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Posted: 6/21/2008 5:03:12 PM | So they should get kudos because they aren't trash. Oh well I still think they are not worth noting because they do what they are supposed to do. Sorry but not gonna happen.
We don't want kudos, we want respect. Most of us disagree with the assertions made by some single people without children because they regard our children as a mistake and the cause for us being single. | |
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Posted: 6/21/2008 5:12:50 PM | So jlm, why grace us with your presence? You obviously have your preferences. None of those would be met by anyone here. In fact, in my opinion, the condescension in your attitude would be apparent to anyone. You either don't like children or only would like to deal with your own, maybe, at some remote, unforseen point in the future. To quote I believe it would be "instafamily" is not your thing. What is your point? Killing time, idle curiosity or just dropped by to bait? Bob
PS Smuggler where are you? I think we found your other half! | |
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Posted: 6/21/2008 6:29:44 PM | jlm I am wondering also as to why your gracing us with your presence? Maybe you should find the posts re:single fathers and dating..this one is about the mothers. I might even suggest there appears to be resentment towards the fairer sex and not men who have children at all. No one here acted like they were a superstar of life. Respect and admiration for others doesn't make you any less then..it is not a competition.
I also want to agree with you that it comes across as if it would be a better life for you not to date someone with children. I would be afraid if I was that kid. Not that you were going to take my dads love away from me but that you might shut me up in a closet or something.
There have been a couple of people here who might have found there second half..
YEAH!
PS. I love the history channel and don't feel in the least like I should apologize for it.
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Posted: 6/21/2008 6:35:35 PM | | Ms. B actually not, while geographically compatible, I would not wish that on him, I kind of like the guy. I think more likely bugatiguy and her. Yes definitely, that would be the match, they are made for each other. Although we would need Yankee stadium for them to meet, couldn't fit those two egos into a smaller space. Bob | |
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Posted: 6/21/2008 11:14:34 PM | You have no reference, no standing, jim-whatever... You're focused completely on you. That's fairly normal at your age.
Now, grow up or go play in the street or something. Your injured self-absorption/pride is so far beyond turn-off it's not even worth noting.
Perhaps you can get some play from Smuggler or Johne... or maybe that Ducati fvcktard. I'm sure one of them would be interested in your private photos. *gag* Class act, there. 
Edit to add: I should have read the last page... seems everyone else got the same impression from this sweet princess.  | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 6:42:02 AM | While we all prefer people we date have or do not have certain qualities or a certain status I do not see why we can't work on getting the tradional family unit together and repair and as a society. We would be better off. I see far too much of people deciding to have a child and then try to find the right person...to me that is backwards.
I do not hate children...far from it I volunteer my time with children I just choose not to put what I have at risk as no prenup can get around that Canadian loco parentis thing so why is that such a bad thing?
As for those 17 year old girls making tat pact they are crazy. I agree with Rock Hunter though they could say it is their choice and their body.
When I aws in high school we had a class project where we had mock marriages and were given and egg to care for as it it were a baby. An alarm would go off at odd hours of the night which we wuld have to get out of bed and turn off. (The egg ws equiped with a small alarm) This signified whenthe baby would need to be fed and changed. The alram went off for my egg/baby during an exam. Of course if I did not get up and turn off the alarm I would be seen as a bad father so I left my desk to tend to the alarm. I did not get the last question of the exam completed, my teacher commented I was the only boy that went to shut off the alarm during the exam so even though I lost marks on the exam I still should I would be a good father. The project showed me that while I will be a good father one day I did not wnt to be a father at 17 years of age. Maybe these girlds need this type of project before getting "knocked up"
When you meet too many single moms that fit the streeotype you tend not to want to take that chance again. Why risk my money on another man's responsibility? Some women do not let you see their true motives until it is too late...then what? So aviodance is best. Sorry ladies that is how it is with many men. Your knoghts in armour may not like it and you may not like it but you need to accept it. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 7:56:02 AM | | John, all the girls were 15. There were 17 of them that made the pact to get pregnant. I found several articles on this story last night. You should go google and read them. I don't know how many 15 year old girls you know, but the ones I know are no where near being mature or responsible enough to be mothers. They can't take care of themselves let alone a baby. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 8:29:10 AM | Wow talk about closed minded people... For shame!
