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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 2:55:56 PM |
for a new law that "lying, providing misleading information to any person, in order to gain any benefit, should be illegal and carry jail time". Good luck with that!!
Just one example of a law already in existence in the U.S. is perjury. You don't get to lie while you are under oath without repercussions.
There are lots of other examples of similar laws about false information and lying in banking laws, law enforcement, and advertising.
It does go to show that people are much more protective of material things then they are affairs of the heart. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 4:31:58 PM |
Actually, you'll find that if you can get a goat close enough to a cliff, it'll back up instinctively. Why fight with your hands when you can have the 'real' thing ?
No cliffs or goats around here unless I go to the zoo. And ever since that ram winked at me, I'm terrified of his homosexual tendencies. Please no, don't ask. 
Besides, one those goats is liable to look at me wrong and then I'll have to sue him.
make sure not to mix up grape jelly with the hot salsa...you will be arguing with more than your hands.
I have Latin blood in me, so salsa is no problem or so said my left hand. He's nicer than my right hand and he doesn't trick me with grape jelly. Now peanut butter is another issue. I'm such a slut.  | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 4:37:52 PM | No I dont. If women didnt drop their knickers so quickly to a man that tells them everythin they wanna hear then we wouldnt have this problem.
If your niave its your problem at the end of the day. I know Ive had relationships with people whodidnt turn out to be who I thought they were and theyd probably say the same about me. Im sure Ive been lied to and probably lied as well in certain circumstances.
Take time to get to know someone, keep your eyes peeled, your ears open and get to know someone before gettin too involved! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 4:44:03 PM | | This a ridiculous thread, basically what your saying is it should be illegal for a man to be a player. True its immoral, but it's not illegal. While your at it how come it isn't illegal for women to be gold diggers. How men have fallen victim to them, why isn't that illegal. Again its immoral, and unfortunetly not illegal. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 5:01:55 PM | Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
No.
Too hard to determine if she was intentionally (criminally) tricked or he just changed his mind after the encounter. You sure don't want every sexual encounter to carry the risk of being charged with rape .
There are those in this thread that laughed, saying how can you be tricked, but of course you could be. If you hold off until you have a commitment and the commitment is phoney, it was a dirty trick. Intentional phoney commitment for the sake of scoring is pretty close to rape, but intention is key and difficult to prove. A law would be impossible to enforce. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 5:02:59 PM | Well put on that last post.......
Nix the law, really...... B U T seen this happen to my friends and it does S U C K
regardless.....the "You are my Girl...I just want a girlfriend who is mine....You and
my 3 daughters are MY GIRLS NOW...I'm a GOOD GUY"....yada yada yada...ad
nauseum...then 'Don't text, call, or email me anymore'.....which translates LOSER from
n.c.... | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 7:14:57 PM |
Intentional phoney commitment for the sake of scoring is pretty close to rape
That's called "lying." Immoral too, but rape? Here's a f^ckin' dictionary:
rape1 –noun
1. the unlawful compelling of a woman through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.
2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
3. statutory rape.
4. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
5. Archaic. the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
–verb (used with object)
6. to force to have sexual intercourse.
7. to plunder (a place); despoil.
8. to seize, take, or carry off by force.
–verb (used without object)
9. to commit rape. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 7:22:16 PM |
No I dont. If women didnt drop their knickers so quickly to a man that tells them everythin they wanna hear then we wouldnt have this problem.
agreed.
However, i think it is very despicable, being an honest man myself, that these players do these types of things. lying and deceit gives men a bad rep.
something i shouldn't have to deal with.
i don't think there should be a law, but everyone has to be real careful out there.
think first, do later. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 7:55:17 PM | If you take the time to get to know the person and their character, I don't see how you can get tricked. If you let yourself get wooed too soon by words and not actions, then you need to learn from that and accept half is your fault.
It takes two to tango and if you consent, then it was equally consented no matter what the outcome is. You can't say yes and have sex with them and then later take it back because you felt tricked. Either you wanted it at the time or you didn't. It makes it seem like you wouldn't of had sex with them in the first place, if so, then you shouldn't of agreed in the first place. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 8:12:35 PM |
If women didn't drop their knickers so quickly to a man that tells them everything they wanna hear then we wouldn't have this problem
If you didn't drop your knickers when a man tells you every thing you want to hear, chances are good you would never drop your knickers at all now would you? The trick here that most don't seem to grasp isn't so much when and how a woman drops her knickers, but more to do with learning to tell the difference between whether all those things you want to hear is likely to be true or likely to be BS.
This notion that one can be "tricked" into having sex against their will carries about as much believability as a married Man trying to convince his wife that he accidentally tripped, in doing so tore off all his clothing, and some how he managed to land on a naked hooker...repeatedly... until the friction of falling caused him to orgasm and his orgasm miraculously ejected $50 from his wallet. Anyone buying that one? It certainly has just as much credibility doesn't it?
