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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/3/2008 9:51:42 PM | i think this posting thread is hilarious.
i am a single mom, and i make amazing money. i dont need anything from anyone. which makes me grateful every day.
i think the real question is, do real single moms care if single men don't like us? lol. i sure as hell don't.
i have the luxury of seeking companionship. and being picky as hell. im dating for two. essentially. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 10:10:34 PM | Yes frOgkiss your opinion did deserve a voice. I do not think that I have singled you out though. To be honest, I have jumped on quite a few insults and most of them were made by John. No, he is not the only one. He just seems to be the most consistent at it. I myself have given implied if not direct insults on this thread as well. Most of those were removed along with the apologies that I made.
It does get frustrating at times and you do feel like you are hitting your head against a brick wall trying to get some to understand that yes, you agree with some of what they are saying, but that not everything is as simple or black and white as they seem to think. Even if they do not agree with what I have to say, they could at least see or understand the point I am making. But it is far easier to insult rather than read and consider the point. Some seem to think that general comments are aimed directly towards them and feel that it is a personal attack. Not sure why that is. They could be identifying a little too much maybe.
Yes I remember Disney. I kind of miss her too. | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 11:02:21 PM | Thank you for clarifying what you meant, CG. We all have such different personal experiences, that it's hard to understand where the other is coming from. I'm not even sure what we're arguing about anymore, it all seems so silly now! This thread is just one big rant about all the wrongs people committed against us.
There comes a point when I wonder to myself, why do I waste time complaining instead of just living my life? It's not going to resolve anything, just make people feel all defensive. We could've written an entire book in the time we spent writing this thread! It could be titled "Why I Love AND Hate Single Mothers," since as you said the world isn't black and white.
Time is the most precious commodity in the world, so I think it's best if we spend it wisely. That's why I'm leaving the entire POF forum for good. There's no point in feeling bitter about anything, or feeling sorry for myself -- I've got much better things to do. I hope everyone here enjoys their life even when someone tries to bring you down... Because whether you have children or not, you should never let anyone dictate how you live it! | |
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Posted: 6/3/2008 11:29:17 PM |
Here are some statistics resulting from that, which show more of the whole picture.
• 79.6% of custodial mothers receive a support award
• 29.9% of custodial fathers receive a support award.
• 46.9% of non-custodial mothers totally default on support.
• 26.9% of non-custodial fathers totally default on support.
• 20.0% of non-custodial mothers pay support at some level
• 61.0% of non-custodial fathers pay support at some level
• 66.2% of single custodial mothers work less than full time.
• 10.2% of single custodial fathers work less than full time.
• 7.0% of single custodial mothers work more than 44 hours weekly.
• 24.5% of single custodial fathers work more that 44 hours weekly.
• 46.2% of single custodial mothers receive public assistance.
• 20.8% of single custodial fathers receive public assistance.
[Technical Analysis Paper No. 42 - U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services - Office of Income Security Policy]
There in again though, that is your opinion and point of view based on your experience. Others such as myself have a totally different perspective. I was raised by a single mom, I date single moms, not to the exclusion of others, more because my experience with them has been positive. 99% of those I've known, hold good jobs, put their kid first, don't introduce men they're dating until a reasonable time passes and they believe the relationship is going somewhere. I find they are more caring, aware of your feelings and needs. I have seen older women (not all) who now are set in their ways and are somewhat selfish in their approach to men. This doesn't invalidate your experience or opinion or prove mine to be more correct.{/quote] Now Bobby!! One of the criticisms of old Johnie boy is his circle of single mothers is or must be somewhat limited and with that his suggestions or assertions that single mothers are nefarious blood suckers is faulty simply because of the limited numbers he would have been involved with. Now equally I would not suggest that I would not be considered a high profile male and would not have had the possible extensive series of woman or high profile woman with careers in which one would be able to reach your conclusion that 99% of single mothers you have known hold good jobs. But perhaps your high paying occupations and rugged looks has given you a bevy of experience with woman that other mere mortals can only dream or wish for? I like to see some good hard data to base or formulate conclusions or assertions. Strange but the US census does not seem to support your premise? Look at the numbers receiving public assistance? Both custodial men and custodial woman? But I prefer personally to look at the more positive. Those who work themselves to finacial see to the benefit of themselves and their children. Care to comment on the numbers of custodial males who work 44+hrs compared to woman? Or check out the numbers who work less than full time? So how then do these parents make up the shortfall? I have been the primary custodial now for over 5yrs. I have met a number of custodial fathers who all have some of the same stories or histories yet I hesitate to suggest that the similar stories is a validation that all non custodial mothers are of less than Stirling individuals. Of 12 custodial fathers only one receives cs. But my dumbass ex-hubby, who married me and BY LAW owes me child support (he accepted the role of father in her life, was the first to request she call him 'daddy") isn't worth the time it would take to pursue, and I wouldn't take his money even if he had any anyway, had the opposite attitude, that I was going to 'use' him...LOL, I made more money than he did from the day we met..loser.. gosh darn.. I guess I'm just not the stereotypical single CANADIAN mom now.