Okay moron (and I mean that sincerely) private is an option on here! They are not dirty. I just don't want my photos on a free site is all. Maybe if you knew how the site worked then you would know that NORMAL photos can be saved as private and included when messaging. Obviously not the brightest Crayola in the box are you? I never said anything to put them down. I just said that they don't deserve credit for doing the right thing. And btw, can you sound anymore pretentious in your profile? Try, go add another paragraph to the novel lol!
Most of us disagree with the assertions made by some single people without children because they regard our children as a mistake and the cause for us being single.
Now who is making assumptions? I never said they were mistakes. I said they were choices. Everything has a price and that pool of guys (or girls for those single dads) just got a lot smaller with that choice. One should accept it.
So jlm, why grace us with your presence?
I wanted to know why men with kids contact me even though I don't want anything to do with them. They tell me they have them and will say "I know you said... but..." If I said it then go away. Like I am going to make some exception for you because I feel benevolent to you? No no no... But being the intelligent and educated person I am, I wanted to understand how the other side thinks. So I decided to check it out. But I found the attitudes here of the people that do not want to date people with kids just ignorant. My first post wasn't to put anyone down but maybe explain how the other side thinks. But anything that does not give you people what you want or some sort of sick justification is automatically the enemy.
As far as my ego is concerned, I think there are some on here that definitely eclipse mine on the other side of the argument. You are reading my posts as hostile because you are so defensive and they are not written like that. All are written calm and rational (except the first paragraph in this post as that was written laughing at that idiot).
I don't think I am better than anyone because I don't know anyone here. However, if the question comes up who did it right then yes I did. So you can think I am pretentious as you want but I just wanted to know why my choice is being disrespected yet you demand respect for yours. To me that isn't very fair now is it?
And to make statements that I should kill myself or that I would hurt children is just immature and inappropriate. And I find it a bit disturbing of the people that would say such things. It makes me disregard your opinion since you do not have the tact nor the couth to post in an intelligent and mature fashion. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 8:51:19 AM | | Johne while your story and comments are touching. You seem flawed in your thinking and facts. Many of these women were married. They married or cohabitated with a man intending to spend their lives together. They did NOT wake up one day and "gee this is a nice day to get pregnant", this was part of the normal evolution process in a couple living together to form that "family unit" you keep harping on. No one can predict the actions of two people, and whle hindsight is 20/20 no one could know they would split up/divorce. These things happen, I'm sure if you look around you can see friends of yours or family members who have done the same. As to your "project" well that's a tool used by schools to show the responsibilities of raising babies, to try and stem the tide of teen age pregnancies. It really only works if the parents help enforce the lesson at home as well as school. Now as to these girls or even yourself, grasping this at 17 for you was a hard concept, at 15, these girls were just children themselves. In addition their flawed concept was to raise their babies together, again a flawed thought process, that would only appeal to girls used to hanging out together at each others houses or the mall. You only raise your child yourself, this is not a group activity. Finally Johne, when are you going to get the idea STEREOTYPING is bad. If everyone says Johne is flawed due to your handicap, but you can do more than what others who have your handicap normally do, how happy are you going to be? Yes there are some who fall into a group that showed inconsistent thought or some lapse in judgement and got pregnant like you describe. In 90% of the cases involving the women on this thread, this does not apply. We now come to your last paragraph, for 263rd time, don't risk your money, don't date them, don't talk to them, they don't want to date you. This is not the statement of a "knought" in armour just a human being who can look beyond the narrow situation and see the bigger picture and have some compassion in doing so. Bob | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 8:51:43 AM |
I don't think I am better than anyone because I don't know anyone here. However, if the question comes up who did it right then yes I did. So you can think I am pretentious as you want but I just wanted to know why my choice is being disrespected yet you demand respect for yours. To me that isn't very fair now is it?