Have fun ;)! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 8:20:54 PM |
If you take the time to get to know the person and their character, I don't see how you can get tricked. Exactly.
In my opinion: anyone wanting the law to protect them from being "tricked" into sexual encounters, is just wanting to be too stupid and lazy to get to know the person they're having encounters with.
Adults should have to be responsible for making their own decisions. They shouldn't expect laws to protect them from their own refusal to use caution in their decision-making. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:28:48 PM | | Hmm well its the old case of he said she said and those things just dont have grounding in the legal system as its too inflexible. Lets face it, there are many predators out there, women and men alike, that think....hmmm.....challenge....let me try this one....Ive sure met my fair share of them also, but it just makes you more aware, more cautious and wide awake to how some do indeed go about it. You will always get red flags, its just a matter of noticing them and listening to them. | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:39:47 PM | I really can't believe I'm actually reading this!
Hello??? Mc Fly????
You had a choice! You always have a choice. No one unless you suffer from spells of being a blithering idiot, or you happen to drink to much, can lure you into sex unless you wanted it TOO!
Let me guess. You're the inspiration to all of those blond jokes, aren't ya? | |
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Posted: 4/9/2008 8:52:53 PM | Gimme a fuken break here,
How stupid do you gotta be to be tricked into that,Let alone post about it.
Yup blame everyone else for how dumb you are,now your talking.
No one is responsible for anything are they, no wonder the world is the way it is.
"Gee don't blame me, I got fooled not my fault my head is up my azz and im to lazy/dumb to pull it outa there boo hoo hoo, Someone has to protect little ol' me"
Better blame the person who "tricked me"
Not my fault i eat too much & got fat, blame the restaurant
Not my fault i smoked too much and got lung cancer,blame the tobacco company
Not my fault i drove to fast and smashed my car up,blame the city for not cutting down that tree i hit
The poor me club just keeps growing by the second
Glad im not in it.
Thanks for giving me the golden opportunity to be a little cynical tonight, idiot. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 9:37:37 PM | A law...no. What's really needed here for these dear sweet ones is a lesson in boundaries and limitations in relationships. It seems to me that some people (not just men) are not honest with themselves about themselves which is a telltale sign they are not ready to enter the dating world, but they do anyway. Follow me? It takes some major self reflection to prepare for dating. Immature people rush in for instant gratification and take everyone without proper boundaries down with them. They want their intimacy now without developing a relationship and getting to know the other person. Sex is the fast track to the feeling of intimacy, but it's false unless you actually know the person. Also, people can be tricky and say things they don't actually live out. Actions speak louder than words. For instance, if someone tells you they are trustworthy, but gossips to you about all their friends, hmmmm. The action of gossipping shows that the person is not trustworthy. Don't just believe what people say about themselves, you have to take the time to see if they live it too.
In the case of your girlfriends, it sounds like insecurity or not really taking the time to know themselves and what their needs are is the major issue. I would recommend that they read up on how to develop healthy boundaries before continuing dating. Cheers! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 9:43:39 PM |
then you need to learn from that and accept half is your fault
I would argue that it is all her fault. Unless this guy has telepathic powers to make her spread her legs. She chose to believe him, she chose to be gullible, she chose to get naked, she chose to open her p***y for his d!ck and chose to enjoy the ride. That bad feeling she has is called "guilt" for being stupid, naive and falling for some dude's game.
Gotta go. This website is tricking me into believing that some people just need to be pushed into traffic. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 9:57:38 PM |
Adults should have to be responsible for making their own decisions. They shouldn't expect laws to protect them from their own refusal to use caution in their decision-making.
I agree also. I think almost everyone can look back and probably regret a time they had sex with someone. Whether it was too early, realized it was the wrong person etc. But I would say the majority blame it on ourselves and our bad choice, kick ourselves in the ass and DON'T do it again. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/9/2008 11:30:54 PM | I believe yes!
While it seems the people on this forum want to place the blame on the used person, when we put ads on the dating sites, it is a signal to predators, that we are vulnerable, single, and probably lonely. They zoom in on a newbie, and are aggressive. they learned what worked in the past, and they hone their skills, on other people's suffering.
There is no reason for this to happen, and if laws need to be passed to slow them down, and stop them, then so be it.
Arizona is a no fault divorce state. I recently heard some horrible stories, and one of them involved a widowed woman, her husband left her with money, home paid in full, and no worries. She meets this guy, he wines, and dines her, marries her, gets her to finance her house, and put his name on it. 3 weeks later he files for divorce, and the poor woman had to go refinance her home again, and give this man $20,000.00. She is elderly, and Arizona should have filed charges against this man! So, this creep got away with basic theft, and this poor woman now has a huge mortgage.
