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Posted: 6/23/2008 8:10:13 PM | westpark...twisting my words to what??? What do you gain from that? Nothing.
I was not saying women were fragile and all the rest of that nonsense. I wasn't saying how cool men are because they can call each other mangina and vuxter and all that.
I was saying I find it more obnoxious and trite when women feel the need to debase other women. Most especially when they say my road is right and yours is wrong. IT is just silly. Who is to say who chose right or who chose wrong. Oh ya no one here. Just in case that needs clarification.
As to you personally. I think your a moron for twisting my words. Not because your a man who doesn't like single mothers. Your twisting of my words is moronic and not fair. Yet I am not going to shrink with fear or cry in my soup because you don't like how I express myself. Nor am I going to hate or bait. With your need to call me out and twist my words around to suit your need for what>?? Not entirely sure. Are you trying to be a knighted not?? But either way I will still be happy with my road with my thoughts how women should be supportive of one another...and with my cleavage. We don't always need to agree...ideas are meant to be shared. IT is how you do it and what your motives are that you should be conscious of.
jlm said earlier she wanted thoughts on why single dads kept trying to talk to her...I just mentioned that another post might be more befitting. I mean mostly here it is single mothers..with Steve and perhaps a couple of others as the voice to single fatherhood.
So kiss mine you vukxter!!..oh yes your right that did feel much better. Perhaps I should take a look at the road. Hostility anger and want to talk about classy lol..nope its really not for me but to each his own.
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Posted: 6/23/2008 9:09:39 PM |
Now you've got JOHNE using "anything typically associated with women is insulting to men" as a tactic, Smuggler. I can only imagine how proud you are that your little boi is growing up in the shadow of the old man.
You sure you want to stroll so blithely down the "openly misogynist" path, Johne? Or might you have misspoken yourself?
Ohhh Pet... You try so hard.
There are several 'definitions' to the word misogynist. One, I would have to agree with... "the mistrust of women" And I have good reason... All of which, Im sure you are going to try and turn into some jab... but keep trying... Really...
At least I have the backbone, unlike some, to admit it.... instead of some jelly back kiss ass (Pet) who is in some desperate wussbag need of acceptance...like you would seem to be... LOL...
I dont agree with the same rhetoric Johne always puts out there... but at least he is consistant... and I used to think you were too... but then again. The only thing you are consistant at is vile, contemptable, attempts at making a jab. And it really gets boring. You've gone so far as to call another man a Fvctard because he is vocal about his opinion, and doesnt back down from your banshee harping...
LOL.... Its been awhile there Stalin.... Time for you to go finish that quilt... | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 9:20:01 PM | Speaking of trying WAY too hard to take cheap and ineffective jabs... 
At least I have the backbone, unlike some, to admit it.... instead of some jelly back kiss ass (Pet) who is in some desperate wussbag need of acceptance...like you would seem to be... LOL...
I dont agree with the same rhetoric Johne always puts out there... but at least he is consistant... and I used to think you were too... but then again. The only thing you are consistant at is vile, contemptable, attempts at making a jab. And it really gets boring. You've gone so far as to call another man a Fvctard because he is vocal about his opinion, and doesnt back down from your banshee harping...
LOL.... Its been awhile there Stalin.... Time for you to go finish that quilt...
Again, having an opinion you don't agree with doesn't require a need for acceptance... It just means I stand on the other side (the right side) of your pathetic little misogynist crusade.
The best part is, you have absolutely no idea how pathetic you are. Try real hard and you might catch that poor, impressionable 20- or 30-something and keep him from making that terrible mistake (or series of mistakes) that has you so bitter and mistrustful. Oh wait, no time machine. Bummer. | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 9:36:49 PM | I have been a single mother from the time my daughter was born. Her father and I were engaged to be married and two months before she made her enterance into the world he decided he didn't want to be a part of our lives anymore and he left.  He didn't even have the ballz to show up at the hospital and to this day he has never seen her.