What exactly did you do right?
Most of the single parents on here got pregnant by their husbands, or long term partners. So getting pregnant by your husband isnt right? Most single parents on here thought they were in relationships that would last their lifetime. So why shouldnt they have babies with their choice of life partners?
Sometimes shit happens, and even after many many years with your partner, and even after having a child with them, things go wrong and relationships end. Its a fact. It could happen to you too. You could fall madly in love, get married, have babies...and then find yourself alone with your kids. Nobody is superior to that happening.
I think people that are in their late twenties and havent had children yet, and havent ended up a single parent for whatever reason, shouldnt get on their high horses and judge...afterall, it could still very easily happen to them. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 9:15:35 AM | Well jlm good Sunday morning to you. First let me say, as I'm sure you already know, there is a differene in reading something and hearing it. There are no inflections or facial jestures, just the written word. So your statements, as such came across with the attitudes we read. If no attitude was intended, then it was a misunderstanding.
Now onto the meat of the situation. If a man posts a profile and says he is looking for a blonde. However he is the right age range, height, job, type, and you get a vibe from his profile, you would write him anyway right? While there is a large difference between child and hair color the point is the same, we want what we want. Who can say what attracts human to human. Hope springs eternal, and people will try and get their hearts desires, even if they read or know it probably won't work. That's why it's called plenty of fish, because of the many types, so all will see what they seek and despite preferences, they will try because they think it will be a good fit.
There has been 130 pages of sometimes very venomous discussion on the topic. These 40 or so veterans of this battle remain, sometimes a little quick to conclude someone is here to bait or just slam a lifestyle. Now you have made clear your "preference" I have tried in some limited way to explain the ways of men w/children and pof. I'm sure there are a couple more of the men who can enlighten you further, if they choose. Let me know if there is something else we can help you with. Bob
edit: I read the above post and my curiosity was piqued also. What do you mean about "right"? Isn't this a lifestyle choice you have either not reached or one you choose to avoid? If you bought a SUV 2 years ago and are now choking on the price of gas to drive it, were you wrong? Does it suit the lifestyle you had at the time? If upon reaching Florida you rent an appartment and don't buy a condo or house you will miss tax dedeuctions and a chance to build equity. Does that make your choice wrong or is it simply a lifestyle decision. While these are poor examples when related to children, they none the less demonstrate the difference between as you put it "right or wrong" and lifestyle choices. Please explain right to us? | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 9:23:27 AM | Your knoghts in armour may not like it and you may not like it but you need to accept it.
Lordy be, Johne. have you read ANYTHING most of us single moms here have been saying for the last forty pages or so...
NO, you have not. I have asked you point blank questions a few times, and you completely ignore them. If it is something YOU do not have an answer to, you go back to yoru standard crap line of how we have to "accept it". Pathetic.
Step up and be a man and answer WHY you don't have a line in your profile that you wont date single moms...
and then I have a nice freeway you can go play in.
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Posted: 6/22/2008 9:29:37 AM | ROFL.... Good on ya there Pet..
For someone who is so critical about the vile contemptable speach... (which I dont really see, but hey, you're the beloved****ater) You never seem to provide much other than vile contemptable rhetoric about anyone that does not agree with your position 100%.....
And, anyone that calls you out on it... and makes comparisons to a mangina or a shining knight... LOL.... you call them a fvctard....
The level of maturity is realy beginning to show...
jlm6631 has the right to post... she brings up a valid point, one that comes from a Single Woman, concerning a male (man doesnt really fit now does it...) like yourself, and you cant do anything more than try to rip her apart. Pathetic.....
Introspection?? Self loathing is really apparent.... | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 9:59:18 AM | and I am not going to even dignify our new jlm with a response to her idiocracy.
