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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 5/13/2008 8:34:33 AM | i met one guy who decieved me like that. I really wish ppl would realize that kind of behaviour is very hurtful to everyone involved including the partner you already have. If your married/attached dont go around pretending your not just to have sex w/ someone who doesnt want a married/attached person. I was devastated. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 5/13/2008 9:23:20 AM | Since the women in question were involved in "Conditional " sex, ie " I'll have sex with you after you've committed to a long term relationship", there is a body of law that applies-contract law.
The women just need to write up a contract that spells out the terms for things like duration, exclusivity, frequency, preferred and prohibited acts, etc; include the penalties for breaking the contract. Expect some fierce negotiating. Get the men to sign and they're good to go. This contract has much in common with a marriage license. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 5/13/2008 9:39:34 AM | You are an adult and it's your own responsibility to take things slowly enough so that you can gain confidence and trust in your partner. If it hasn't been a long enough time for you to believe they are devoted then don't get in bed with them.
I don't see how you're going to prove someone's intent to seduce you, unless you have cameras & microphones all over your home.
As for myself... I just have the balls to make an intimate encounter profile. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/22/2008 8:20:29 AM | "IN MY OPINION and OTHER QUALITY females opinions....VENUS is a FREAK...and not the type of MAN who cares about women...he just says MEN ARE DOGS and get used to it! Shall women or children or a few men get used to ABUSE too, just because it happens??
You're somethin' else and love having that tough boy image...but you won't meet quality women who are into males who are emotionally, verbally abusive...makes me wonder about your childhood and where your father was?!"
Hey Heart, did you not catch venus says she is female? Also, you seem a little angry | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/22/2008 8:32:14 AM | | Thread should be deleted. Nobody gets tricked into having sex. You have sex with someone because you want to, not because "oh im in love, so i guess i have to let him **** me". Hey, maybe the sex was REALLY BAD when your friends finally had sex with the guys so he left. Ever think of THAT? Or on a lighter note, the sex wasnt good enough to make up for your friends emotional defects. Who knows. If your friends are being 'destroyed' by this, be a friend and tell them to wait till marriage for sex or tell them to grow up rather than posting ridiculous threads. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/22/2008 8:33:31 AM | Ooops, my computer posted for me...
I love this thread and the marvelous ideas, emotions and the rest of the legal theories...
I can imagine the contracts that would be negotiated, the law siuts (he/she failed to fufill paragraph 92, sec, a (2) not once, not twice but three sundays in 2006, twice in one month your honor! Clearly this is mental abuse, a deliberate act of malcious intent! No french toast was made for him/her those mornings. The emotional damage can hardly be established at this point, he she is still reelling from the impact!...)
What about a law that says you can't say I love you unless you really mean it and once you say it you are not allowed to take it back? No tricking there! Or how about a series of laws that protect the innocent or niave from having sex because they want to, but the partner has misrepresented themselves in some fashion: not really emtionally available, married, ina relationship, etc:
1st degree offense is saying I love you to your partner to have sex one time. 2nd degree is if the partner had a documentable orgasm (in the case of females the males may want to make sure they understand how to induce female ejaculation for later DNA proof, or bring along a video camera), 3rd degree might be for repeated mutually pleasarble encounters. Sentencing and time off for good (or bad) behavior?
Come on people! I can't see a semi intelligent individual being tricked into a sexual experience! Consensual sex is just that: seemed like a good idea at the time... :) | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/22/2008 9:10:02 AM | because lets face it tricking somebody into bed with lies and conning them with the promise of long lasting love and maybe more!!
this is an age-old problem.
the solution is to start trusting your own instincts (aka yourself) and stop trusting other people. read the book the 4 agreements for more on that. very helpful. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/22/2008 12:08:36 PM | You can turn a trick for sex, but can't be tricked into sex. It's like saying "I accidentally had sex". I guess it could happen while you were asleep, but that would be considered rape by the unconscious. The problem is people who think having sex with someone automatically means they will be together forever. True, in a serious relationship where both parties truly care for eachother, sex enhances your connection with your partner even more. However, those believing they were 'tricked' into sex only tricked themselves and nothing more. You're setting yourself up if you are having sex with someone solely based on "He/she said they loved me". Whats the difference between having, lets say, a year long relationship with regular sex, then breaking up VS a 4 month relationship, having sex once, then breaking up?
The point is, there is no such thing as being tricked into consensual sex, its impossible. You're trying to say "I had sex with them because they 'said' they would give me something in return" - sounds like a really cheap prostitute to me. You dont have sex because they said they love you or think it will make them love you - you cant build what isn't there. When you're in love with eachother it helps build the relationship, when your not in love, its still a fun (hopefully) and beneficial (great exercise) way to pass the time. If you're so worried about someone dumping you after having sex, why do you have sex before marriage? At least if you get married you will get half his shit if he divorces you. (if he wants a pre-nup its a sure sign he's up to something)
True, there are a lot of men and women that enjoy having casual sex, but I guarantee MOST of them would tell you if you asked (lies to this type of question are usually easy to detect if brought up suddenly) and very few would string you along, payin for dates, spending time with you, calling you, and whatever just to have sex with you once. Just because you may have been dumped coincidentally after your first time having sex doesn't always mean thats all they were after. Pay attention to all aspects of your relationship. It's easy to get lost in the bliss of meeting someone new that you feel could potentially suit you long term - so when suddenly things change you're left dumbfounded and the last thing you remember was the sex so that's your answer.
In hopes of appeasing somewhat to those who still believe the garbage that you can be tricked into sex - wait till marriage to have sex. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/22/2008 12:26:28 PM | I'd like to know why no one believes in personal accountability any more.