Everyone is at risk! Then say all what about trust? SLICK PEOPLE ARE SKILLED, METHODICAL, SHAMELESS, AND DON'T HAVE A CONSCIENCE. IF YOU THINK THAT IS OK, THEN I HOPE YOU NEVER GET USED. IT HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF THEM. IT IS OUT AND OUT FRAUD! IN THE NEWS DAILY, JUST IN A DIFFERENT FORM, BUT NONETHELESS FRAUD! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/10/2008 9:30:27 AM |
I believe yes!
While it seems the people on this forum want to place the blame on the used person, when we put ads on the dating sites, it is a signal to predators, that we are vulnerable, single, and probably lonely. They zoom in on a newbie, and are aggressive. they learned what worked in the past, and they hone their skills, on other people's suffering.
Do you have any idea whatsoever how incredibly stupid this makes you sound? I am curious, did you even bother to read what you wrote before you hit the "post" button?
Since when does putting an ad on a dating site mean you are vulnerable and lonely? Single I would hope, but I have no clue how you equate an ad on a dating site with the other two. The fact that you believe that the world of internet dating is chock full of nothing but aggressive, vicious predators who's only intent is to bilk you of your life savings or get into your britches is probably a good enough reason for you to not bother with it, or dating in general for that matter. It certainly shows that you could definitely benefit from some personal professional help, or in the least, a tin foil hat.
If it is your intent and those of like minded people to protect people from their own innate ability to be incredibly stupid by creating laws that will affect everyone else, then I daresay the common sense solution is simply to haul you all to an island filled with padded walls so you aren't a danger to yourself or others. Would seem to me that any mature adult with even a lick of common sense that they were allegedly born with, could and do avoid these types of situations on a regular basis, making legislation completely unnecessary. I think you will find the majority of people don't end up being "used" because the majority of people have better sense than to fall for obvious BS.
Have fun ;)! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/10/2008 10:23:30 AM | Posted By: zangie
Every time I read this kind of statement, I can't help but think...someone who really cared about you, wouldn't dump you after one occasion of sex, even if it was less than hoped for, would they?..my experience says sex gets much better with time and once you get familiar with each other...or, even besides that..if you really cared about someone, you would at least make an effort to fix it wouldn't you? Or have men really gotten that cold blooded, and unemotional? You fail to live up to his standards/fantasy the first time..he's outta there?...sigh...how sad...
I have heard more women say they dumped a man for this reason then I have men saying they dumped a woman .
In saying this I am not saying dumping someone after the first sexual encounter is justified on the grounds they weren't good in bed , since anxiety and expectations are high and even emotions as well as some may feel pressure to perform that really isn't there this can all effect a sexual experience
But we have to look at the big picture too some peoples idea of sex differs by miles what others ideas of sex are , what may be exciting and important to one person may be disgusting and vile to another . I.e. ;no way I want someone urinating on me , but to some that is exciting, ideas of foreplay are different and some religions as well as laws in some states forbid oral sex , some people have more of a sex drive then others and want sex more often , If I were dating a woman that thought sex more then once a day was out of the question or thought sex once a week was enough we would not be compatible at all so proceeding with a relationship that has a strike against it already is not a good idea in the days that over half of marriages end in divorce.
like it or not sex is an important part of a relationship and just , like a person that likes to go out and drinking and partying every night isn't going to be happy with a person that doesn't drink or dance, or a person that has a strong belief or faith isn't going to get along with an atheist , you may be compatible in many other areas but some things just cause problems in relationships and sexual incompatibility is one of them . would it be better if the man/ woman stayed in the relationship but was unhappy ? or even went somewhere else to get the needs filled and then came back home .
This is a very irresponsible suggestion to think that the government should regulate our love/sex lives hell they cant even regulate the oil prices.
here is a couple laws that are now off the books that were almost as foolish;
If a woman deceives a man with cosmetics, corsets and girdles to get him to marry her that man can have the marriage annulled .
If a man catches his wife in bed with another man he can shoot both to death and be justified.
It would be crazy to make a law that would and could only be substantiated by a jilted lover. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 4/10/2008 10:40:07 AM | it amazes me how many people out there want the goverment to think for them , women have been marrying men for there money for years and men have married women as trophy wives for years ,
As a man I can honestly say there is not a woman out there that can say i have decieved her for sex , but I can also say that hearing women talk as if this suggestion is a good idea and bashing men like they have on this post is a big turnoff , to me you have to take responsability for your actions , if you allow a guy to get you in bed with false promises in a few weeks they your not ready for the dating world . and face it if a guy is just after sex he isnt going to date you for months to get it , if you have dated for months and he ditches you after sex it is probably more then just the sex. | |
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