Maybe it is because it is a lot easier to attack someone that can't spell "knight" and posts rudely than someone who can actually make legit and intelligent points.
And thank you Smuggler. I think you will like this...
The thread topic is "Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?" Ever consider asking them? I mean, obviously you don't know. So ask why we don't. And it isn't even that we don't like you. It is simply that the kid thing is not what we are looking for in a relationship. So face it. You might think we are losing out. But the truth is that you are not the type of relationship we want. Just like a dog lover with two dogs would not want to date someone who does not care for them. Or a woman allergic to cats would not date a cat person. It is the same thing. It isn't about right or wrong. I said if one asked. It is about preference. And even though I am the opposite gender, I think the reasons are the same for both genders. Looking for a fat money clip never even crossed my mind. I think that answer is foolish.
And btw, no I wouldn't contact someone that was looking for a blond. I am not blond so why would he be attracted to me? But comparing hair color to children is not a very good comparison. I mean, the logic to that is I could dye my hair just like a single parent could sign away rights to his/her kids. That is ridiculous! First off I would not look good as a blond. Second, any man or woman that would do that for a person of interest obviously shouldn't be a parent. Plus that is just nuts!
I would never make a man choose between his children and me. In fact I would think pretty low of a guy that would not be there for his kids. But it just isn't a factor I want. Does my honesty make me a bad, cruel, or whatever adjective you want to throw in, person?
Oh and using my age is a low blow really. I am an adult and have been independent for many years. If that is all you can come up with then that truly is a shame. My age has nothing to do with my opinion except I have more options in what I want at 27 than at 37. But that does not change the fact I know what I want. And you really do not want me to give a comparable response to the age comment I assure you... | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 10:05:47 AM | ^^^No, actually it was because you are a woman that has not walked in my shoes. You are certainly entitled to not date men with children. That is your choice, and nobody cares who you date or not.
But, it seems the intentions of most of your threads is to rip women apart that do have children, and I do not need to dignify that with a response. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 10:09:47 AM | Oh where to start. Another pedestal for some to climb. At least that’s the impression I’ve gotten. No one said jlm couldn't post. What they asked was why did she grace us with her presence.
Yeah not downing you at all but can someone explain to me why women (and men to an extent) are supposed to get kudos because they accomplished these things? I really never understood why they get credit because they chose to have kids and did what they are supposed to do like everyone else. It is like the dads on Maury that get cheered because they pay child support. Here’s something to consider. Women and men don’t want kudos. They want empathy, compassion and respect. There are many people you can respect without ever even knowing them. Every situation is different. Please tell me that someone who accomplishes something and beats the odds is not worthy of this? Yes it is a parent’s responsibility to look after and raise their children. Yes it is something that they SHOULD be doing regardless. BUT there are many reasons they do it alone. Widows for one example. Your statements are irresponsible and insulting to many in those situations. It was not their CHOICE to have their partner die and continue on to raise their children now was it. It is an accomplishment to do what they are supposed to while they are doing it alone. As in with no help. Solo. We all know it’s supposed to be two parents but life doesn’t always work out that way now does it. See how blanket statements get you in trouble on here. You have to be VERY specific in what you say or we will jump all over it.
Then I should get EVEN MORE kudos than you because I made sure I didn't get pregnant and did the right thing. Now I am the better person in the spotlight! Obviously you would not have any comprehension or understanding of what it is to do the right thing like one is supposed to without having to hold up a sign saying "Look at me! Look at me! I did what I was supposed to do like everyone else so give me attention and credit I don't deserve!" When you are in a marriage, most consider having children and do not expect to end up doing it solo so how is that not doing the right thing? Yes you’re in the spotlight alright. I guess I am labeled as one of those “look at me, look at me! I did what I was supposed to do BUT I DID IT ALONE. NO HELP. I do deserve empathy. You noticed I did not say pity.