Oh wait..stereotypes.. that isn't reality now, is it.
I can't understand why some people really believe they are important enough for others to CARE what choices they make. Make your choices, and let others make their own. When you are a single parent then come back and tell us how it feels to be lumped in with every parasite out there. I am a single custodial father and I pay for almost everything in respect to our children. A few pieces of clothes my ex has bought just to keep up appearances. But then I earn more money and I accept the fact that I am able to bear a larger burden as part of my responsibility of being a parent. I prefer not to denigrate my ex because of my good fortune or better job. But then i realize there are those who feel the need to place themselves on some sort of pedestal. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:30:17 AM |
Time is the most precious commodity in the world, so I think it's best if we spend it wisely. That's why I'm leaving the entire POF forum for good. There's no point in feeling bitter about anything, or feeling sorry for myself -- I've got much better things to do. I hope everyone here enjoys their life even when someone tries to bring you down... Because whether you have children or not, you should never let anyone dictate how you live it!
Good luck to your frogkisser, wise words.
To loony's post that I can't quote now because I already copied/pasted something...lol I can't have any more children. I tell every new person I meet whether they have kids or not, very early on, that I cannot have any more kids. I do not want to get to know someone and possibly get into a relationship in which they are feeling like they're being denied something they truly want in life. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 6:33:31 AM | @writinghecate , that yoga's really working for you, Ican feel your inner peace with the world yet you are divorced at 27, prefer not to say you have kids and are not collecting a dime from your ex? I wonder was it your decision to become a single parent.
You may find it rediculous but for everyone of you there are untold many that are not nearly as fortunate, but you go girl!
I guess the stats that westpark has provided are completely false. By your attitude and statement it seems you have become the man you always wanted to be.
Try stepping out of your comfort zone and maybe write a story about real life and not glamourized california dream while wearing your dead animal coverings eh?
And speaking in terms of bad attitudes we have a new thread today titled christmas presents from deadbeat dads. In it we at least have some good advice about letting the bio dad reach out to his child. Downside is we get to hear my favorite terms sprem doner and deadbeat thrown in as if they are ok to use as sperm receptacle or windex. for good measure we get to hear example of how my loser ex sperm doner did this or that.
Followed by my personal favorite he should have spent all his money hiring a lawyer to buy back his rights to his own child.
So keep on telling me that all women are good and not evil and I start to believe too. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 7:03:30 AM | Kiddingmyself I hope you are merely being sarcastic when referring to @writinghecate. I don't see anywhere that she has said anything which might be offensive to anyone. She's speaking of herself and she has a right to do that. I don't see where your comments are all too flattering or kind.
I think westpark's stats could be accurate. At least for the USA but not so sure if they hold true for Canada.
