| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 3:46:04 PM | Oh gawd do be serious. How are you going to enforce a law like that? It'll be he-said, she-said, bugger all to the bitter end, unless you want to ALSO legalize body mics, government authorized video monitors on dates, date contracts, courtship lawyers and all the other BS legalistic crap that goes with it. Be a grownup. Say no, if you don't want to have sex. If someone can be sued for "tricking" you then we'll be suing every cereal company with a "free inside" on its packaging label.
Then we'll have laws over how many toaster strudels one can put into the toaster in any 15 minute period. "Oh, but my toaster is big enough to hold 6 pastries". "We're sorry, ma'am, the law only allows 4 toaster pastries in 15 minutes". "Well then it's the toaster manufacturer's fault, for giving me all that extra space." And thus we sue the toaster companies. Now it's illegal to have anything over a 1.5 square foot toaster, so some dork invents an insert tray.....
Sigh. Litigiousness. what a great excuse not to be responsible. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 3:50:36 PM |
How do you 'trick' someone into a sexual encounter anyway?
Guy - "Hey Miss... look over there!! Down on the ground!"
Her - *turns around and bends over* "huh? where??"
Guy - *humps her from behind when she isn't looking then runs off cackling* "Muahahaha!!"
Her -- "D'oh!!! Foiled again with the oldest trick in the book!!!"
I prefer the "oops I fell awkwardly" trick. Gets em every time! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 3:58:17 PM |
Don't spout any paranoia and distrust here, that's ridiculous. If you have poor instincts when it comes to dating thats your fault. Not the fault of the girl you're dating.
I'm stating a view about what the OP's men in question may have. If you see paranoia in it and it being about my experineces with women, then you're way off and overly dramatic.
And it's not good form to dictate what someone can or can't post on a public forum. Especially if you don't comprehend what they wrote. Only control freaks have to dictate to complete strangers.
How do you 'trick' someone into a sexual encounter anyway?
Like this:
Him: "Watch as I put my finger in your belly button."
Her: "Hey! That's NOT my belly button!"
Him: "That's okay. That's not really my finger."
Okay, that was a joke. More realistically, perhaps like this:
Her: "You don't have to go. You can stay here tonight." | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:00:24 PM | There are already laws on the books to nab people who use their charm & sexuality to obtain power and control over another person's money.
Men and women who repeatedly and seemingly deliberately manipulate another's emotions in order to obtain power and control over them in general are at a minimum emotionally insecure and at a maximum potentially suffer from an anti-social personality disorder. They may even have a variety of other problems that fall within the realms of the mental health system. A small percentage at that.
But to compare women who become broken hearted if a guy leaves once he gets laid to women who have suffered domestic violence is just another example of why the whole topic of Women's Studies needs, IMO, needs to be revamped if not removed (in some cases) from the post-secondary school system. What a crock!
Your tax dollars pay for this folks.... | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:02:35 PM | I agree with those who think this is silly; we are all adults and, I am assuming, we have values. If we put those values to work along with a healthy dose wisdom how can we be played? Believe it or not I do see through the game. I am my own best friend and as such I take care not to put me in a situation I know I would not be ok with. and I have learned not to give anyone so much information about myself that they know where the magic button is.
respect yourself sweety and tell your friends to do the same!!!! | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:10:35 PM | I have heard of this from several people I have met online as well as some who I have met in real life. I understand the feeling of deception, however the promise of a lasting love from some one you just me should give you a red flag. I'm no psychic, I cant predict the future not matter how unromantic that might be. Nor will I promise my heart eternal. I can say I love right now and reference past tenses. thought if I were in love right now i think my opinion would differ.
While I think what your talking about is more than a change of heart, I wouldn't want to be going to court to explain my feelings to anyone. can imagine what that would be like. ~Listen judge, we had sex, and I was like well thats nice but I'm just not into this person as much as I thought, or whatever...
In addition to trying to legally validate emotions, legally I think you would have to come up with set standards about what is and isn't this sort of behavior. like if you go out for months and months, then finally do it and then the relationship is over, how does that compare to going out on a date or two having sex then having the relationship vaporize. Or a couple has sex a few times then the relationship dissolves then what? The thing about typical con artists is the they lure tangible things out of you. Sex is tangible but when you link emotions to sex then you start going into this fuzzy area. I guess they would call that intent. Who doesn't have intent to have sex? What is anyone going to say to something like that?
I seems (thought this could be my perception only as a guy) that most poeple engaging in this behavior are guys. There may be serial fornicators out there who are female perhaps Im just too fat and ugly to attract their attention.
In any event, Choose you're mates wisely, the maximum stands that if its too good to be true, its probably false. I guess not all guys are as awesome as me.
Er, I mean be cautious.
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Posted: 1/4/2008 4:21:03 PM | The thought was that it was okay for men to beat their wives and women should know better and be able to protect themselves.
I wouldn't say that the "thought was that it was okay" rather that people put up with it because the battered women didn't have the resources they do now to escape that kind of existence.