Or... you could just stop announcing what an amazing super woman you are for doing what you are supposed to and act like others which just expect it from someone with half a brain... Yes the innuendo … now this wouldn’t possibly be taken as an insult would it.
So they should get kudos because they aren't trash. Oh well I still think they are not worth noting because they do what they are supposed to do. Sorry but not gonna happen. They should get empathy and respect for having dignity and NOT resorting to and lowering themselves to being “trash”. Yes doing something they are supposed to do but again, solo, no help in most cases. I can see how you would incapable of giving any of this to someone. Seems to be a case of simple human decency.
Okay moron (and I mean that sincerely) private is an option on here! They are not dirty. I just don't want my photos on a free site is all. Maybe if you knew how the site worked then you would know that NORMAL photos can be saved as private and included when messaging. Obviously not the brightest Crayola in the box are you? I never said anything to put them down. I just said that they don't deserve credit for doing the right thing. And btw, can you sound anymore pretentious in your profile? Try, go add another paragraph to the novel lol! When you can’t respond reasonably you resorted to name calling. Now that’s a mature and intelligent trait. And you were saying that the other poster was defensive. The tone of your responses and innuendos are enough to insult and put people down.
I wanted to know why men with kids contact me even though I don't want anything to do with them. They tell me they have them and will say "I know you said... but..." If I said it then go away. Like I am going to make some exception for you because I feel benevolent to you? No no no... But being the intelligent and educated person I am, I wanted to understand how the other side thinks. So I decided to check it out. But I found the attitudes here of the people that do not want to date people with kids just ignorant. My first post wasn't to put anyone down but maybe explain how the other side thinks. But anything that does not give you people what you want or some sort of sick justification is automatically the enemy. The men contacted you because they believe they are different. Every single person on here believes that they are different. We know we are all different. They thought that you might be interested in getting to know them. As individuals. Now what is wrong with that? They did not want you dating their kids. Intelligence and education are not the same. Very, very different. I’m thinking you didn’t write this the way you meant to did you…” But I found the attitudes here of the people that do not want to date people with kids just ignorant.” With all you’ve written, isn’t this you? You are correct, your first post wasn’t offensive however, every one of them since has been. No, someone who spouts off on people who are looking to be treated decently does in a way automatically make them less than desirable.
As far as my ego is concerned, I think there are some on here that definitely eclipse mine on the other side of the argument. You are reading my posts as hostile because you are so defensive and they are not written like that. All are written calm and rational (except the first paragraph in this post as that was written laughing at that idiot). You do come across as a bit pretentious yourself. No not reading them as hostile. Yes, they are definitely written as hostile. Again, it’s the tone of the writing. You did say you were educated right? I don’t see how the implications of your statements could be taken as rational. More as an attack from my perspective, which does cause many to get defensive. It couldn’t have made you laugh too much, you responded by insulting.
I don't think I am better than anyone because I don't know anyone here. However, if the question comes up who did it right then yes I did. So you can think I am pretentious as you want but I just wanted to know why my choice is being disrespected yet you demand respect for yours. To me that isn't very fair now is it? Really? That’s not how your writing comes across. You seem to know everyone well enough to insult us. Yes I consider your writing to be insulting. Definitely lacking in any compassion. You are lucky, plain and simple. No mistakes and no accidences. Congratulations. Well done. Your choice was not disrespected. Your CHOICE of wording is though. Who said this thread was fair?
And to make statements that I should kill myself or that I would hurt children is just immature and inappropriate. And I find it a bit disturbing of the people that would say such things. It makes me disregard your opinion since you do not have the tact nor the couth to post in an intelligent and mature fashion. And you do? | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 10:33:41 AM | Everyone has the right to date who they want. No one here is denying that.
When you call people morons, idiots, uncouth with no class and who did it all wrong..give me a break. Baiting and hating. From your posts, I found your not into children in fact it came across like you don't like them. I was just agreeing with you that you should not date a man who has them.
Just like in the reverse single dads and the women who aren't interested(another post where your words might be a better fit..I mean they are asking you specifically. We weren't.)
