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 little_mermaid

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Posted: 6/18/2008 9:21:12 AM
Just to dispel any confusion or misunderstanding, here is the answer to the original question.

That is your answer. Not THE answer. It is even too lame to copy and paste and start this whole thing over again..at least for me. This single mother of the world honestly and directly could care less about this so called truth that is hard to take and that comes from a guy who is vulgar.(your own words to describe yourself) My judgment tells me there are men and there are morons just as the same can be said for women.

Direct honest and straightforward from a woman who refuses to date vulgar, selfish, ignorant men...regardless of his parenthood. If he is someone who hasn't evolved,
if he is selfish(terrible lovers they make), if he looks at his body and sees something different then I do. Truth of the matter is you have no idea what choices and reason an individual makes and why. Be in charge of your own life and leave the judging to a higher power. Most assuredly you are not it.

Mostly though it is a good thing we (single mothers)are spared from even being interested in dating someone like this. Your truth is not hard to take..really not interested in dating anyone like you anyways. As a woman( with or without kids) I would imagine a vulgar fish is not that fabulous nor that great a catch.. I would throw him back and find better bait.
 Laneybird

Joined: 3/6/2006
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Posted: 6/18/2008 9:24:45 AM
1) If you get pregnant, you're going to keep it. You've already demonstrated that; your little bundle of joy is living proof that you're pro-life, and I will have no choice or say in the matter. Up to 1/3 of my gross pay will be automatically removed from my paycheck for 18 years. If I lose my job, or can't pay, then I get labeled a deadbeat dad, and the cops come and throw me in jail.


Ever heard the phrase it takes two to tango?


Why in the world would I ever want to date someone who places me second in line to another man's litter? I want my significant other to be available to me, and not have to schedule our time around some kid.


Why would any woman want to have a man around that calls children "litter"?


3) A woman's body changes after she gives birth which makes the intimacy less satisfying for men.


Believe me mister, I have had NO complaints in that department


4) If you are a single mother, it shows that you are reckless and irresponsible.

Where is the father? How come you're not with him? If you have a child and the father isn't around, it projects that either you couldn't make the relationship work, or had poor judgment in choosing a mate. In either case, you were deliberately negligent about your contraception. Having a child now is a choice, one that you made. You could have exercised better judgment, a bit of restraint until you found a good, solid relationship but you didn't.


Relationships fail, its a fact of life. I was with my daughters father for many years. We lived together for many years. We were due to get married. HE made our relationship fail, not me. Must be nice living in such a black and white bubble though...
You are 30 years old, Im guessing you have been in a relationship...your relationships have failed also..


I don't want to be with someone who has poor judgment, is irresponsible, and/or can't make a relationship work. And I don't have to.


And Im betting that the majority of single moms wouldnt want a relationship with a man like you either.
 Smuggler1

Joined: 2/2/2008
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Posted: 6/18/2008 11:53:30 AM
LOL....

another stranger to the thread, who is a single guy, posts very much the same as the rest of the single guys...

And the very same women come out, saying the same exact thing..... Johne's created a following!

Imagine that!
 web identity

Joined: 6/10/2008
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Posted: 6/18/2008 12:22:57 PM
from my perspective, it appears that when the question is answered, some of the ladies can't handle the truthful answers. that's when the claws come out, rant followed by the "no-one wants you anyway."

it cracks me up when i see the whole two to tango mantra. is it legal for a man to terminate the pregnancy? i don't think so. unfortunately with greater authority/rights comes greater liability/obligation.

now that i'm getting older i like to keep most risk factors in my life as low as possible.
 Ms.Beavenhouse

Joined: 5/7/2008
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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:07:53 PM
it cracks me up when i see the whole two to tango mantra. is it legal for a man to terminate the pregnancy? i don't think so. unfortunately with greater authority/rights comes greater liability/obligation.

Wow what a cope out, so you're saying men aren't procreation responsible? There are men in these forums who don't have children, are you saying it was just dumb luck?

I wonder if my ex-husband (who conceived 2 of our children with intent) tells people he is single or admits he abandoned 3 kids when his son with special needs proved to be too demanding. I think the ratio of single men to single mothers presented in these forums is wacked.