Perhaps rather than making a law that the op refers to. A social help network should be set up to educate and help those to "recover" from that feeling of having been used. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:22:40 PM | | ...tricked into a bad business deal...? Yes - laws against (that). 'Tricked' into buying a 'lemon' of a car / vehicle? Yes - laws against that...and ton's of other laws on the books. But a law against being 'tricked into sex'? Even if (the government's) WOULD institute such a law / laws, how in the world would the law be enforced? Possibly call the police and report 'the crime' - but then maybe people would trick others into thinking their the police. Maybe these 'police' would trick the woman who was just tricked into sex - for MORE sex. Turning too many tricks here now... | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:27:48 PM |
And it's not good form to dictate what someone can or can't post on a public forum. Especially if you don't comprehend what they wrote. Only control freaks have to dictate to complete strangers.
I'm going to quote you in response to that statement:
you're way off and overly dramatic.
The way you said it sounded like a personal experience to you. Even if it wasn't it's an overstretched generalization. Why is you think that just because people don't want to hear your whining or your logical fallacies that you're being oppressed? | |
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Posted: 1/4/2008 4:30:38 PM | Ok op first I was surprised by your age and the question you asked.
Buying a car and having sex with someone are two completely different things. As far as the cars go if you've signed the papers for it I hope you read them first.
Sex is an individual choice and either yes or no. Bad choices can be made, lies can be told, but it still comes down to someone said yes to the sex.
And having a guy wait around for months so he can 'hit it an quit it' I do not see that happening too often when they can move onto an easier lay.
Some one once posed a question on here about weather or not she was raped. She would have won the stupid award on that one, but it got deleted. Bottom line with it was went on a date with a guy, let him into her house and he then told her he usually didn't leave a dates house until after sex, so she slept with him to make him go home.
s didn't tell him no, to leave, call for help, or any of those things, she laid down spread her legs and let him have sex with her. She then wanted to say he raped her.
Does she seem justified to you?????
Rape or abuse is something done by force when someone has said no or stop and you do it anyway. It is not 'I made a bad choice but its not my fault'.
Own up to mistakes and learn from them. Move on and grow in your life.
And stop bad mouthing people because they don't agree with you, you asked for opinions and that is what your getting. | |
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Posted: 1/4/2008 4:35:50 PM |
Bottom line with it was went on a date with a guy, let him into her house and he then told her he usually didn't leave a dates house until after sex, so she slept with him to make him go home.
s didn't tell him no, to leave, call for help, or any of those things, she laid down spread her legs and let him have sex with her. She then wanted to say he raped her.
Does she seem justified to you?????
There's an awful lot of grey area in that one. Did he make her feel threatened? Like if she didn't have sex with him he would do her harm? Saying "I wont leave until you have sex with me" can be quite intimidating and maybe even threatening.
Again, don't know the details of the story. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:38:23 PM | Sorry, I haven't read the posts yet, just the tip (beg your pardon, ignoble) but I couldn't resist replying to the thread question....
Yes, there should be, and there should be laws against stupidity, but it ain't happened yet.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, OP! I get your drift, but live and learn seems to be the phrase for the day. It happens, get wiser, be more careful next time.
Fooled me once, shame on him, fooled me twice, shame on me....
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:41:57 PM | She gave all the details, he just walked in and sat on her couch from what she stated in her post. Didn't ask him to leave, didn't call the police or anything, didn't tell him no.
He didn't even tell her he wouldn't leave. She stated that he told her as he sat down on the couch, that most of his dates ended with sex. So her logic was to get rid of him quicker she'd have sex with him.
She made the choice to do so.
I only remember it all because it made me so mad when I was reading it, I thought I must have read it wrong so I had to go back ad read it a couple times.
vvvv Exactly. Makes things harder for those women to be taken seriously who were raped or abused when you get ones like that running around crying rape. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:45:08 PM | lol I dont think theres any grey area there sleepytime. It was made quite clear by the post that just didnt want him around and so let him have sex with her. Didnt sound like she sounded threatened to me.
Which is exactly why I asked "did he?" and said "can be" and reiterated at the end that I didn't know all the details :)
I agree that if that is the exact story as it happened, that it's flat out foolishness. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:46:56 PM | | How can someone truly trick you into a sexual encounter? Did they squeeze your head and your legs popped open. Having sex with someone is a choice and it comes with risks. Courts have better things to deal with than people coming to court saying that they were tricked into sex - courts are backlogged enough as it is. Or perhaps your friends should make men sign contracts saying that they will pursue more of a relationship upon the delivery of sex. | |
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| Do you think there should be laws against people who trick you into sexual encounters!
Posted: 1/4/2008 4:48:01 PM | | Depending on the circumstances, perhaps one could try to pursue action under a fraud statute. Since commerce is not involved (we hope), "false advertising" would not likely apply. Continuing with that theme, I really think it generally is a matter of "buyer beware" (caveat emptor). Whether or not one feels s/he was misled or lied to, the bottom line is that one chooses to have a sexual encounter in the situations described by OP. | |
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