As far you putting them into the closet it was a joke(hopefully you really would not do that)
In fact as a reminder this post is asking the question why single men don't LIKE single mothers. Not asking about dating at all. It just happened to turn into that.
Who is the "knaught" in shining armor now?? Are the bells ringing???
That too a joke..just in case.
This isn't a hate fest. Like who you will. Date who you want. Just don't pretend like your better then someone else.We all have a purpose. No one has the right to judge another. Most especially when you haven't walked a mile in the shoes/heels /fins/ whatever .
To me ignorance is ignorance whether college educated or not. No one here called you names. Yet you seemed to do that with almost every post. While at the same time reminding us all how rational and reasonable you are. A class act..uh huh.
Smuggler agrees with you and yet I don't recall him name calling the women here(might be wrong)names. Judging out of turn..though there has been a man battle of some kind
..not sure how that one got started..
Someone mentioned adoption for those young girls who made a dumb pact I agree.
There was a time when the young girls wanted to be like paris hilton(gag) or l.lohan now it appears jamie spears is the it girl. Someone else will come along and hopefully she will be more worthy of emulation. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 10:41:47 AM | jlm, first since you are new to this thread you will not understand the "special" place Johne has taken on it. Repeating over and over the same 4 things for more than 60 pages. Additionally at various times his comments while not only crass, were also derogatory and insulting.
As to the sum and substance of your comments. You are correct in some and miss the point in others. Single men/women have been on made their statements or reasons for not dating singles with children. Preferences, risks, time constraints and others that you have not mentioned. We accept those, as with you, we clearly understand you DON'T wish to date them for your reasons. I accept your reasons, I cannot speak for anyone else. However there have been many posters who have expressed their opinions in a extremely negative insulting way, replete with slurs, innuendos and comments that lack the common curtisies you refer to about yourself. This group seeks knowledge, opinion and information, they also would like to put forth their views and ask only for respect in doing so. No less than what you seek when posting here.
Now as to age, I checked my posts and don't believe I ever mentioned anything about it. What age comment from me are you refering too? Finally, while this is a little out of context you have reffered 2 times I believe to right. One is a couple of posts back where you said "however, if the question comes up who did it right then yes I did". Again I am trying to clarify what "right" are you talking about?Bob | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 11:18:32 AM | Now who is making assumptions? I never said they were mistakes. I said they were choices. Everything has a price and that pool of guys (or girls for those single dads) just got a lot smaller with that choice. One should accept it.
You suggested we were looking for kudos, I was explaining to you why we defend ourselves in these forums with our accomplishments.
I said some people..not you.
I don't really worry about the size of my dating pool, it's quality not quantity that is important to me. Maybe I should show this thread to the single guys without children who ask me out more time then I can appreciate and they would get a clue, they aren't supposed to be dating me. | |
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Posted: 6/22/2008 11:20:05 AM |
No, actually it was because you are a woman that has not walked in my shoes.
No, I choose not to walk in them because I don't care for where they go. You wanted an answer to the question. I gave you one. You don't like it. But in all honesty, is there really any answer you would have liked? I doubt it.
You know what the problem with people quoting that are not too suave at it? They tend to take things out of context and/or don't finish the quote.
On kudos for single parents:
You don't deserve it. Simple. You do what you are supposed to do. And there are so many single parents now I don't see how one stands out over the other in the United States (not sure on other countries and won't assume). The only thing I say to the "solo" situation is that you can look down at others who whine and say it is too hard and make pathetic excuses for not doing what they are doing. I am not going to discuss this anymore. It really has hit a dead end. I am willing to agree to disagree on this point.
Or... you could just stop announcing what an amazing super woman you are for doing what you are supposed to and act like others which just expect it from someone with half a brain...
Yes the innuendo … now this wouldn’t possibly be taken as an insult would it.