I didn't even consider dating until she was a year old and I will admit, it has been hard. However, I make sure to let who ever it is that I am talking to know that I do have a sweet, happy, beautiful little girl (that will now be 3 in November). I have only "dated" one guy since I had her and even he was distant around her. Some guys are cut out for it, and some guys aren't.
As for those guys who keep mentioning that they don't want to be daddy's so they just don't date women with children... My stepdad NEVER wanted children.. However, he fell in love with my mother (and yes, he knew about us) and now he is a stepfather (not a very good one but he tried) to three children (myself included). He was able to look past the fact that she came with a 'pre-made family' if you will, and see that he really did love her and wanted to be there, even if he had to take us too.
For the single mothers (and fathers) who get REJECTED because you are a single partent, just keep moving forward, they really don't know what they are missing. When I met my daughters father I was a single female dating a single father. I was 19 and he had an 11 year old son. But we made it work (even if it was only for a little while)... There is hope, just don't go out there looking for an instant daddy or an instand mommy either. That can be scarry for the 'instant parent' and what in turn tends to drive them away. When you start dating, your date should know about your kid(s), but don't try to force them to become a part of the childs life right away. That will not only end up hurting you if it ends, but the child as well.
My heart can be broken, I will get over it. But don't you date break my childs heart.  | |
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Posted: 6/23/2008 9:52:29 PM |
Imagine that. LOL... Truth in ADVERTISING? Although, if the "man" she finds is there to take care of her and her kids, Im not sure where the reciprocated "spoiling" is going to come into play... How odd...
Here is one that would prove the point many say just isnt true. GRANTED... its just ONE! I get it. But it does lend credence to everything you ladies seem to be fighting against... Quirky seems to have caught it, and called her out on it!
Smuggler,
I don't think anyone is arguing that there aren't single mothers out there who are like that. (Although I admit that it's possible that I overlooked something.)
We are simply trying to argue that many single parents are not like that. We don't want to be lumped in with the idiots who do behave like that.
Similarly, some men are rapists. However, if somebody were to imply that most or all men are rapists, I would object. The reality is that while some men are, there are many of us who are not. I do not care to be lumped in with the idiots who are. (Now, I realize there is a significant difference between being a rapist and a golddigger. It's just an example.) | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 2:28:41 AM | johne
Getting dumped as made you more bitter, which I didn't think was possible. I get it now, you're never ending hissy fit towards single mother is because even they don't want you. I can't understand how a man of your wealth, rugged good looks and sparkling personally would have a hard time finding a good women.
johne needs a hug...GROUP HUG!
tfire1
Besides, a woman who is nurturing is very very attractive.
It's very attractive in a man too. While I don't need someone to take care of me, it is nice to have someone who wants to rub my bum when I can't sleep. (Some people use warm milk, getting my tush rubbed puts me to sleep lol)
Smuggler1 & desertrhino
If we all concede you both can piss further then the king of juggle would you end this pissing contest?
Luckie1985
He was able to look past the fact that she came with a 'pre-made family' if you will, and see that he really did love her and wanted to be there, even if he had to take us too.
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Posted: 6/24/2008 3:46:09 AM | I think women think about it to much...
its not that we run or even turnd away its like we as men dont want to take you away from your child like me ima jealous type but i no you chilid comes first... so its good to start off with eachother with no children those are the relationships that tends to last longer... starting yur own famly is better then interuping a bond between mother and child... | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 6:15:23 AM |
Smuggler,
I don't think anyone is arguing that there aren't single mothers out there who are like that. (Although I admit that it's possible that I overlooked something.)
We are simply trying to argue that many single parents are not like that. We don't want to be lumped in with the idiots who do behave like that.
Similarly, some men are rapists. However, if somebody were to imply that most or all men are rapists, I would object. The reality is that while some men are, there are many of us who are not. I do not care to be lumped in with the idiots who are. (Now, I realize there is a significant difference between being a rapist and a golddigger. It's just an example.)