Usually when a woman has stated that her ex is a sperm doner or looser or whatever the name, it is an insult to wards her ex...not men in general. But if you're identifying with that name, it's sad. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 7:21:45 AM | well guys, I'm a single mom, I have my one son part time. The other lives with his dad full time. With diabetes, it's hard going between 2 houses to keep his blood sugars constant. I am independent and I manage my finances and my life just fine. I don't rely on my ex-husband for support and I don't expect anyone else to help me out. I've learned to do it on my own and I'm quite happy and content with that! Anyone offers, I appreciate it and take it at face value. It's not an easy postition but it's what I've been dealt with and it's made me into a better person for it.
With my life the way it is, I have balance and time for my kids and for myself.
I've tried dating men without children over the years and some have been pretty understanding of my situation and others haven't. I've dated men with children. Dating either isn't easy. It's not always about the kids, it's just a matter of being able to accept the other individual and what they bring forth to the table. Sometimes, it just doesn't work!
And Johne...I think you need to give it a break man...we all get it that you don't like single moms...I think you're gonna get mobbed one of these days...we all know what you look like!
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Posted: 6/4/2008 7:36:41 AM | You know cg at least I have actually done some research and tried to look at our society's current situation through more than one lens, not just my own.
I have personal references and because of my jobs I have met many different groups of people from different ethnic and social backgrounds to see the problem is larger than many would like to believe.
When anyone tries to bring a different aspect to any discussion here it is treated with contempt and fought against with their only defence being "it's not happening to me so it must not be happening ."
In todays world neither gender is blameless for what's happening but I think that whether they would like to admit to it or not, there is a problem and Unless both sides agree to that and change some of the laws and rules it can only get worse.
Sorry but writinghecate sounds like a typical alpha man, arrogant and I doubt very much she will be alifelong partner for someone other than a door mat.
Is that what feminism was for so we could all just be individuals and run into each other under the sheets once in awhile. And if that is the case then I truly pity those that are holding on to dying traditions of lifelong relationships.
We cannot keep this course going and still breed. Too much advatage for the women based on which set of genitalia you are born with.
And women have to stop denying basic truths that we are barely a step above the apes with basic animalistic tendancies (sp) only you have you have a vast network of laws on your side to use at your whim.
If you truly feel that you have arrived in equality then you would help abolish the current family and divorce laws because you keep stating that you don't need men anymore just want one one, but like I said to her there are many who are not as educated and use them (the laws ) to the point of abuse.
I live just down the street from our local family court house and I know that the docket is full every day and the waiting list to see a judge is getting longer and longer. And for what?
Our solutions to it are hire more judges, get more court rooms?
I am not picking on the less educated here as those courts are filled with people of all economic strata fighting to win. the simple fact that the word win is used is sad in itself. Win what ? A child or the rights to a child.
I could go on becuase the causes of what's happening are too complex for most to grasp and intelligent discussions are not met here well.
So you can try and slag me for stating an opinion or Johne in his repetitive style but nether of us would have to if the system wasn't all screwed up and getting worse. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 7:45:41 AM | | Westpark, I will not dispute those figures. They make perfect sense to me. I apprciate your comments on my looks, and I'll allow that the women I met who worked on Wall St. had above average income. As for "mere mortals" I believe it's all about the "type" of woman you meet or attract(SM or SW). C'mon now you know that, doesn't make one better than the other just maybe some have more advantages based on income. Now as to the stats, you know that most(and I don't know exact numbers or what you will accept in that regard) are women below the poverty level. So lets then look at the demographics on here. Most have a car, a computer, internet access and several show a college education. Many list an occupation, very few stay at home moms on here. So while those stats apply to the WHOLE of the USA, I don't think you'd get those same stats if you could get them on the population of POF. I also don't think anyone here is dating people they met on here from Watts in LA, Bed/Stuy in Brooklyn NY or 8 mile in Detroit which would skew the numbers as you suggest. I also realize that many of you including Johne have shared some bad experiences and possibly even all of them that as individuals you had. Now answer me this (caveat: one or two won't make a difference) how many have met single moms on here that took advantage of them? Remembering of course this will not show the VAST number of positive experiences taking place every day on here, cause they ain't complaining, Bob | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 7:49:54 AM | kiddingmyself
By your attitude and statement it seems you have become the man you always wanted to be.