No it isn't an insult if you don't expect attention for doing what you are supposed to do. Only if you are seeking attention. It is these women I don't respect. The women that do what they are supposed to do without wanting attention or anything else get my respect. They want acknowledgment for the extraordinary things they achieve, not by doing what they should day to day. I have nothing against single parents that do this. And I am sure there are a lot out there that do. They deserve respect for those extraordinary things, not for doing them and raising their own child. Again, I am going to just agree to disagree here.
This I won't be calling truce on:
Perhaps you can get some play from Smuggler or Johne... or maybe that Ducati fvcktard. I'm sure one of them would be interested in your private photos. *gag* Class act, there.
Now my moron comment with all your out of context references and such:
Okay moron (and I mean that sincerely) private is an option on here! They are not dirty. I just don't want my photos on a free site is all. Maybe if you knew how the site worked then you would know that NORMAL photos can be saved as private and included when messaging. Obviously not the brightest Crayola in the box are you? I never said anything to put them down. I just said that they don't deserve credit for doing the right thing. And btw, can you sound anymore pretentious in your profile? Try, go add another paragraph to the novel lol!
When you can’t respond reasonably you resorted to name calling. Now that’s a mature and intelligent trait. And you were saying that the other poster was defensive. The tone of your responses and innuendos are enough to insult and put people down.
When you call people morons, idiots, uncouth with no class and who did it all wrong..give me a break. Baiting and hating. From your posts, I found your not into children in fact it came across like you don't like them. I was just agreeing with you that you should not date a man who has them.
To me ignorance is ignorance whether college educated or not. No one here called you names. Yet you seemed to do that with almost every post. While at the same time reminding us all how rational and reasonable you are. A class act..uh huh.
Well yeah I kinda was. If that was not a personal attack on me then what was it? It was a specific response to a specific person. Why not attack him for what he said to me. Ah... guess it is okay when he is in agreement huh. He called me a slut more or less. I called him a moron. Don't like it. Don't care! If you are going to make personal attacks then don't expect me to be nice.
jlm, first since you are new to this thread you will not understand the "special" place Johne has taken on it. Repeating over and over the same 4 things for more than 60 pages. Additionally at various times his comments while not only crass, were also derogatory and insulting.
I also made it clear I didn't agree with the man who could not spell "knight." I thought his response was vicious and cruel which made assumptions about the intentions of single parents. I NOT ONCE ever made assumptions as to what you all are looking for. That was definitely insulting of him. I don't need to be new and read it over and over to know something was said just to piss people off.
Smuggler agrees with you and yet I don't recall him name calling the women here(might be wrong)names.
Well if he was referred to as a slut then I am sure he might have something to say to that person.
Now as to age, I checked my posts and don't believe I ever mentioned anything about it. What age comment from me are you refering too?
It was a general statement as it was said by others.
One is a couple of posts back where you said "however, if the question comes up who did it right then yes I did". Again I am trying to clarify what "right" are you talking about?
I did address this.
It isn't about right or wrong. I said if one asked. It is about preference.
However, we live in a society with mores (those are rules made by society based on morality, values, and beliefs). So what I said "if" I meant if you were looking at a right or wrong answer. But I personally believe that it isn't that black and white. It is preference. I am going to drop this because there really isn't anything more for me to add to your "right" references.
And you know what, as far as the "jokes" are concerned. If I said things of that tone to all of you then you all would rip my head off. So joke or not it was to put me down. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/22/2008 11:26:57 AM |
No, I choose not to walk in them because I don't care for where they go.
Dear, I did not ask if you wanted to walk in my shoes or not. I stated a simple fact that you DON'T, so therfore there was no reason to address your issues with single mothers.
I withdrew my original comment towards you, but you choose to address it.
You wanted an answer to the question. I gave you one. You don't like it. But in all honesty, is there really any answer you would have liked? I doubt it
As for the answer to the question, it was not my question that was asked, and I really don't care about the question or the answer.
It was a idiotic question to even be posed, which as left us all at 130 something pages of NOTHING accomplished.