LOL.... I well know that this one particular woman is not indicative of the general (single mother) crowd here. Although, in some of the arguements that fly back and forth, one would think, by those very arguements, that these type of women dont exist... Period. From my experience, what Ive seen, I think its much more prolific than what is represented here.
The reasoning put forth by the various men, do have some basis in reality... Granted, they dont need to continuously post the exact same thing every time... but none the less. Many of the views are coming from different people and their personal experiences, yet they all seem to follow the same chord. Just like a stereo typical behavior, there has to be that particular behavior exemplified, for there to be a stereo type developed.
It seems that there are some guys who read the OP Thread question, jump on, give their 2 cents, then there is a week of the same people yelling condemnations that he, and apparently she now, is wrong. That they are shallow minded, judgemental, have no basis for their conclusions, so on and so forth.
Its what... maybe 1, or 3 minutes out of someones life to hop on, say their piece and hop off... but to many who seem to live off this thread, its seems to become their whole world.
I myself am somewhat guilty of it. Most of my work for the day is done by 1130am, and the rest of the day, I cruise through here, other threads, other sites... surf the net and push papers.... I try hard not to make this my life. But I will admit that I have learned a lot. Yeah, I do tend to jump on guys when they seem oh so willing to sell out to some feminist view on the world. I think that there are many who need to buck up, and quit trying so hard to fit into the pigeon hole that they want to put us into.
I also think there are many males, who have no idea of what it is to be a man, because they have never had a role model to look up too.... so thier only basis, is that of chasing skirts, making babies and hanging out with their buddies drinking beer... Just so no one thinks I would be willing to give them a pass... I personally think castration should be brought into the mix.
Ive said it before, Step up to the plate... if not, you dont need the balls to play with.
It also seems to me that, on many different threads... much along the lines of this one, things come to pass that have turned it into a whine fest for people...
When I brought up the subject about the HS kids making the pact to get pregnant... Many of the women took it as a personal affront to themselves. Making my point, that the most vocal of the crowd, were not interested in giving views, but making sure they were on the defense.... I thought it was a good example of what I happen to see... even though followers of this thread tell me Im wrong. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 7:40:11 AM | Smuggler, your not wrong, the problem is your not right either. Nor am I or any one here for that matter. This isn't a right or wrong issue, unless someone wants to say, just stick to the black and white of the question. Human beings don't fit well in black and white. Not only are there greys, pinks, reds and whatever other colors there are. In addition feelings don't come in colors or viewpoints, they are just how we feel.
People online tend to forget it's a living, feeling person on the other end of the communication. How many threads have you read where people talk about read/delete or no answer to emails. It would take 20 seconds to say "no thanks" but since that person who wrote them is just an unknown profile they weren't interested in, they hit delete. They would be more polite to a drunken fool in a club then to a good person on here. So if your opinion runs counter to theirs or worse what you write is felt as an insult or indictment of their lifestyle they react. In many cases much personnal sacrifice went into achieving what they did and to have it compared to that poster you reffered to before is a slap in the face. Even though that woman made choices in her life, put that profile up, poorly written, asking for what may seem impossible. It is the way she sees it, it is what she wants. So you and I may pass her by but who knows, some other guy may think she "floats his boat". It is not for us to judge her, just to choose not to date her. Bob | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 8:57:38 AM | I like Smuggler's last 2 posts. I also feel Bob has some good points in his last post. What bothers me in general when these types of threads get started is that some (such as myself) will post why we do not want to date single moms and we get called various names and told our opinion does not count Well why ask the question if you do not want the answer.
Something else that bothers me and a few posters have accused me of it is that if you do not want to date a single mom you hate children. I do not hate children, far from it. I just chose not to date a single mom because it is not something I want to get myself into.
