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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 6:46:38 AM |
Wow Pet... nice new picture... now all you need is a swastika in the background... Maybe you could sew that into your quilt!
The funniest part about this, Smuggler, is that you clearly don't get the WONDERFUL things this says about YOU. I pity you. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 7:13:11 AM |
The funniest part about this, Smuggler, is that you clearly don't get the WONDERFUL things this says about YOU. I pity you.
ROFL... Pity me huh?? Wow... coming from such a Shining Knight Crusader as yourself... Im supposed to feel...... ?????
I suppose its all that late night History Channel, you know, when the educate you on different aspects of ... history...
But really..... The picture shows the true stoic ... you. Stalin would be envious... Although, Im sure he wouldnt be to impressed with your lame attempt at humor... or trying to flip everything I say into some sort of perverted jab...
But good luck with trying to be impressive... works for ya! | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 7:29:28 AM | Everyone deals with midlife differently... obviously you chose the "I'll be as irresponsible as I can get away with" route. I didn't.
I also didn't choose the setting for that photo. I just think it came out well. And as for trying to be impressive, what's the point of that? You either are or you are not. I just try to be as true to "me" as one can be online.
You? might try some introspection. It's a wonderful thing. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 7:49:07 AM |
And???? What is your point here? About $0.001 worth of your tax goes towards welfare, I would be far more bothered about how much of your tax goes on lining governors fat pockets! Actually, thats a load of rubbish not all single mothers end up like that. In fact, where I live very few do.
And here I thought the limeys were taxed more heavily than here. It would be more than $0.001 of my tax here going to single parents. But you miss the point entirely! It has squat to do with how much I spend supporting these people and everything to do with the generational welfare mentality and people wanting others to always look after them rather than work. It's either the state or "some man" in some cases both.
Now we know this isn't every young mom, but when you look around it is the majority. You get to the older crowd it is more often a mix of failed LTR's (not exclusively but chances of that being the case are much higher), so the only limitation's I see for these ladies is the financial liabilities that are possible for the new guy and the standard for anyone freshly out of a long relationship....negativity, usually short term as we sort through what happened, what went wrong, and how to avoid that in the future.
I do have to wonder if there are single guys out there who like single mothers for anything other then a bed to lay in.
Absolutely there are. Some of those are hesitant to get involved due to the issues brought up in the other 130 pages, others are not hesitant.
Is this one of those broad brush strokes painting all men as incurable skirt-chasers that upset some here so much?
. I continued to go to college 7 years and now I have 2 kids and finishing up school. I do have male friends who are just that and we don't go any further. I am not on welfare of any kind I support my kids as a full time student, employee but, first I am a mother.
Well congrats, and you have taken a hard road. Glad you can see the benefits of that extra work are worthwhile, kudos. Now remember that it would also be my right to look at all you have on your plate and decide that you probably don't have the time left over to do many of the things I enjoy, so even if I like you and admire your ambition I may not think it is a good idea initially. Doesn't mean I would not do some of the fun stuff when you have the time, or that one wouldn't enjoy your company. Just that without knowing you much better that dating is not going to enter my mind as a likelihood.
Statistics are statistics and yes I would agree seems like the younger these teenagers are getting they think a baby will help. The only person I worry about in that situation is the baby.
 Exactly! Stop coddling these foolish girls, hell if they were made to deal with reality sooner maybe more of them would have seen just how stupid this pact is.
The only individual that deserves total sympathy is the kids. But I doubt that "after a few years go by" many of these girls will be "great moms" or even role models for that matter. Their actions indicate seriously flawed characters.
Rhino read the links I posted in the thread dealing exclusively with this pact. You should see what I mean if you can make the effort to research. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 7:53:27 AM | ROFLMAO....
Wow... I dont have any kidlets running around, unlike... ummm YOU. Ive insured that I dont have any random kids running around... PERIOD ... and Im the one thats 'irresponsible'?? WTF?? I dont think you really understand the concept of the word irresponsible.... www.dictionary.com ... it may help you out..
As for being impressive.... Yeah, we've seen it Pet. You continue to Shine that armor up, ride off to do battle in hopes of gaining acceptance... Your inability to see your own lack of back bone, and your continuous attempt at trying to make jabs at men who have Real Opinions, is readily evident to everyone. And you are correct... you are being true to you... That is so blatently obvious... at least you have one thing correct.
Introspection 1. observation or examination of one's own mental and emotional state, mental processes, etc.; the act of looking within oneself.
How does a man, who cannot stand someone to question certain aspects of society that we all have to deal with, look at himself in the mirror knowing that he fights so hard to keep those wagons circled, in hopes to gain acceptance... in some form or another... try to tell me that I need introspection.
I believe it is you who need to do some soul searching.....
And go finish that quilt. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 7:58:09 AM | Oh My F-ing G..... 
Ladies I've found a candidate for the beatdown at TGI-Friday's.
http://www.plentyoffish.com/member7967123.htm
Check out that jewel.