So any woman who is motivated to get a good education, have career ambition and works to be financially independently, is wanting to be a man? If we date selectively and not fear being alone, we want to be a man? When did these trait become exclusively male?
I disagree with people calling their ex disparaging names. I think people forget that their children are watching, if dad or mom is a douche bag then they must wonder..hey am I one too?
I get tired of people whining how much they do for the children and how their ex-spouse doesn't do enough. I worry those types of resentments could transfer into the relationship with the child. It makes me wonder how many people consider their children a job/burden instead of the gift they are. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 8:16:07 AM | Kiddingmyself you have every right to your references (?) (sorry I couldn't resist that). Yes you have every right to date anyone you choose depending on your preferences and their reciprocating. I have never disagreed with that. I also believe that you and John as well are entitled to your opinions. But not the insults. Insults are not opinions. I do not care if someone wants to date or not date me because I am a single mother. It's all about choice.
If there are valid points made then they could and should be discussed. But to say or imply that all single moms are one thing or after someones wallet (not your words) is not an accurate or fair statement. You seem upset when single moms (such as myself) get upset or defensive when someone implies that we are. If someone is going to ridicule me through a stereotype then yes I am going to object. I do not imply or state that all men are abusive or controlling. I have stated the opposite. I know that everyone is different and should be given a chance on an individual bases. I have not let my past cloud or warp my future. I take each as they appear until proven otherwise.
The laws may be screwed up as they are for some but from my personal experience, they had no effect on me or my ex. Obviously it is affecting some. Yet when it came to my divorce, it did not. Do I care that it didn't? No. I don't believe that someone should be allowed to "double dip" so to speak. I am however puzzled by men/women who do enter a relationship with a single mother/father, bond with the children) and then have nothing to do with the children) if it ends. They're choice but how do you shut off a child and continue as thought that child was nothing? Is it really that easy? It's something I don't understand and don't think I ever could. It's a foreign concept for me. Actually, much of what people do to each other is a foreign concept for me. I've tried to put myself in some of the situations people on here have been in and still do not understand how they end up the way they do. I know that I would have to be that type of a person for it to make sense and since I'm not, it doesn't.
As for feminism, to be honest, not even too sure what it is anymore. I know what it's purpose was when it first started but think it has lost much since then and turned into something completely opposite of what it was intended. Yet, I work in Oil & Gas and it is still very much what people would call "the old boys club". There will always be some form of inequality but that is because we are different. It is unavoidable. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 8:16:45 AM | | Westpark and other guys. I said it before and I'll say it again. The MAIN difference is in the SELECTION PROCESS. Perhaps that is what has skewed my numbers or yours. I need an intellectual connection with a woman as well as a physical one. I want to be able to discuss polotics, art, music, economics, travel and many other things. I'm sorry, this may sound a bit harsh, but that is not going to happen with a minimum wage earner most times. She is going to not be able to travel, has limited time. The 7 or 8 single moms I have met on here own art galleries, are engineers, executives, work in the airline industry. These women have had a career for more than 20 years. Everyone says it's OK to have preferences, even Johne "says" he has preferences, so I have mine. There is nothing wrong with people who make min. wage, there is nothing wrong with people who have support type jobs, I just don't seem to be drawn to them or haven't met one I would be. If anyone selects person's that take advantage of them or are in a financial bind and it keeps happening over and over. Is it not that person who is the common denominator in the selection process? Bob | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 9:19:43 AM | References as in personal experiences not a freaking resume. But nice try on the slag cg.
Bob us men who are on a lower economic strata need more guys like you to help our cause. You know I prefer a woman who would talk politics and review docs but unfortunately I don't seem to make enough money to date them.
So many like yourself are in a bubble and continue to deny reality. It is comparable to the glorified hollywood single mom syndrome. If I just made a couple million on my last movie. Getting divorced wouldn't be so bad but so many men of lower economic stature are living in poor conditions while still being obligated BY LAW to pay or face jail time.