Why do some take the fact that do not want to date them so personally? Would you rather some men who would perfer not to date you do so you and dumped you before it got serious in was really just wasting your time? Or woud you rather be told that you are a good person and worthy of forming a friendship with? I have seen many threads on how a guy "used" a single mom for sex when he truely was not interested in her long term. To me those men are being unfair. I have met some single moms who are god people. I have met a few who think the world should revolve around them and their children. Not everyone wants a rady made family and those (single moms and dads) need to understand that. Many understand it but in my experiences in life many do not understand it and it is really sad. It is those gold diggers/users and those who think the world revolve around them and their children are the ones many of us speak of but some want to "circle the wagons" and say that they are not like that. You personally may not be like that but three are a few posts on this thread from single moms that prove that those types are out there.
Let's just say that single moms were the first choice of every single man for dating. So let's say we looked at the fact a woman with children was single as the best thing and we could not wait to hear abot the next break up because that would give us another chance to date a single mom. With single mom's having their choice of any man they wanted would you not have criteria for that man you date to meet? You may well already have criteria for men that you date to meet but some posters come across as though the only women men should consider dating is a single mom (one poster even says he feel single women should only date single fathers.)
The fact is we all have choices if you are free to make your choices and I am free to make my choices what is the problem? If I sai all women who will not date a man with a disability are shallow I would be wrong, so why do some bash men who will not date single moms?
When I get form letter responses for politicians and lobby groups on the issue of loco parentis it comes across as though they are telling me this is the law accept it. So I respond personally with my dating policy. It is not wrong for me to choose what makes me happy and to stay away from that which I might regret and feel is morally wrong for a woman to do to a man with the backing of government. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 9:15:39 AM | One other thing, I did post my views as well on the "pact of 17" and was largely ignored. I cannot see a connection to this thread, mainly because these were children. 15 year old girls hardly qualify as women, let alone single moms, even though those that keep their baby will be exactly that. My point on it is that in that case it was poor parenting, poor communication and no supervision to allow that to happen. I can remember doing idiotic things at 15, I'm sure you can too. Unfortunately for these girls the idiotic behavior carries a life sentence no different then drug overdoses that kill, drunken driving by teens who die or crimes they commit because they are feeling the invincibility of youth. Just my thoughts. Bob
PS sorry for the additional post, to much going on here today. By the way, Smuggler, you were looking for single gals, did you hook up with jlm? LOL | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 12:14:56 PM |
People online tend to forget it's a living, feeling person on the other end of the communication. How many threads have you read where people talk about read/delete or no answer to emails. It would take 20 seconds to say "no thanks" but since that person who wrote them is just an unknown profile they weren't interested in, they hit delete. They would be more polite to a drunken fool in a club then to a good person on here. So if your opinion runs counter to theirs or worse what you write is felt as an insult or indictment of their lifestyle they react. In many cases much personnal sacrifice went into achieving what they did and to have it compared to that poster you reffered to before is a slap in the face. Even though that woman made choices in her life, put that profile up, poorly written, asking for what may seem impossible. It is the way she sees it, it is what she wants. So you and I may pass her by but who knows, some other guy may think she "floats his boat". It is not for us to judge her, just to choose not to date her.
LOL... Bob.. As always, you're truely a gentleman of the first order... My points are simple, and I would hope they were not to be twisted, to form some convoluted theory by some short sighted, limp wristed, wack job thinking Im a mysoginst. As there are several definitions, Im unsure why one would focus on the worst one first.
I admit freely that I dont trust women. Look at the court system we have, look at the statistics for No Faults and who files for them. Ive seen first hand what some can do, and even Shakespear said it... "Hell hath no fury, like a woman scorned." So there are some aspects of my life that I watch carefully.
As for what I wrote as an example of someone who may be considered a "slap in the face" .... I didnt write the profile. But, for as much as has been thrown back and forth, and for as many times as Ive seen it written here, that "women just are not like that..." Here comes one waving a flag. Im not slapping anyone in the face, but the constant rhetoric of being told that I am the one with the problem for the choices, and my reasons why, when I can point out that in fact, NO... it is something that is out there, denying it or not..., does not make me the problem.