Oh and quirky yes I can watch the shorties, even have a couple kiddie games for my PSP to amuse them if the weather turns rotten. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 8:30:26 AM |
Ladies I've found a candidate for the beatdown at TGI-Friday's.
Oh, my lordy be.... 
*slapping on my t-shirt and grabbing my hair pulling tool...
*Oh, and I was added to the favorites list of a couple looking for a "sister" wife...Think I found the men that enjoy single mothers..finally! ;) | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 8:30:45 AM | Thankfully I don't fit the stereotypical image of what a single mother is. I beat the stats. There are many of us single mothers out there who indeed contribute back to society in many positive ways. I personally am not looking for a replacement father figure for my daughter...at her age doesn't make sense....at my age looking for someone I can mesh with....
Sadly with the American divorce rate at roughly 45% and children being born out of wedlock....the US at least will be producing more single parents. Sadly it is embedded in our culture and won't be changing anytime soon. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 8:40:04 AM |
Thankfully I don't fit the stereotypical image of what a single mother is. I beat the stats. There are many of us single mothers out there who indeed contribute back to society in many positive ways. I personally am not looking for a replacement father figure for my daughter...at her age doesn't make sense....at my age looking for someone I can mesh with....
This bring up the recurring issue for me. In the younger group being the minority is a problem, being associated with the undesirables.
What can be done about it?
What would re-assure a man that he will not be taken to the cleaners should he widen his pool and look at single parents and make the mistake of catching a few toadfish before he lands his keeper?
OHH and my bad, I really should have said LADIES DO NOT LOOK AT THE PROFILE I POSTED ABOVE WITH CHILDREN OVER SHOULDER. My apologies. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 8:58:22 AM |
This bring up the recurring issue for me. In the younger group being the minority is a problem, being associated with the undesirables.
What can be done about it?
What would re-assure a man that he will not be taken to the cleaners should he widen his pool and look at single parents and make the mistake of catching a few toadfish before he lands his keeper?
OHH and my bad, I really should have said LADIES DO NOT LOOK AT THE PROFILE I POSTED ABOVE WITH CHILDREN OVER SHOULDER. My apologies.
I don't think there is one true formula out there....I guess getting to know the person for awhile....if they make obvious statements about money....if there is no balance with this person. What I mean by balance is that the woman wants a sugar daddy to take care of her bills and shows it by her actions or is simply looking for a daddy replacement. Either scenario shows she has some major issues about men or is a problematic co-dependent.
Dating shouldn't have to be a chore...but seems from what I read on the forum it def. is. Sometimes it takes a few rotten apples to find the right one...corny but is the truth. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 8:59:48 AM |
What would re-assure a man that he will not be taken to the cleaners should he widen his pool and look at single parents and make the mistake of catching a few toadfish before he lands his keeper
Still trying to figure that one out myself, but I have deduced that posting on a forum such as this has not helped the cause...  | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 9:08:06 AM | This is the way I look at it...everyone is unique and has their own special qualities...not everyone is cut out to be a parent or wants to date a single parent and they shouldn't be penalized for that. For anyone out there who believes a woman (or man) can change the mind of a person who they like to WANT to be part of the single parent lifestyle you might be in for a rude awakening.
I believe that if you go into a potential relationship with the mindset of trying to change that person all you are doing is setting yourself up for disappointment...now I am not talking about minor changes like getting him or her to like your taste in music, food...whatever...but the MAJOR stuff like child rearing, children in general, religious beliefs and the list goes on.
So, if the two of you really "dig" each other then you work as a couple on compromise....without that I feel both will enter into resentment later on down the road which could lead to nasty because of all the time and emotions invested. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 9:12:49 AM | Well guys, interesting 2 pages. Aside from our couple of buddies trading jabs and jibes we ALL I think come to the same conclusion on those 17 girls. Still when you consider the situation can't we agree that there was no supervision, no parenting and a limited amount of interaction with anybody with a normal perspective involved. These 17 can not even be referred to as anything but children themselves. So to represent them as anything other than that is fool's play. Yes in 10 years or so they will be part of the single mom pool, and some may even be part of the fish pool. As I see it they are a statistical oddity, that is only representative to a greater societal problem. Parenting has become something of a lost art in much of society. Wake the children up, get them dressed and drop them in front of the tv while people deal with their own lives. Leaving education early to Mr. Rogers and Barney. While that's OK at 3 or 4, when they reach prepubisence, what are they watching? It's not the history channel or learning channel it's sex and the city or desparate housewives. If your not seeing what they watch cause they're in their rooms you don't know.
Looney I really enjoyed that, a real "class act". Did you notice while she couldn't spell, admittedly cursed like a truck driver, she also had 98 favorites. Says something don't you think.