Rape is a crime and should be punished. However, how does someone make you have consensual sex?
But you want to know what really ticks me off? The women who sleep with men and for whatever reason it doesn't work out and then the woman turns around and accuses the man of rape, thats the one that really gets me. Unbelievable. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/22/2008 12:33:39 PM |
you missing my point karla and totally overlooking what im on about! what if a guy strings a woman along for months on the belief he loves her and she falls in love with him also and feels ok and ready to have a sexual encounter with him...but all along shes just a sexual conquest to him and nothing more! then dumps her when he,s had what he wanted!? i have many female friends who have been soul destroyed by this,, they wasnt forced into sex...the vital point is they were (TRICKED)
Hmmm I find it hard to believe that a guy would invest months into a conquest.... too many easy women out there. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/24/2008 7:33:53 AM | | OP, this is so stupid... If a man should be penalized under the law for something like this (some women do it too), then the woman should be penalized for being stupid, moving too quickly, believing anything she's told, or ignoring red flags. Look, there are all sorts of characters out there, most of us have encountered them and it's up to each person to either learn from the experience and deal with the offending party on a personal basis. Of course it's not nice when this kind of thing happens, but life goes on. Would you buy a vacuum cleaner from a second-hand store just because the salesman said it was the best in the world? Good lord, get a grip. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/24/2008 8:04:57 AM | Are you proposing a law that would make any person who broke an engagement a criminal? Should it be a misdameanor of a felony? I suppose it will apply to both sexes equally. There are sure going to be a lot of people wearing orange after it passes, but the streets and roadways should have a lot less trash... i wonder if there's a way to start a highway cleanup crew dating site  baby, i love the way you stab those beer cans | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/24/2008 8:32:25 AM | It, actually, is considered a rape. Not just using a physical force is a rape.
The fact that many do not know what rape exactly is and the fact that many do not have a strong will to fight these low life people in appropriate manners, the rapist of this kind is widespread in this country. I do not find guys from Europe being like this.
Well, there are many things in relationships, beside this covered up rape, that should be punished in a court of law. Dishonesty, using someone and cheating should be, in my opinion, punishable in a court of law. Many guys totally turn me completely off by the ways they approach romantic relationships and see and treat their partners.  | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/24/2008 8:37:05 AM | If we voted in a law that would do such a thing, then we are becoming the Catholic Church. What would be next? Missionary position would be voted out in favor of the doggie position? Or I can sue you for not bringing me to the big O every night? Heh.. Hmmm thinking about this one.. In the Roman Catholic Church, I found out that if a promise of X amount of kids was not reached, that is the beginning of grounds for divorce because of a promise that was verbally understood and made by both parties before marriage.
Look at it this way.. Life is full of lessons. If you are doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, that is the definition of insanity! As a woman.. if I constantly believed men that they would marry me if I let loose for a night and then I'm dumped the next day and it happens more than once I need to start to ask myself some questions: What pool am I drinking from? Whats the common thing about all these losers.. Note to self: Avoid, and then last but not least.. Do I suck in bed or do they? Sometimes the car looks beautiful on the outside and even though I've read the lititure and listened to the sales man til my face turned blue.. I will never know if I'm committed to buying this car until I take it for a test spin. If the ride is horrible, I'm not buying no matter WHAT the sales person says or how good the car looks. ;)
Ask yourself this question: Would I really want to forcibly bind a person due to law to a committed relationship and be miserable for the rest of my and his life? Or leave before that commitment is made so that we BOTH can find a better matched person and be happy? Just a thought.. Cheers. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/24/2008 8:41:38 AM | OP - what centuary you living in hunni???? There is a law against it - its called RAPE, say no, and if they dont listen call the police. That is for both men and women.
Bodily fluids are your own and if you do not want to share them DON'T, no one can make you if they do it is like I said DATE RAPE, prisonable offence | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/24/2008 8:45:52 AM | Geez, "Are you kidding me"...I cant count how many woman have used sex to lure me into a emotional relationship...Give me a break..."Is that considered rape"?..
Dumb thread...Some woman will do about anything to con a man into a relationship...
The idea that a woman would buy the ole, "Ill love you forever, jus give me a little of that goodie between your legs"...Shows how insecure and whacked the person really is... | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 6/24/2008 6:03:08 PM | Wow, crazy. What's wrong with this picture? An alleged adult female goes and opens her legs because she made the conscious decision to do so and IS having consentual sex .. key word: .. CONSENTUAL. There is no such thing as being 'tricked' into having sex .. if you don't have any of the three ... common sense/intuition/intelligence .. or a small combination thereof, to pick up on the fact that someone is possibly playing you into a sexual encounter for the sole purpose of getting laid, then you need to stop opening up your thighs and keep your pants on because you are one dangerous lady in terms of your thought process. The most ludicrous part of the OP's post was the fact that it should be considered 'second class rape' .. wtf, if I were a guy, I would be so leery of ever attempting to have sex with a chick, even if my intentions were true, only to find out later she was an insecure headcase to accuse me of 'second class rape'?
Enough said .. time to take some responsibility for opening up your legs and recognizing that individuals have been ""tricking"" other individuals forever and .... hey, buyer beware. Check both ways, and proceed when you think it's safe. Don't want to have regrets? .. then keep your knees close together.
I'm all over womens' safety and rights, but this is simply outrageous. I'll argue this one till the end of time.
I'm really glad I am not a man and having to defend my natural tendencies t0 seduce a woman so that I can enjoy a sexual interlude .. not matter what the intent. Women have to be able to read between the lines as well. Sometimes I really feel for the men with these whackjob posts.
One word!! RESPONSIBILITY. If you can't grasp the meaning of that, then try the easier one: 'no'.  | |
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