And I post here, not to consistantly harp... that is NOT my intention. As a matter of FACT, most of my posts, I feel, are not derogitory towards single mothers at all. I do draw the line with some idiots though. I do hope that some, who may read this and what others have posted here, may gain some understanding... some insight to measure against thier own lives, kind of like those 17 idiots that made the pact..
One other thing, I did post my views as well on the "pact of 17" and was largely ignored. I cannot see a connection to this thread, mainly because these were children. 15 year old girls hardly qualify as women, let alone single moms, even though those that keep their baby will be exactly that. My point on it is that in that case it was poor parenting, poor communication and no supervision to allow that to happen. I can remember doing idiotic things at 15, I'm sure you can too. Unfortunately for these girls the idiotic behavior carries a life sentence no different then drug overdoses that kill, drunken driving by teens who die or crimes they commit because they are feeling the invincibility of youth. Just my thoughts.
Your insights didnt go ignored... I couldnt agree with you more about what you said... I suppose I question where/when this type of cycle will stop. Some have said that I seem all to willing to place blame on the girls... Well, unless it was RAPE... I would say that it would be 50/50... BUT they made a PACT! So, yeah, I would place the blame on the girls. They are the ones that are going to be stuck with the kids for the next 18 foreseeable years. More than likely, the boys are just going to flake off, and not own up to the responsibility, and get a pass. As seems to be the general attitude of society today. Granted there are the Courts who are trying enforce laws against "deadbeat dads" and there are those in the 'soccer mom posse' who have nothing better to do than waddle around the court houses shuffling paperwork from one office to another... But what, has happened to us as people?
Rights, Responsibilities and Priveleges... Im concerned about our future generations.. they are all about marching for Rights... but somehow, they seem to have gotten Priveleges mixed up with Rights... And Responsibility has gone out the window... its always someone elses problem, someone elses fault... No one takes responsibility for things ... Like these 17... No common sense whats0ever! | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 2:09:29 PM | ^^^ Smuggler, that is something I am curious about. What exactly do you gain from reading and posting in these forums?
Just because someone has a different opinion to you does not make them 'wrong'. Your opinions are personal to you, but that doe not make them right! Being consistently insulting and calling people 'idiots' or claiming they are excuses for men just shows that you have little maturity and little understanding of the world. I really do hope that someday you find someone to make you happy.
Isnt that interesting, everyone?! As sson as multiple personality profiles was mentioned, jlm disappeared! Goodness. Just like Salidan the terrible in a puff of smoke. | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 4:41:35 PM | | Well let us all take a moment to say aloha, to one of our favorites on this thread. She seems to have slipped away with nary a word, but will be missed sorely. Good hunting or fishing wherever you have gone off to. I certainly hoped you landed the big one. Adieu QuirkyFishy we will surely miss your posts. Bob | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 6:17:46 PM | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080624/ap_on_re_us/pregnancy_pact
Yep. Publicity stunt, apparently by the principal of the school, or a stupid joke gone FAR astray.
Just in case you didn't make the leap of logic: This (coming from multiple independent sources) pretty much means it Didn't Happen. Which means all the outrage and blather is unfounded. Sorry to yank a rug out from under a primary attack/argument.
