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naeco
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Joined: 12/16/2007
Msg: 51 | |
| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:05:46 AM |
and maybe should be seen as second class rape??
I've never heard of anything like this in my life. When he pulls his d!ck out, you know what's going on. If you don't want sex, you say no. If he won't stop and forces you into sex, THEN you go screaming rape. But don't go around trying to make men liable for rape when all that happened was that you didn't to use better judgment and keep your legs shut.
Though I don't think it happens that often, I think there's still too many women that claim rape when in actuality they regret sleeping with someone, and they want some way to justify the sexual act. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:12:42 AM |
.but personally i perfer to use my wisdom from my very male dominated up bringing and conform to monogamy rather date what seems pologamists!
Hey, sweetie, although it might be too late for you to stop and salvage any seeming wisdom that you might possess, I suggest that you not say anything else.
Your logic is faulty and contradictory. Are men cavemen? And did your "male dominated" upbringing teach you that they are?
When did monogamy and polygamy enter into this conversation? What does it have to do with the issue at hand? The man who took advantage of your friend obviously wasn't a polygamist or he would have just moved her and all the other women in with him. He would not needed to lie about anything!
the world suffers too much greed and self graticfication and lacks alot of abstinence for the right partner..
Have you practiced abstinence? No? How will you explain that to your "right" partner" That you had to try out other men before you found the right one?
without sounding sexist...because iam full aware women also do this sort of thing to men also! but in my defense as a female maybe women are becoming more and more like cavemen..just to rebel against the sexe,s.
But that whole statement reeks of sexism. When women do "improper" sexual actions--they are only emulating men? Were women pure and innocent before being corrupted by males? It seems that although your upbringing was by wise males, all males are scum and responsible for all sexual impropriety and misconduct.
I am a feminist; I am the first to step forward and speak of the injustices of the patriarchy, but your seeming condemnation of men being the root of ALL evil is a bit off base.
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777shy
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Joined: 12/18/2007
Msg: 54 | |
| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:13:49 AM | | I absolutely believe there should be laws against what I refer to as "psychological rape." To fraudulently claim one is looking for a longterm relationship, a partnership, a spouse, and utilize an "act" of "pretense" in that direction, only to sexually, if not monetarily also, steal from others, is indeed an act which should be prosecuted by law. And, I will go so far as to say, that if the victim's children have been involved, in the context of an individual warming up to the victim's children to increase the potency of his/her intended act of fraud, then compensation should be made for that abuse and thievery, as well. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:20:03 AM | More laws! By God, yes, that's what we need! We could go even further and create a special holding facility for people like that, on some offshore island, and just keep them there for months or years without access to an attorney! That'd show em! Maybe even torture them a bit, just to show 'em who's boss . . .
Or . . . how about this, OP? Don't ever have sex with anybody unless you really, really want to. Then, if they disappear the next day for some reason, you can both feel happy in the knowledge that you got want you wanted. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:21:16 AM | I don't honestly think laws regarding this behavior are possible. People who lie, cheat and mislead will always be around. We will not always be able to detect those red flags until we are already emotionally involved.
Promiscuity is rampant; I do not see that changing anytime soon, either. I offer no cure, but, as I think back to childbirth....painful as it was at the time, I made the decision to go through it again. The pain was temporary. I have never regretted the beautiful children it produced. I have been through a few of the situations described above...some, perhaps I was duped....others, maybe I just didn't pay attention to the red flags.
No matter what, I DID live through them. And, when hurt, in time, I DID recover. And, I learned and remember what I learned. Both men and women have been hurt by what the OP describes. If I were to ask anything, it would be that we all drop the constant mention about "no baggage". We ALL have baggage; it made us what we are today.
Let's try to have a bit of compassion if one of the parties tends to take some of the baggage down off the shelf when entering a relationship which has potential for emotional involvement. And, if both parties are truly wanting to explore each other, with a thought toward the future, their ACTIONS, not their WORDS, will eventually show whether they are being sincere...even if it eventually does not work out.
Yes, these thoughts are a bit idealistic, but, you know, I still have confidence in people. There will be some who wish to do it this way. And, I'm willing to keep on looking. And, I heal easier and faster these days, while even making fewer mistakes.
Just my thoughts.
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:22:16 AM | OP.....Iam sorry that your friend got used by her fella....but unfortunately sh*t happens, I guess you have to be more perceptive when you commit yourself and this happens......you just have to buck up and move on.
Something similar happend to me in my younger years...
I thought she was the one...we talked about the " M" word once or twice....
One morning, I woke up alone with a note taped to my wee wee saying...thank you for the good times, but i don't we will work out...bye, don't try to find me.
Of course I was shattered....my heart broken.
Iam just glad she didn't use the stapler that was next to the tape....whew!
Don't be a CRUSADER for your friend OP.....just let your friend rebuild her life and move on.
Besides sex is a two way street....sometimes even four lanes, if you swing.
I hope things work out OP | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:25:20 AM | Bottom line here Welsh, there is already enough of a problem of women having regrets after a sexual encounter. Some are claiming rape, case in point Kobe Bryant, some bimbo, wanted to sleep with a high profile person and saw a chance to make money.
If you make something like this a law, then all of a sudden you would have to have a written statement saying that you consented to a sexual encounter. Plus have to have a statement from the guy explaining all the stuff that was promised to you. If you are going to do that, it kind of takes the romance and spur of the moment lust that so often happens...
Also: if you are going to go to that extreme, then you might as well get married first...
Either you want physical contact or you don't, that is the chance all of us take, male and female, you don't think women lie, sneak and trick guys into getting what they want? | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:29:30 AM |
!...but personally i perfer to use my wisdom from my very male dominated up bringing and conform to monogamy rather date what seems pologamists! the world suffers too much greed and self graticfication and lacks alot of abstinence for the right partner... players just complicate and kill romance and love! ...hence why its wrong!
I'm sure many of us agree to this as well. However, Learning the pitfalls of online dating and the signs that two people are not on the same page is key. If we all pay attention to things, then the ones that are fiening to get sex, will have very few "victims" to play with, then perhaps this ever increasing phenonmen will eventually happen less and less.
I hope your friend recovers quickly... | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:36:37 AM | | WELL SAID 777SHY! my frienddid introduce her chldren to this man to which her children were also suckered in and hurt ..when he knew all along he was just using her! i totally agree with every word you said! and i dont think there,s enough people left in this world with heart and real understanding and empathy to such subjects! everybody seems to have become too politically correct! and forgotten what being human really means! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 9:38:44 AM | I don't think I have ever been so insulted as a woman in my life! Seriously. The idea that I am soooo stupid and irresponsible with my sexuality that there needs to be a law that "protects me" from lying men? Should there be a law that says boyscouts should have to help me cross the street because I am simply to daft to do it myself?
Thanks for that reply edward can i tell you about one of my female friends who had her life destroyed by a game player! the guy led her along for months and months
There isn't a man on this earth who can destroy my life in months. Weak women like that really make me think we should go back to the days when women went from their fathers house to their husbands because stories like this = women can't take care of themselves and here the OP is just saying "I (or my friends) can't handle the real world someone make it safe for me".
after many innocent dates and she thought she knew him and abd the night he stayed at her house she was mislead into sexual encounter with him...just to discover the next day when he left...he dumped her after getting what he set out to get
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