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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 7:58:48 PM | Look pet...
Do you have something intelligent to say? I mean really... Unless your done with your quilt, or finished up mopping some stains somewhere.. I really dont have the time to waste with you.
So, go sit somewhere quiet, get your needles out.. Finish the Quilt. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:02:44 PM | Im not excusing the inexcusable behavior of their Male counterparts... it takes two to tango...
That is it??? I think that was a whole two sentences. I don't understand why(though at times well written) you vent and lash out at mothers/girls/ women who yes made a life changing decision that affects more then just one person. Those guys are as much to blame as the women but as we can see in the post the women are usually the ones who get blamed or judged for everything. Luckily for at least most of the women here on this post we have succeeded in being independent non-judgmental and have grown to understand some is not all whether your referring to a man or a woman. I am proud of single moms who are doing it all.
I blame spears family and hollywood for making somethings that would be difficult for the average girl/woman to do and making it look like a party or a fashion statement. Not a true reality. IT is hard work. It is rewarding and sometimes a stranger on the internet can be insulting or judge you out of hand. The reality is though no one can judge you but yourself your God or in the herefter when one might be asked what you did with your life and how you handled the challenges that you were faced with. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:03:10 PM | You sure do enjoy chipping your teeth, don't you, Smuggler? You realize it makes you sound like a moron, I'm sure.
Surely you have something better to do, like take some single woman without kids jet-skiing or something... Oh wait... you can't FIND any, isn't that what you said? Must chafe your bottom that even single custodial fathers can find single childless women to date. 
*wink* fanboi. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:04:00 PM | rhino the point is in the younger segment the ditch pigs vastly out number the gems. I didn't make it that way it just is. The question would seem to be how can the younger gems separate themselves or be noticed as a quality potential date by equal quality guys that mat otherwise just on the odds not give them the consideration they want.
EDIT: before the lynch mob rides again I was not referring to anyone here as a ditch pig. If I go back through 129 pages I might find examples but see no reason to concern myself with those people. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:13:01 PM | And statistics are statistics. Young single moms are far less likely to finish school or attend post secondary. Far more likely to end up on welfare (which would come after my bank account on their behalf even if they didn't feel it was right). It is no different that an relatively uneducated blue collar guy not seeing much merit in approaching a well educated executive type lady. It isn't bigotry, she is unlikely to share common goals because her circumstances are different so instead of spending alot of time one a 1% chance it is smarter to cast your line in waters more likely to produce the trophy that 1/ You are looking for and 2/ You can land. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:23:45 PM | Smuggler
Without a doubt this kind of thing does happen but firstly they are not women, they are adolescent. And dumb ones at that but someone dropped the ball to allow them think it was ok to get knocked up.
You know sugar lips, not all my irate posts are related to you
loonytunz
Do those irresponsible boys get a 50% vote in whether or not the pregnancy should be terminated?
^^Maybe their parents should have taught them to respect their bodies and always wear a condom. Or better yet to not have sex with crazy women.
I reserve the right to my judgments, and am not unintelligent.
^^Honestly you get on my last nerve with your jumping to conclusions so I don't read you normally. I have no idea what your position was on 17 knocked up twits.
Btw having an opinion and being judgmental are not the same thing.
Hypocritical much?
I'm not even sure what that is all about. I have no daughters so I used my sons as an example. I don't have my head up my ass..I'm fully aware there are women lacking morals and no I wouldn't want them dating my sons. If my son brought home a single mother, I would assume she was fit to date until she proved otherwise.
I don't believe men and women can be friends, one always wants the other. Which opens up an entirely different can of worms.
I believe in freedom to choose who you want to date and not even having to justify it. What I disagree with is people like johne making up shit to elevate himself at the expense of other human beings. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:27:09 PM | | I haven't read anything other than what's been written on here about these "soon to be" single mothers. I'm curious though, how many of these girls are adults? If they're not adults, still children (be it teens), then there's definately something wrong with the adults in these kids' lives to lead them to believe that getting pregnant will solve all their problems. What have these girls been taught? Yes these girls are going to end up being more statistics. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:30:36 PM | Now wait a minute...