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/22/2008 1:33:32 PM | Huh. I smell a multiple personality ahoy!
Goodness me, you are a bitter twisted little (and yes, there is emphasis on the little) person, arent you?! Let me guess. You dated someone who had children and they took away your blankie?! Awww.
<div class='quote'>Ever consider asking them? I mean, obviously you don't know. So ask why we don't. And it isn't even that we don't like you. It is simply that the kid thing is not what we are looking for in a relationship.
Hmmm. This one really interests me. It is your continual reference to the word 'we'. Are you a lesbian? I sincerely hope not. Had a lot of experience of dating single mothers have we? This faux pas surprises me, given the 'intelligence' of your riveting post.
<div class='quote'>But the truth is that you are not the type of relationship we want. Just like a dog lover with two dogs would not want to date someone who does not care for them. Or a woman allergic to cats would not date a cat person. It is the same thing. It isn't about right or wrong. I said if one asked. It is about preference.
Ah, but he might date you if he wanted another dog, eh? Sorry, that was immature and below the belt. How bad of me.
Has it ever occurred to you that children are actually considered to be higher beings than animals? Where is your respect? My children, sweetheart, will be running your nursing home one day. Actually, it is ALL about right and wrong, and you are very wrong. If someone falls in love and gets married, has kids and through one way or another, ends up alone with those kids, then it is about right or wrong, but I'm sure you know all about this in your vast experience of marriage, divorce and kids.
<div class='quote'>Then I should get EVEN MORE kudos than you because I made sure I didn't get pregnant and did the right thing. Now I am the better person in the spotlight!
And don't you look like a numpty?!
<div class='quote'> Obviously you would not have any comprehension or understanding of what it is to do the right thing like one is supposed to without having to hold up a sign saying "Look at me! Look at me! I did what I was supposed to do like everyone else so give me attention and credit I don't deserve!"
Yup. I do do that. I hold up that sign because I am damn proud of what I have achieved in my life, regardless of the fact that I have children. What, exactly do you have to shout about?
<div class='quote'>Or... you could just stop announcing what an amazing super woman you are for doing what you are supposed to and act like others which just expect it from someone with half a brain...
And you could stop acting like a 1st class tw8t. Sorry, when have I done this? And why on earth do you think that I want your respect? You are one of a rather sad minority of people.
Jealousy is a terrible thing. Grow the hell up.
<div class='quote'>I am an adult and have been independent for many years.
And that is exactly how you will stay if you dont change your attitude. You are not exclusively right, just like noone (including myself) else on here is. Do you have a direct line to the Big Man? Does He give you His personal definition of 'right'? Get off your moral high horse, hunny, the fall will be a long and painful one. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/22/2008 4:15:02 PM | I do not have Will not date single moms in my profile becaue I do not want it there. I have made a few friends from this site who are single moms. They are good people. I like good people but it does not mean I want to get into a situation that would make me nervous from a legal and financial perspective.
Single moms do not deserve special consideration. I do not ask for special consideration when dating if I do not meet some woman's criteria for what she s looking for in a man that is her choice...I have to accept it. If they will not date me because I have a disbility or because I am not tall I have to accept it, I may not like it but I have to accept it.
Just because a man does not want to date a single mom it does not make him shallow or a loser as a few who have posted earlier in this thrad have said. All t means is a single mom is not what I am looking for. Of course my reasons are mostly based on legalities but that is my choice.
Just because someone is in a given situation it does not make them more deserving of anything...no one owes anyone a relationship, your ex may owe you child support but no man a single mom meets after she moves on owes her anything.
Those who support the rants of single moms on this thread...what are you trying to accomplish exactly? | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/22/2008 4:25:30 PM |
do not have Will not date single moms in my profile becaue I do not want it there.
Well, ain't that logical.
Those who support the rants of single moms on this thread...what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
Darling, if you don't get it by now, you are NEVER going to get it. There are 30 some odd pages as illustration. | |
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