And when it takes working two jobs or trying to earn a little cash under the table to have some semblance of a life, how happy would be? And how can you hide that anger and resentment from children, they are extremely perceptive.
In response to " I am however puzzled by men/women who do enter a relationship with a single mother/father, bond with the children) and then have nothing to do with the children) if it ends."
This is where both get a lot of blame because instead of thinking about the kids there are many guys who will "put up with" a woman's child or children to "get some" without really thinking of those kinds of consequences.
A new thread about that starts on the hour every day here on POF. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/4/2008 9:42:32 AM |
References as in personal experiences not a freaking resume. But nice try on the slag cg. It was not a slag. I was teasing you. If you took it to be an insult, that's your prerogative. I just assumed (which I shouldn't have) that you were in such a hurry typing that you missed the "p" at the beginning of the word. I am sorry you are so sensitive and that I have such a warped sense of humour. I will refrain from even mildly teasing you since you took offense.
What is wrong with working two jobs? I do it. (3 if you count being a mom as a job) If you can't or don't want to provide for your child, you should not have had the child. Regardless of whether you are with the child's other parent, both should be providing for the child. This statement is a blanket statement and not aimed directly at you. We all have choices. If we prefer to wallow in self pity and not do anything to improve our situations we have no one to blame but ourselves. If someone is unwilling to provide for their child, then yes they should be made "By Law" to support them. It does take two to create the child after all. Unless all these single moms managed to do something all by themselves. If that's the case, then I guess your earlier statement regarding women not needing men is correct.
Not everyone gets married just to "get some". They can usually "get some" without marriage and they don't usually "put up with" kids for 10 years. If it was all an act to begin with, then that's just warped. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/4/2008 11:15:26 AM | Sorry cg but the temperment here just forces me to get my back up sometimes and I am probably just as guilty of it too.
But as more light is being shown on this single parent dilema (sp) we should be forcing people to be a lot more honest than they have ever been before- even to themselves.
When I met my ex the first thing that went through my head wasn't " i wonder what it will be like to divorce her?" Can I ask a personal question though? Why did your marraige fail? I think I can say why mine did but it leads back to what bob mentioned about bad choices. I think I made great choice as far as her being a great parent and I think I would have been a great parent too. But sadly I doubt I will get that chance but I, knowing myself do not want to raise someone elses child.
Trouble I think with the divorce syndrome has a lot to do with the 'I love you now change" adage. And unfortunately we get caught up in the getting married part without really seeing that that is exactly what happens all too often.
I, save for a new passion for chaging the status quo, am essentially the same person I was before I met my ex. Not the greatest person in the world but I wasn't asking her to change why should she have expected me too?
All too often the labels of loser or jerk or worse descriptions are thrown around here and it reaks of hippocracy (sp). And when that aspect is brought up into the discussion the typical defence is he/she wasn't like that before and I am sorry but that's very weak and petty especailly when you have brought children into the mix.
Multitudes here continuously state I will be pickier next time well sorry that's a bit late don't you think?
The Brady's got lucky, many blended families do not fare as well. And as far as the support double dipping goes, a lawyer merely has to present his case to show that there was bonding that had occured and voila another man is on the hook for more support.
And like I said before if all single parents were having succes finding that next truly committed relationship then the OP would not have asked the question.
And bob comparing that question to any nice guy threads askinf the why I can't get dates do not hold nearly the legal ramification that dating a single parent does. No comparison whatsoever. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 11:46:31 AM | I agree with kidding myself on most issues. Why would you single parents in Canada not write to your MP's (MLA'S or MPP's depending on which privince you live in) to get some of the divorce/child support legislation changed or at least modified?
It might help your social life as if many who thin like me (and have had the experiences I have had) see it will have no more burden finanxcially to marry a single mom should you get divorced than any other woman some more men might be willing to date single mom's.
To answers Bob's question I have had single mom's borrow money fromme and not pay it back (no friend relative or woman without children has borrowed money without paying it back.)