Since I can't tell which is quoting and which is statement, I'll just ask to avoid further confusion:
WHO said men and women can't be friends? 'cause that's horse-hockey. I can't even think of anyone I personally KNOW who doesn't have at least one or two friends of the opposite sex. Friends-friends, no sex, no "benefits," and apparently no deep-seated desire to go there. I don't get it. *puzzled* | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:37:03 PM | I find it interesting that this thread takes us single mothers to task for not trying to change the way some women behave.
I'm not responsible for other people, I can't make anyone do anything. I believe instead of trying to teach an old dog (single parents who are lacking) new tricks that I should focus on the hierarchy of needs of the children of these women. The cycle needs to be stopped and the best way to do it, is to focus on the kids. It's easy to lay blame instead of investing in the solution. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:41:01 PM | Now wait a minute...
Since I can't tell which is quoting and which is statement, I'll just ask to avoid further confusion:
WHO said men and women can't be friends? 'cause that's horse-hockey. I can't even think of anyone I personally KNOW who doesn't have at least one or two friends of the opposite sex. Friends-friends, no sex, no "benefits," and apparently no deep-seated desire to go there. I don't get it. *puzzled*
I said it. I have yet to have a male friend who didn't make a move on me eventually. I know women who are friends with men waiting for the right moment for the true love to happen. I don't believe men and woman can be friends, without one secretly or not so secretly harboring feels/lust for the other. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:41:45 PM |
WHO said men and women can't be friends? 'cause that's horse-hockey. I can't even think of anyone I personally KNOW who doesn't have at least one or two friends of the opposite sex. Friends-friends, no sex, no "benefits," and apparently no deep-seated desire to go there. I don't get it. *puzzled* Oh christ the sky is falling, a rhino statement that I agree with 100%
And, while a shocking anecdote, they don't exactly create a significant blip in the overall statistics for the USA. 17 at once and a PACT is the anomaly. The overall trend in young pregnancies remains the same, dismal. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:50:36 PM |
I said it. I have yet to have a male friend who didn't make a move on me eventually. I know women who are friends with men waiting for the right moment for the true love to happen. I don't believe men and woman can be friends, without one secretly or not so secretly harboring feels/lust for the other.
oooooo-kay. Your experience may not be representative of the population as a whole. Just saying. One of my best friends from grad school and my best friend from the academy are both female and there's nothing there from either side. Seriously. We *like* one another, but in 15 years, you'd think something like that (romantic interest) would show up, wouldn't you? Now, my good female friend from middle school... there was something there ever so briefly, until we figured out we were completely incompatible (and way too young), so I guess that SORT of fits your notion. Except that we ARE good friends to this day, with no hint of romance since like 9th grade.
Also, you might want to invest a little time in learning the "quote" function. It's easy to use and makes it very clear what is quoted, and what is a new statement. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 8:54:36 PM | The overall trend in young pregnancies remains the same, dismal.
Are you sure you want to stand by that statement? Because everything I've read says the opposite. For example:
From http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf :
"Each year, almost 750,000 teenage women aged 15–19 become pregnant. The teenage pregnancy rate in this country is at its lowest level in 30 years, down 36% since its peak in 1990. A growing body of research suggests that both increased abstinence and changes in contraceptive practice are responsible for recent declines in teenage pregnancy.1 • The teenage pregnancy rate among those who ever had intercourse declined 28% between 1990 and 2002. • The teenage birthrate in 2002 was 30% lower than the peak rate of 61.8 births per 1,000 women, reached in 1991. • Between 1988 and 2000, teenage pregnancy rates declined in every state and in the District of Columbia. • By 2002, the teenage abortion rate had dropped by 50% from its peak in 1988. • From 1986 to 2002, the proportion of teenage pregnancies ending in abortion declined more than one-quarter from 46% to 34% of pregnancies among 15–19-year-olds. • Among black women aged 15–19, the nationwide pregnancy rate fell by 40% between 1990 and 2002. • Among white teenagers, it declined by 34% during the same time period. • Among Hispanic teenagers, who may be of any race, the pregnancy rate increased slightly from 1991–1992, but by 2002 was 19% lower than the 1990 rate."