I'm curious where some of the people in these forums would have been standing during the Salem witch trials.
 Kiss_My_Karma~

Joined: 7/4/2005
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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:15:24 PM
Manducati, just because a woman is a single mother it means she's irresponsible? What about the women who thought they were getting married for life and it didn't happen that way? It happens every day, you know. What about the women whose husbands died?

My body might be a little different, but every man I've been with since I've had my kids has told me I'm the best they've been with, so there goes that theory ;)

I wonder how many single moms here who did not marry the children's father were told by the father, you know, "I don't really want a kid, please get an abortion". I was not. I was told, "I'm behind you 100%, whatever you decide. I was raised right and I'll take care of my responsibilities." hahahahahahahahah that was a good one looking back!

And please don't call my kids a litter. They are human beings, just like your mother had, I think.
 Johne102

Joined: 3/1/2006
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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:21:57 PM
The point about procreation:

If I did not create the child...why should I be responsible for it? Let's face it ladies..if you get serious with a guy and either marry him or live common law you will expect him to help you raise your children in some form. Help pay the bills? Drive the kids to sports or dance lessons? Of course you kow the courts in Canada could have him take responsibility.

My point is that if you did not create the child you may not want to take responsibility for such a child so you will nt want to date their mother. Or you may want to date her but not get serious with her. I know you will say that you are deserving of love too and I would agree that you are but it does not mean it will be easy for you to find.
 Kiss_My_Karma~

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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:26:55 PM
^^ And if this attitude toward women carries over to non-mothers as well, it's going to be hard for you to find, too. No one is superior or inferior, we are all people who put our pants on one leg at a time. Get over it.
 web identity

Joined: 6/10/2008
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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:29:29 PM

Wow what a cope out, so you're saying men aren't procreation responsible?


it's nice to see that you were able to distill the principle idea. not since the 1960's and miracle of birth control have men been responsible for procreation. It was cemented when women were given the choice to abort or not, regardless of how the father felt.

i find it ironic when women whine about the challenges they face in the dating world, especially when it was the previous generations' feminists who cast the die.
 Johne102

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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:36:30 PM
I am over it..I no longer date single mothers..only childless women. Why do single mothers not understand their situation is not for everyone. Even when I post stating single moms desrve love I get bashed....ok I think I understand it. You only post wanting answers you want not honest answers.
 Ms.Beavenhouse

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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:38:31 PM
I find it ironic that a man who acts like his world revolves around personal responsibility, would believe he is not in control of his procreation.

I guess those who can't do, teach.
 Ms.Beavenhouse

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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:40:26 PM
Yeah johne we got it 8000 posts ago you don't want to date single mothers. And most of us are ok with it, since we wouldn't date a man like you anyway.
 princessantonia

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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:43:32 PM
Lol, *rubs hands in glee* a new perspective! Actually, its not new, just regurgitated.

from my perspective, it appears that when the question is answered, some of the ladies can't handle the truthful answers.

No, sir, you do not speak truth, but opinion. Big difference. You have it right with 'perspective'.

it cracks me up when i see the whole two to tango mantra. is it legal for a man to terminate the pregnancy? i don't think so. unfortunately with greater authority/rights comes greater liability/obligation.

oh really? But it is perfectly legal and socially acceptable for you (as in men) to walk away and not support (in the UK) as many children as you like?!!! And when you men get the privilage of carrying a child, then you get the right to decide whether or not a termination takes place.

now that i'm getting older i like to keep most risk factors in my life as low as possible.

Best stop having sex altogether then. No contraception like no sex.
 Johne102

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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:44:10 PM
I am in control of my life...if single mom's did not want a man so bad why would they start these threads and who better to answer then men who will not date them?

With the way our courts work It is like going out for dinner with a single mom you get handed the bill for the last dinner she had as well the one you had with her and get told to pay for both.