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Posted: 6/24/2008 6:34:26 PM | | Thank God, rhino, that was just to sick. That was a nightmare of great proportions if that many people fell asleep at the switch. But if you think about it, it would be difficult in my mind that SO many parents wouldn't care. Which is why I reacted as I did. It would have to be a macabre "Stepford" community that would let that happen. Bob | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 7:57:14 PM | | i would like to know what is wrong woth my profile, and being 43 single mom, PLUMP=5ft2, very short brown hair. i cant even get a look, or nothen. once in awhile a BUM if u know what i mean..... HELP ME what is the problem... | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 8:01:34 PM | | first and for most the kid is apprehensive when a stranger enters a life of a single parent and their child it is ackward for everyone is eager to go with the flow to keep it simple for the child have we all forgotten how at 4 yrs of age they are cute and willing to please and by the age of 14 they become possessed hey these kids lives are constantly changing physically and mentally and i guess people just forget how they were with there parents and forget the rough years and now a days people find it easier to walk away it is kinda a joke i must say to many people forget about toughen it out and its a shame hang in there single parents we all are inthe same boat and it is time to ride the waves what will be will be and enjoy the time with your kids | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 8:53:24 PM | Which means all the outrage and blather is unfounded. Sorry to yank a rug out from under a primary attack/argument
Don't be an ass, or bury your head in the sand....just because these 17 girls weren't doing it, doesn't mean other 15-year-old girls aren't, even if no pact is involved. Haven't YOU noticed the higher statistics in highschool kids getting pregnant in this day and age, compared to when both you and I were in high school? Because I have...and frankly, I think that's pretty scary. When I was 15, sex was the last thing on my mind, but that's just me perhaps...but I can't be the only one feeling THAT old now, can I?
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Posted: 6/24/2008 9:29:20 PM |
Don't be an ass, or bury your head in the sand....just because these 17 girls weren't doing it, doesn't mean other 15-year-old girls aren't, even if no pact is involved. Haven't YOU noticed the higher statistics in highschool kids getting pregnant in this day and age, compared to when both you and I were in high school? Because I have...and frankly, I think that's pretty scary. When I was 15, sex was the last thing on my mind, but that's just me perhaps...but I can't be the only one feeling THAT old now, can I?
Well, here are some statistics from about the time you were in high school compared to now:
Nationwide, the teenage pregnancy rate declined by 2% between
1999 and 2000 (from 85.7 to 83.6 pregnancies per 1,000 women aged 15–19). From 1986
to 2000, the rate dropped by 22% and, more importantly, fell by 28% since peaking in
1990.
from: http://www.plannedparenthoodnj.org/assets/library/96_statepregn.pdf
Another: http://www.teenpregnancy.org/resources/data/prates.asp
(107/1,100 in 1986 vs. 75/1,000 in 2002)
I'm not saying it's not a problem, I'm just saying that it's not the sudden epidemic that some alarmists are painting it to be. And that's not sticking my head in the sand, it's pure realism. To quote the Matrix: "There is no spoon."
I'm also not saying there is no increase. Yes, last year there was a 3% increase, offsetting some of the 34% decrease since 1991. It's something to watch and a warning to work on condom and other contraceptive awareness and use among teens. But it's hardly a horrible threat, and making sh!t up about pregnancy pacts to get attention is definitely not helping the cause. From: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/05/AR2007120501208.html
And if that's me you're talking about here
I even tried offering a few less-inflammatory-worded possible answers to the question. Nothing doing, I got hacked down for being a step-parent, even though evidently I HAVE decided to share my life with a child that isn't mine biologically. (Although, when you kiss a$$, you tend to lose your ball$ or just end up licking your own, so he just pretended he was never addressing me in the first place, LMAO!)
All I can say is you don't extract meaning from the written word very well. I got on your case because you said EVEN THOUGH you had taken on ONE child, you wouldn't have done so if the guy had some larger number (3 or 4, IIRC). I sure as hell didn't pretend I wasn't talking to you in the first place. I was pretty damn specific in trying to correct your initial misinterpretation of my intent, even used quotes, thinking you couldn't possibly misunderstand if it was spelled out in a very explicit manner. Shows how easy it is to misjudge people. *shrug* | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 9:52:52 PM | | why is it no men dont like PLUMP girls-- ?? gee and on top of it single mom, what are they afraid of is the question???? but i do tell them i am a mom.... well i hope to learn on what am i doing wrong.......... | |
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Posted: 6/24/2008 10:50:22 PM |
Don't be an ass, or bury your head in the sand....just because these 17 girls weren't doing it, doesn't mean other 15-year-old girls aren't, even if no pact is involved.
He might be doing that because braying like a giant sanctimonious jackass is one of his natural talents.