I said no to these requests but I have had single mom's ask me early in the dating process if I could pay their rent or buy their children clothes or school supplies (this was on date#1 2 or 3.) One asked me on date#3 if I would play Santa to her children because she was collecting child support from 3 men for one child who were having financial trouble and because of that she was too.
I have been asked to buy a cell phone for a mom and her child on date#2...a real turn off. If you can't provide for youself and your child why should someone you just met do it.
I have had a few single mom's bring the kids on date#1 or #2 without telling me first...very awkward. I have had one change ourplans for date#1 which was supposed to be lunch but she brought her kids with her saying she promoised them a day at the amusement park. She then said she had no money. The kids looked excited and I do have a soft spot for children so I paid but the woman could not understand why I did not want to see her again.
I hate to say this but I am responding to Bob's question...I have met a few single mom's who simply feel it is a man's job to provide for her and her children. Okay if it turns into a long term romance fine but why should the dating process be used for that?
I know not all single mom's are like that but it becomes easier not to date single mom's than to risk the legal issues one might face down the road or even risk meeting a short term leech. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 12:09:17 PM | | No worries Kiddingmyself. Yes you can ask me a personal question. I'll talk about anything and everything. Why did my marriage fail. Simple. I made a poor choice. I believed in someone who didn't exist. The person I married had many hidden secrets. One critical one being that he was bi polar. They didn't start to show or come out until after we had our son. They say that having children changes you but I'm not so sure that it does. I think that it will bring out traits (both good and bad) that have always been there but we seem to over look them. We have been divorced now for almost 5 years. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 12:34:00 PM | Thanks for the reply cg, you know you're pretty cool for a single mom and red head to boot. Back to reality now gotta go to work.
I wonder if this thread will go another 100 pages before I get home? | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 2:36:28 PM |
I have met a few single mom's who simply feel it is a man's job to provide for her and her children. Okay if it turns into a long term romance fine but why should the dating process be used for that?
John,
Can you at least acknowledge that the experiences you've had may in part have something to do with you? This has been pointed out to you repeatedly the ways in which you may be contributing to these situations.
I know not all single mom's are like that but it becomes easier not to date single mom's than to risk the legal issues one might face down the road or even risk meeting a short term leech.
As I previously pointed out, with the number of golddiggers and women out only to leech free meals off of you, (using the same logic you used here), wouldn't it be easier not to date women at all and to stay away from this site than to risk meeting a short term leech with or without children? | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:05:17 PM | I SWEAR I AM GOING INSANE!!!!!!!!!! STOP THE MADNESS! AND WILL SOMEONE STOP DELETING MY POSTS, PLEASE!!!!!!
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Okay, something has just occurred to me, Johne. It is you who is the vulnerable one. You choose to go on dates with these women (not being terribly picky, by the sounds of things) and the when it blows up in your face, you blame the breakdown of the relationship on the woman's faults. How bout your own faults? Raise your self-esteem. Stop going for these women, regardless of whether or not they are single mothers, because trust me, I know women who are gold diggers and dont have any children. They are the ones that have children with you and then sleep with someone 10 years younger than you and then disappear with your money and your kid. | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 3:15:11 PM | | Ohh Johne, Bob's question was HOW MANY OF YOU MET WOMEN ON POF THAT WERE LIKE THIS?.... Now Johne, Johneboy, don't tell me you met I believe I counted 6 or 7 women there from POF that all wanted money? Now if that is the case, my point is proved. You don't need to be dating a movie star, executive or whatever but to find that many women, HERE, who want to I believe your word is "leech" off you is unbelieveable. Did you report them to the site johne? Is all Canada aflame with this behavior? Let's here what you have to say johne. Bob | |
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Posted: 6/4/2008 6:29:41 PM | Patiently awaiting Johne's answer...
wait, wait..I think I have it.
Well, I have dated many single moms and they have all wanted something out of me
One single mom wanted ......and another single mom asked ............and another single wanted....
and that is why I don't date single moms. | |
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