If you did not pick a man who should stick around why should it become the next man's responsibility?
 princessantonia

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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:45:00 PM

I am over it..I no longer date single mothers..only childless women. Why do single mothers not understand their situation is not for everyone. Even when I post stating single moms desrve love I get bashed....ok I think I understand it. You only post wanting answers you want not honest answers.

OMG, LIAR!!!!!
BOB, where are you??? lol
 Ms.Beavenhouse

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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:49:42 PM
johne

if you were in control of your life, you wouldn't have the compulsion to be so repetitive or need to elevate yourself at the expense of others.

I'll stop myself there because the rest I have to say is very unkind and my mother taught me to be kind to those less fortunate then myself.
 web identity

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Posted: 6/18/2008 1:53:54 PM

I find it ironic that a man who acts like his world revolves around personal responsibility, would believe he is not in control of his procreation.


who has the final say on whether to carry the child to term? who has the control with regards to the pregnancy. I'm not saying the current system is wrong, it's just not equal.

with respect to my personal responsibilities, i simply mitigate the risks so that I can provide peace and security for myself and my seed.
 Johne102

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Posted: 6/18/2008 2:00:54 PM
I did say single moms deserve love too....You just can not give me credit for saying anything nice because I will not date single mothers anymore.

Why should I pay for another man's responsibility?

It is far easier to date a women without young children...lress legal liability, I can go away on a moment's notice with her. I do not have to worry about loco parentis laws, I can plan and save for my future, I think single mom's need to look at the fact that they are at a disadvantage when trying to find a long term relationship and accept it.

If the laws in Canada were different I might feel differently.
 web identity

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Posted: 6/18/2008 2:08:26 PM

No, sir, you do not speak truth, but opinion. Big difference. You have it right with 'perspective'.


my apologies ms. princess, what i should have wrote was;

from my perspective, it appears that when the question is answered, some of the ladies can't handle the honest answers.


oh really? But it is perfectly legal and socially acceptable for you (as in men) to walk away and not support (in the UK) as many children as you like?!!! And when you men get the privilage of carrying a child, then you get the right to decide whether or not a termination takes place.


yes really, if a man so chooses he has the right to fornicate with as many women as he wants, provided they consent of course! It's up to the women to decide to be pregnant or not.

your choice, your responsibility. just don't expect me to take on somebody else's responsibility. key word - expect.
 Wilmo

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Posted: 6/18/2008 2:28:10 PM
First, I didn't read the whole thread (surprise)
My ex would gladly have had more children, he even supports them!
If you don't want to date single moms why are some people spending an inordinate amount of time in this forum? No better ideas on how to spend the day?
Go over in the dating over 30 section where a 41 year old single women with no children talks about feeling bad that some people critique her for not having had children, she must be cold and incapable of having relationships, something like this....

Bottom line, look for and date who you want but let other people live. If there was a gay section in here, I wouldn't go over and tell them that their life style choices are no good, just because they are not mine.

FYI, on the profiles is a section where people say if they have kids or not. Just don't contact "these" people, it's that simple.

Do you realize our children will pay your old age pension some day?
 web identity

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Posted: 6/18/2008 2:46:17 PM

Do you realize our children will pay your old age pension some day?


by the time i reach retirement age there'll be no pension fund. the fund will be completely depleted by the time all the baby-boomers die off.
 quirkyfishy

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Posted: 6/18/2008 3:20:07 PM
think single mom's need to look at the fact that they are at a disadvantage when trying to find a long term relationship and accept it.


You know what is really disrespectful, Johne?! That you continuely state that we need to just understand and accept this statement you keep making.

Most of us do have brains in our heads and can come to our own conclusions. I am sorry for the 'women" that post these threads to begin with, that give you and others a forum for your bashing and rhetoric. Perhaps they need to understand the reasoning that you and others have, but after 50 times, they probably have gotten it too.

The rest of us single moms with half a brain do not need to be told that WE need to understand ANYTHING.



4) If you are a single mother, it shows that you are reckless and irresponsible.

Where is the father? How come you're not with him? If you have a child and the father isn't around, it projects that either you couldn't make the relationship work, or had poor judgment in choosing a mate. In either case, you were deliberately negligent about your contraception. Having a child now is a choice, one that you made. You could have exercised better judgment, a bit of restraint until you found a good, solid relationship but you didn't.