Someone should point out rhino, that knitting has long been seen as theraputic for those with anger management issues rather than some sexist comment. You may want to look into that.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25319565/
GLOUCESTER, Mass. - The city's mayor said Monday there is no evidence a group of young girls made a pact to get pregnant and raise their babies together, seeking to dispel an explosive theory put forth by the high school principal.
Now why would a mayor speak on this and what about potential bias?
Conspicuously absent from that meeting was Gloucester High School Principal Joseph Sullivan, who has not responded to repeated requests for comment after he was quoted last week in a Time magazine story saying the girls planned to get pregnant together.
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The mayor, who also sits on the school committee, said she was not comfortable having Sullivan at the meeting.
Ohhhhh I get it. You can't have someone there in person to dispute your rosy-skied little community pep-talk.
Time also reported Monday that Pathways for Children chief executive Sue Todd, whose organization runs the high school's onsite daycare center, told the magazine on June 13 that its social worker had heard of the girls' plan to get pregnant as early as last fall. Todd has not returned calls from The Associated Press.
Ut oh, a corroborating account of the "pact" story. Not looking good for the "it was a hoax" story when you consider the sources of both claims is it.
Farmer also said it was clear some of the girls were not trying very hard not to become pregnant. The principal had said some girls gave high-fives and planned baby showers while others were sullen if their pregnancy tests at the high school clinic came back negative.
Brendan Henry, a 17-year-old going into his senior year at Gloucester, said the attention surrounding the alleged pact has taken the focus off bigger issues facing young people, including school underfunding. Still, he did not doubt that a pact could have existed.
"It definitely sounds like something that would happen at Gloucester High School," he said. "It doesn't sound too far fetched at all."
Yes I know circumstantial and character witness essentially. But added to the rest.... it was planned.
I'd say the premise on that example still stands.
Take a lesson from the late Mr. Carlin and don't bite your tongue or run to join a group hug when you hear a story involving stupidity of this magnitude..... Call them on it, make it socially unacceptable once again to be that irresponsible. I'd take bets that if that happened you would see 1/ fewer single parents and 2/ A shift to responsible single parents becoming the majority. | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/24/2008 11:02:58 PM | Loony, go read more on the story. There's a lot more out there.
If any such pact existed, it was between a very few girls, and consisted more of a "if we get pregnant, we'll support each other and get through school," than a "let's get pregnant and screw the Man (or man, or boy...)"
He might be doing that because braying like a giant sanctimonious jackass is one of his natural talents.
Someone should point out rhino, that knitting has long been seen as theraputic for those with anger management issues rather than some sexist comment. You may want to look into that.
Also, do try to not be a prick. I know it's hard when you're developing a cheering section with Smuggler, but do try. :) You do look charming in the tights, though. The polysyllabic word there in the middle, though... that's impressive. Strong work. Don't you have a hot bi babe to service or something? | |
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| Ever Wonder Why Single Men Do Not like Single mothers?
Posted: 6/24/2008 11:57:10 PM |
Strong work. Don't you have a hot bi babe to service or something?
Umm actually I have 3 not that it was ever any of you business, But may aswell address it as I draw your attention to your ad hominem attack and complete lack of facts to counter what I stated above. (Don't worry perhaps you will be that popular one day if SNL brings back the Spockets sketches with the Dieter character) .
The social worker in the school knew of the pact last summer, the principal was not allowed to attend the meeting and contradict the mayors painting of a normal idyllic town, the girls peers are not the least surprised...... Now what does that add up to?
Address the issue if you can rather than the man or woman. If you can't, then stew in self-righteousness. As for cheering for smuggler, no need to he might be blunt even a little coarse but he has addressed issues which you will not. Frankly bob seems the most .....tranquil of the bunch, and steve had some good points for the guys aswell. Quirky wasn't afraid to call out either gender on blatant stupidity, Simmah and CG make contributions which further the discussion. You...... well maybe you can go give H2O a hand in telling everyone why they shouldn't drive a truck in current events. | |
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