discussions, and what few reasons are presented are often lies ('it's not you, it's me', 'I'm just looking for friends', 'I think I really need blab blah') or an inability to understand their own needs and motivations.
Would you really be happy if the reason for dumping was 'you're fat, lousy in bed and you smell horrible' ? I doubt you'd want to know that, and even if you did it doesn't help because it only tells you that it didn't work in bed with that person, not that you have an inherent flaw. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 2:05:12 PM | huh Shreks appeals, what was that Yoda lingo? my point was why are you comparing company fraud to something thats not illegal, consensual sex isn't illegal sport, I don't agree on the method a few Jackwackers do to get the girl, but if she consents it was done by her choice? get it now.
The whole notion that there should be a laws protecting people who claim they were " tricked" is laughable, JUST SAY F UCKIN NO if you don't want to. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 2:47:36 PM | Never have I commented on the forums, but this was such a foolish question that I felt obligated to shed some light. No, there most definitely not be laws against "game players that trick you into bed" because there is no such thing. A "game player" will not "string a woman along for months" because he has neither the patience or time. Do you actually believe a man would invest countless hours of time with a woman, and spend all his energy for months just to squeeze ONE sexual encounter out of her? If sex was the only objective he'd pick up an easy girl at the bar, or a hooker.
Your "friend" was not a conquest. I think it is sad that she feels she has the right to play the victim just because the relationship didn't last forever. Life is not a fairytale. As a grown woman she should have already have figured out that having sex with her boyfriend wasn't going to make him bound to her forever. If she were intelligent, she would have known he was able to stay or leave, at ANY time, regardless of whether or not she was sleeping with him. You connote sex to be like an anchor, that should have restricted her boyfriend from ever getting away. A relationship cannot stand still perfectly forever. Things will change, for better or worse, and if its the latter the only resilient thing to do is stop wallowing in self pity, realize it is over, and find someone else. Just because he didn't marry her doesn't mean she was tricked. Things can't always go her way.
Also, your "friend" consented to sex. She is an adult. Everyone has made choice in their life they regret. Just because it was the wrong choice doesn't make them the victim. She was not "tricked." Mistakes are simply errors to learn from. Take it for what it is worth.
Now she knows if she doesn't want her soul "destroyed" again, don't gamble with it by having sex with guys that can come and go. Tell her that concept is commonly known as "waiting til you're married!"
To quote you; "isnt casual sex meant to be a both party consented thing on both sides! "
If it was just "casual sex" tell her to stop crying about it. It's time for you to step up to the plate as a friend and tell her how it is. Casual means no strings attached.
I do agree with you on one thing. There should be a law in place to control this situation.
There should be a law against desperate, naive, foolish women dropping their panties willingly for a man, and when things don't go their way, playing the poor victim and coining terms like second class rape . Second class rape....You should be ashamed of yourself. How dare you compare a woman violently brutalized and violated against her will, to a woman who willingly agreed to have sex with her boyfriend. A raped woman has no say about what is about to take place as her life is at risk. Your "friend" happily agreeing to be intimate with someone she loved about is NOTHING like rape. I am disgusted that you would even compare the two. Shame on you.
A "promise of long lasting love" should make no difference. A guy I dated gave me one of those speeches once, when I didn't give in it ended. Two weeks later he moved onto a family member close to me and gave her the identical speech, she gave in instantly. As she later told me, he actually used the word guarantee. "I guarantee you if we take this further we will be together for a long time, I don't believe in short term relationships." He disappeared after the one night stand. As of last summer I learned he now is on POF, but women shouldn't have to be warned. They shouldn't be warned for the same reason there shouldn't be a law. Women should possess enough intelligence and self respect to not put themselves in front of the gun. If a guy promises forever, as I don't believe your friends boyfriend did, it is code for as soon as I can get what I want. There is NO SUCH THING AS TRICKERY! There is such thing as a LACK OF COMMON SENSE AND SELF RESPECT!
I think its about time for you to take your own advice as well.
"Grow up this is debate! and a place for open opinions and views!!!"
Stop disagreeing with other posts because they state valid points contradictory to yours!
No, they did not "miss the point." The are trying to make known the blatantly obvious answer to your question , because you obviously cannot figure it out for yourself.
Let this be a lesson to your "friend." If she can't handle a relationship failing after sex, tell her to keep it in her pants until she's married. PLAIN AND SIMPLE! | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 3:17:11 PM |
I stayed in a relationship like that for 18 yrs.
So you wasted your life and now blame everybody else by not wasting theirs.
I know misery loves company, but you're being too much.
I'm talking about stopping all communication = "dumping" someone IMMEDIATELY after you've had sex with them , whether it is a week/1 month or 2 after they have developed a trust level in you.
Perhaps you should use a different deodorant brand. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 3:27:50 PM |
is not that person carrying out a form of rape?
Are you related to the OP in any way?
Live in the same area? (check the water)
Only to a person who takes no responsibility in their lives for the choices they make! AKA drama queens and kings..
I though the thread topic was the end of the line for "the dumbest people in the fecking world" but then you post this retarded question as though you are seriously asking a question!
Unfeckingbelievable!
~Belly~ | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 3/26/2008 8:07:27 PM | ^^^^ Agreed it is Unfeckingbelievable! Yes, I think there should be a law that when you tell a man that you want to he should quit what he is doing and run and just in bed fully ready to do whatever you tell him to do.  
There should be a law!!
No one can trick anyone into sex. You say no. He quits. You say yes or don't stop him you have said yes in a round about way and that is not rape. Get Real | |
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Wimmer
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Joined: 3/4/2008
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