How dare you judge ALL single moms with one fell swoop. I am not with the father of OUR daughter, because HE choose not to stay in our six year marriage, and our twelve year relationship. Where is he now? With the women he cheated in our marriage on me with, with THEIR new child. Is he irresponsible and reckless?? No, he is exempt from judgement, right? Because I should have known at 18 when I fell in love with him that he would walk out 12 years later, and leave our three year old in my primary custody?

Your attitude disgusts me.
 bob2013

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Posted: 6/18/2008 3:43:19 PM
Oh God this is going to be a long one. Oh well here goes as best I can.
First to our newest friend manducati,
1. pro life/pro abortion it is there choice. But most of these women were married for years. Tried indeed to make the relationship work. I'm sure dear old dad was supportive at first. Then fled when the going got tough or had to have that red convertible and mid life crisis. Most don't pay all the child support their supposed too. These women did the best they could.
2.Moron, ALL children come first. Not just these, I'm sure if you can remember your childhood, you came first and judging from your attitude a real spoiled little sob you were. You get whatever time you get, don't like it don't date them. But I'm sure barbie gives you what you need in time, as long as you keep those$$$ flowing.
3.I believe the word here is keegles? did I spell it correctly? Womens bodies can and do go back or can with exercise. So now we know anatomy is not your strong suit. There is in extreme cases surgery for this, but most if not all of these women take care of themselves.
4Reckless? Irresponsible? How by marrying someone planning a life together with children? How do you think you got here j*rk off? People marry, people divorce it happens, with your attitude, expect it!!
Now as to the rest of your rant about irresponsible. How about that picture of you and your friends on the motorcycles. At least 2 of the 5 of them were raised by a single mom after the divorce. You want to give me there numbers so I can call them up and say there pal here thinks their mother is a freeloading whore not worth the time of day? You are an ignorant, self absorbed, immature a$$hole who acts 19 not 30. No problem keep the attitude in 10 or 12 years when the hotties think your over the hill and no one is dating you. You'll change your tune or maybe not some people never mature.

Now as to our other friends here it's good to see your an equal opportunity jerk Johne. Spewing that venom on 2 threads but not ever answering questions, just spreading more hate and lies. You really should up those meds cause the dose isn't strong enough. Johne you said it already "spend my time and resources on my own family" SO GO HAVE ONE. As though some woman would marry you much less bring a child into the world with you. There are no words low enough to describe you. You have no understanding, no compassion, no sense of decency. Only your blah blah blah laws of canada blah blah blah tried to take my money blah blah blah won't date them. You are a low ,vile, contemtable,self centered,poor excuse for a human being. Johne you make me ashamed to be a man sometimes. Bob
 bob2013

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Posted: 6/18/2008 4:05:02 PM
So now to our newest best friend "web" What is your claim to fame? Things a little slow tonight so you hide behind your keyboard and spew some sh*t. I've seen your posts now for a while, I get it. Your bored, so to get some kicks you sit on here and bait the ladies. Real nice, a model citizen you are. As you said, you won't date them, but your still here pecking away at the computer. Who do you want to be when you grow up, oh I know, Johne. Yes he must be your hero!! What is your issue? These women just want what everybody wants, someone to share their lives. Is that so wrong? Is it so much trouble for you to see they are just like everybody else on this site?Bob
 Misa101

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Posted: 6/18/2008 4:15:02 PM
Seriously Johne - Im drawn to you- though I've a twisted sense of humour - - I'm in tears laughing here.
Im only new to this but good gawd man you're as mad as a hatter !! I'm dying to find more looper posts like the ones I've seen so far. Now this is probably a gold digger question in your mind - but what do you do for a living???? I'm trying but with no avail to see what gig you could be doing that you could excel in with your really negative attitude.

These childless women - are they deaf and blind - because I'm finding it hard to believe someone could be looking and listening to you on a regular basis.

I'm hopeful the laws in Canada stay the same because if that's all that's saving single mothers from you I think the Canadian government is doing a fine job :)
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