Other studies show a very similar trend in Can'tadia over the same period. England and Wales, however.......... | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 9:00:44 PM | Well I did say "I believe" not that it is law. And how would you know if a friend secretly had a crush on you?
Maybe I want to recreate confusion or maybe I'm anti-htlm and using passive resistance. Or I never considered using it before lol. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 9:09:29 PM |
And how would you know if a friend secretly had a crush on you?
Well, I can't decide if that's vaguely paranoid, or unjustifiably hopeful.
Either way, I'd think it would have showed up at SOME point through respective marriages, divorces, births of children, deaths of friends and family and so forth... at least over 15-30+ years!!! | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/20/2008 11:57:51 PM | ***Firstly I am quoting desertrhino....***
WHO said men and women can't be friends? 'cause that's horse-hockey. I can't even think of anyone I personally KNOW who doesn't have at least one or two friends of the opposite sex. Friends-friends, no sex, no "benefits," and apparently no deep-seated desire to go there. I don't get it. *puzzled*
Thank you desertrhino! I have several male friends who have absolutly NO sexual attraction, no deep seeded crush (a couple are married and one is a minister) or anything. They DO care about me, share mutuial trust, but most of all RESPECT me for who I am. ************************************************************************** As for you, Msbeavenhouse your quote:
I have yet to have a male friend who didn't make a move on me eventually.
Are you sure this was actually friendship or just a friendly male looking for benifits?
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/21/2008 12:44:39 AM |
I said it. I have yet to have a male friend who didn't make a move on me eventually. I know women who are friends with men waiting for the right moment for the true love to happen. I don't believe men and woman can be friends, without one secretly or not so secretly harboring feels/lust for the other.
I gotta disagree with this... (but hey, its the first time I have disagreed with anything you have posted lol!)
Men and women can just be friends. I have loads of male friends and have no desire to be in a relationship with them and vise versa. Some of my oldest and closest friends are male. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/21/2008 3:49:17 AM | Here we go again.........
Young single moms are far less likely to finish school or attend post secondary. Far more likely to end up on welfare (which would come after my bank account on their behalf even if they didn't feel it was right). And???? What is your point here? About $0.001 worth of your tax goes towards welfare, I would be far more bothered about how much of your tax goes on lining governors fat pockets! Actually, thats a load of rubbish not all single mothers end up like that. In fact, where I live very few do.
Bob, flid is probably the wrong word as it is a very derrogatory word, used for people with not a huge brain or amount of sense.
Smuggler. I do love this little thing we have going. Do you not get it? You are the perfect little plaything aren you? I press all the right buttons and you fly into action. When are you going to learn that debate forums are for DEBATING, not personal venting? People are allowed to change their minds, its not a competition as to how rigidly you can stick to your own opinion. That could possibly be why you are single? It may well be, my love, that the nice noraml single ones are reading your posts on here and thinking 'hell nooooo.' Think about it. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/21/2008 4:21:44 AM |
That is it??? I think that was a whole two sentences. I don't understand why(though at times well written) you vent and lash out at mothers/girls/ women who yes made a life changing decision that affects more then just one person. Those guys are as much to blame as the women but as we can see in the post the women are usually the ones who get blamed or judged for everything. Luckily for at least most of the women here on this post we have succeeded in being independent non-judgmental and have grown to understand some is not all whether your referring to a man or a woman. I am proud of single moms who are doing it all.
I blame spears family and hollywood for making somethings that would be difficult for the average girl/woman to do and making it look like a party or a fashion statement. Not a true reality. IT is hard work. It is rewarding and sometimes a stranger on the internet can be insulting or judge you out of hand. The reality is though no one can judge you but yourself your God or in the herefter when one might be asked what you did with your life and how you handled the challenges that you were faced with
LOL... Okay, 2 sentences... because Im trying to get to the point of what seems to be here... that of the Single Mom crowd... Its all to evident, unfortunatly, these girls and their families are going to be raising some hormonally challenged boys kidlet... So much for the empty nest, Im sure the brand spanking new G-parents were looking forward too.