I get a sense from those who posted both male and female that while no conclusions or necessarily anyones opinions have changed. We seem to have arrived at something of a meeting point. All single moms are not the same, and this group wants you to know and respect that. All single guys are not the same, some have great reservations about financial and time constraints but others are OK with dating them. Bob | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 9:21:09 AM |
All single moms are not the same, and this group wants you to know and respect that. All single guys are not the same, some have great reservations about financial and time constraints but others are OK with dating them.
and to think it only took 13o pages.... | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 12:27:48 PM | Hello,
I am new and have gotten some feedback on my no kids stance. Yeah, I am a woman and I don't want to date men with them. I put it nicely in my profile, they ignored it, so I had to put it in a second time. The fact that they still contacted me was disrespectful after the first one. I have nothing against people with kids, but they are not my responsibility. I do not have them and do not want to compete for time. I do not want to have to plan things around a child. I do not have children because I am not ready to sacrifice my time for them (I was in a long term where I could have). Will I ever? I dunno? But I do know it wouldn't happen for at least 5 years.
Now it being "my loss." I don't think so. See, I don't want a relationship with a single father. Therefore, I don't want that person who thinks I am losing. I don't want to spend time with the kid(s). To me it would be a waste of my time because I rather be out having a great time with the guy focusing on each other. And it can also be said it is "your loss" because you chose to have a child which is keeping you from meeting the person that would be awesome! See, doesn't seem fair does it? Seems harsh huh? Well the statement works both ways.
Now I have gotten messages from guys that don't and say they like my profile but disagree about dating single parents. That is fine. They are interested in me and I bet they like it just a wee bit more I don't have any. I know what I want out of a relationship starting out and kids is just not part of it. It is something that would always be an obstacle for me and I don't want to deal with it. Remember, having children is a choice. Can't be harsh to the people that didn't make the same one or are not comfortable with yours.
It is personal choice just like the single people having kids was their choice. So accept ours just like we accept yours.
And btw, I have a BA in history and the History channel is dribble, garbage, etc. Just saying lol. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 2:00:21 PM | | jlm your choice who to date. As to history channel, sorry better than Desparate housewives as far as kids go, but you wouldn't know that would you nor understand the point I was making by the statement. Bob | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 2:03:27 PM | Im a very independant mom of 2 (14 and 6). I have my own place, my own car, a good job an education. I can easily see why men think we are out to find someone to support us. Id freaking love that. But its not who I am. Id rather struggle a little and know I did it on my own, than to have it handed to me and have my kids see me take and not earn.
One day a man will come along and see me for who I am, not barbie thin, I dont wear dresses, I say what I feel, I stand my ground and my kids come first! | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 2:32:26 PM | well iam a single father and i have dated both but i find sinle moms connect better with my kids, and the no kid mom does not seem eye to eye on the ways i raise my kids.
there are many isssues with the man who only want no kids mom.
I pretty much on the most part only date single moms, but anything is open with the right person. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 2:44:30 PM |
I have my own place, my own car, a good job an education.
Yeah not downing you at all but can someone explain to me why women (and men to an extent) are supposed to get kudos because they accomplished these things? I really never understood why they get credit because they chose to have kids and did what they are supposed to do like everyone else. It is like the dads on Maury that get cheered because they pay child support.
And history comment was a joke (although true, was told jokingly). Lighten up. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 3:04:32 PM | ^^ We're going to get along, I can tell!
I really never understood why they get credit because they chose to have kids and did what they are supposed to do like everyone else.
Point being, they did it on their own whilst paying for child/ren at the same time. It would appear you have no experience of this so understandably you have no comprehension of this. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 3:53:15 PM |
Point being, they did it on their own whilst paying for child/ren at the same time.
Then I should get EVEN MORE kudos than you because I made sure I didn't get pregnant and did the right thing. Now I am the better person in the spotlight! Obviously you would not have any comprehension or understanding of what it is to do the right thing like one is supposed to without having to hold up a sign saying "Look at me! Look at me! I did what I was supposed to do like everyone else so give me attention and credit I don't deserve!"
Or... you could just stop announcing what an amazing super woman you are for doing what you are supposed to and act like others which just expect it from someone with half a brain...
Just saying.  | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 3:58:27 PM |
Yeah not downing you at all but can someone explain to me why women (and men to an extent) are supposed to get kudos because they accomplished these things?
I think the main thing is that it's a way of saying "I'm not like the stereotype. I'm standing on my own and I don't want to leech off of anyone." | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/21/2008 4:51:29 PM | So they should get kudos because they aren't trash. Oh well I still think they are not worth noting because they do what they are supposed to do. Sorry but not gonna happen.
Anyway, funny thing, I was contacted by a man with a kid this evening. I asked him how much he had his kid. He told me every other weekend plus two weekdays. Now why on earth would I want to sacrifice my personal and social life for someone I am not responsible for? This is exactly what goes through my head as I am completely turned off. I mean, parents here down us for not looking past the kid but you you expect us to jump into instafamily. In my time I will address kiddies. But hey, I tried to give it a shot but it was just such a turn off. But you see, I tried (for like 2 seconds but I tried). | |
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