Im not placing blame on the girls... but it does seem evident that THEY were the ones to make the PACT to be pregnant before graduation. As for being judgemental, I would place judgement on the situation, not soley on the girls, but on both young adults. Yeah, common sense would dictate to most that it was a piss poor decision, it screams of immaturity, shows a lack of forethought, planning and/or preperation in any direction! And to make it a "Pact"... Thats blatently going into the lions den blindfolded, as well as having pork chops tied to you... Hell, I'll be the first to stand up and say, "yep!" guys at that age are dumb... Testosterone poisoning Sucks!! But, to boys that age, few things in their world have meaning... Girls, Beer, Cars/Trucks... And, with the apparent lack of instruction or examples of moral fiber within thier own families, then your just poking the lions with a stick as well!
My take on the boys.... Step up... Obviously there are more than willing to play with fire, well... they got burned, or should be getting burned. By the same token though, I think that the court systems are going to get involved... and Im sure thats going to just add confusion and discontent to an already bad situation. Again, in our date and time, taking them out behind the woodshed is looked down upon. One cannot 'shame' these boys, because again, in our world today, they think its the only measure they have available to them to be considered a man.
Goes back to, Rights, Responsibilities and Priveleges... They have no sense of either...
I honestly think that the best solution was brought up already.... If these girls take thier pregnancy to full term... Adoption by a family that is looking for a baby would be better for all of them... Its a bad situation all the way around.
Wow Pet... nice new picture... now all you need is a swastika in the background... Maybe you could sew that into your quilt! | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/21/2008 4:25:28 AM |
Smuggler. I do love this little thing we have going. Do you not get it? You are the perfect little plaything aren you? I press all the right buttons and you fly into action. When are you going to learn that debate forums are for DEBATING, not personal venting? People are allowed to change their minds, its not a competition as to how rigidly you can stick to your own opinion. That could possibly be why you are single? It may well be, my love, that the nice noraml single ones are reading your posts on here and thinking 'hell nooooo.' Think about it.
LOL... I still love ya there Princess... I just dont agree with you!
Besides, we live on different sides of the pond. Lets change places, and I'll probably be argueing the same points you are from your side, just as you may be argueing the same points from my side here.... Thing is, Ive been over there... Often times, I really wish I was BACK THERE... Then again, you guys get cold weather, and the Caribbean sounds much more relaxing...
That could possibly be why you are single? It may well be, my love, that the nice noraml single ones are reading your posts on here and thinking 'hell nooooo.' Think about it LOL.... Im not stressed about being single. It would be nice, but from what Ive discovered here... There may be a reason some of us are single.... Think about it! :jump: | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/21/2008 4:54:36 AM | | I was 23 when I got pregnant with my son. I continued to go to college 7 years and now I have 2 kids and finishing up school. I do have male friends who are just that and we don't go any further. I am not on welfare of any kind I support my kids as a full time student, employee but, first I am a mother. I do have to wonder if there are single guys out there who like single mothers for anything other then a bed to lay in. Statistics are statistics and yes I would agree seems like the younger these teenagers are getting they think a baby will help. The only person I worry about in that situation is the baby. After usually a few years go by and the mother has grown up to be a reliable great mother with or with out education. Or in many other cases the child ends up in other peoples care. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers? Posted: 6/21/2008 4:58:53 AM |
Well, I can't decide if that's vaguely paranoid, or unjustifiably hopeful.
I'd go with vaguely paranoid because it's actually disappointing when someone you considered a friend hits on you or worse tell you they have feelings and you lose the friendship when you don't reciprocate. But my issues might be leaking since I'm still feeling the burn from an incident with a friend this week.
I gotta disagree with this... (but hey, its the first time I have disagreed with anything you have posted lol!)
At least we can disagree without blaming it on those "damn single mothers" lol
Are you sure this was actually friendship or just a friendly male looking for benifits?
Actually it's not always about sex and the ones who develop feelings during friendship are a deep and irritating topic lol. While some of the men I choose to be friends with are the naughty high testosterone types, who can't be trusted around my grandmother after a few shots. It's the "nice guys" who tend to goose me with expectations more often. My ex-husband and last long term relationship were people who extended friendship, then later admitted they were interested in more from the day we met. Actually two of my female friends get touchy feely when we drink so it's not strictly reserved to males.
There is a theory on why this happens in my relationships but discussing it will only make me look bad and why would I want to do that!  | |
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