| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/10/2008 9:32:38 PM |
On Your Sesame Persona Test I'm Elmo.
After picking myself up off the floor I took the test too.
Kermit the frog - classic over-achiever who can only get a date with the one gal he doesn't want | |
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| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/10/2008 10:24:47 PM |
Unless it's to teach a lesson about just how easily the behavior can be used against you. Then I'll take joy in it. I love being ironic. In this sense, ENTPs can be very manipulative
This is where I apply more discretion.
However this is what I find is funniest about manipulation...is that when you turn it on the ones who began the issue (the other personalities with lower IQ)...they become somewhat...umm...upset (?) ...
As you and I both know LBP...because NTs are able to detach themselves emotionally...
...if we choose to "punish" or take an eye for an eye...we both know who the loser is which is why I so rarely get involved in those scenarios
I just want to stress it is only unethical behavior which provokes my inner-Loki
Im of the same opinion. Deal with me directly and with respect...there will be no issue.
INTJ = Hannibal, ENTP = the Road Runner (meep meep!) or Bugs Bunny. Do you think if Hannibal tried to skin Bugs, he'd get away with it?? Hell no. Bugs would make a sitcom of it so that others could have fun watching Hannibal "try" to do it
Oh puhlease...we're talking Hannibal here...not Wile E Coyote or Elmer Fudd.
Do you even think Hannibal would bother chasing? Hannibal would wait...patiently ...and slit that bird's throat in its sleep. Silently and sup on it.
The runner may choose a sitcom as vengeance...Hannibal would just choose complete annihilation, cold and callous.
When you're confident in your skills you do not need to chase.
You do not even need to be forewarned ...as being a strategist the same as ENTPs are....means you're able to find your enemies weakness without bothering to think about or plan anything.
Frankly most INTJs wont bother with a person unless they chose to repeatedly make a nuisance of themselves.
Which reminds me...there's someone I need to catch up with.
Here's the thing with INTJs...if you are silly enough to engage them and if you wound them you need to hope that wound is fatal...because if its not...you dont stand a chance.
So best if they let you go...you leave without fuss.
Ergo...remember Clarice??...she may have had the aptitude to find Hannibal but thats only because SHE was also INTJ and HE allowed her... more importantly it was because he loved her...
And is the only reason he spared her instead of eating her alive too. | |
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| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/10/2008 11:48:15 PM | I'm an ENFJ...
Idealist Portrait of the Teacher (ENFJ)
Even more than the other Idealists, Teachers have a natural talent for leading students or trainees toward learning, or as Idealists like to think of it, they are capable of calling forth each learner's potentials. Teachers (around two percent of the population) are able - effortlessly, it seems, and almost endlessly-to dream up fascinating learning activities for their students to engage in. In some Teachers, this ability to fire the imagination can amount to a kind of genius which other types find hard to emulate. But perhaps their greatest strength lies in their belief in their students. Teachers look for the best in their students, and communicate clearly that each one has untold potential, and this confidence can inspire their students to grow and develop more than they ever thought possible.
In whatever field they choose, Teachers consider people their highest priority, and they instinctively communicate personal concern and a willingness to become involved. Warmly outgoing, and perhaps the most expressive of all the types, Teachers are remarkably good with language, especially when communicating in speech, face to face. And they do not hesitate to speak out and let their feelings be known. Bubbling with enthusiasm, Teachers will voice their passions with dramatic flourish, and can, with practice, become charismatic public speakers. This verbal ability gives Teachers a good deal of influence in groups, and they are often asked to take a leadership role.
Teachers like things settled and organized, and will schedule their work hours and social engagements well ahead of time-and they are absolutely trustworthy in honoring these commitments. Valuing as they do interpersonal cooperation and harmonious relations, Teachers are extraordinarily tolerant of others, are easy to get along with, and are usually popular wherever they are.
Teachers are highly sensitive to others, which is to say their intuition tends to be well developed. Certainly their insight into themselves and others is unparalleled. Without a doubt, they know what is going on inside themselves, and they can read other people with uncanny accuracy. Teachers also identify with others quite easily, and will actually find themselves picking up the characteristics, emotions, and beliefs of those around them. Because they slip almost unconsciously into other people's skin in this way, Teachers feel closely connected with those around them, and thus show a sincere interest in the joys and problems of their employees, colleagues, students, clients, and loved ones.
Mikhail Gorbachev, Oprah Winfrey, Pope John Paul II, Ralph Nader, John Wooden, and Margaret Mead are examples of Teacher Idealists. | |
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| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/11/2008 5:21:44 AM |
As an INTP, I almost envy the J's since they can reach hard conclusions - I just think they're wrong most of the time - usually because they don't consider the other side (there's always another side, which drives most people mad if they hang around for the duration of my thought processes)
I agree, J's tend to want to boil everything down to a simplistic black/white choice and usually for their own self interests, they arent terribly interested truth for its own sake and developing the big picture. You always see lot of it in election years. Our political system at least from Lincoln forward has been extremely J heavy. INTPs just arent power seekers, we make better behind scene advisors if you can get us interested enough. Be nice to see some ENTPs rise to leadership though. I have a good ENTP friend I see once a year (he and his wife travel a lot for buisiness) and its amazing seeing his people skills. Course being an extreme expressed introvert I probably am easily impressed by such.
My biggest problem with relationships is that most of the time I don't seek them out and when I do, if it's too much work, I just don't have that much skin in it to continue on
I put profile up on POF for about a year at the urging of penpal friend. I even designed it to not get much response, but would get one every month or two, and got to dreading when anybody replied, meant I had to deal with people. Especially with the weird world of online dating rules and snap decisions. Guess I just mostly wanted somebody interesting to talk to rather than goal of some instant relationship that many here seem to be looking for. Finally hid my profile just occasionally come here to look at forums. Cant resist these MB threads.
I do best with a large social circle since that allows me to enjoy the variety of personalities and ideas of many people without having to become part of a clan that are in lockstep with each other's beliefs. In my teens and college I was incredibly popular
I like variety of ideas. But alas am bad about not doing all (any?) of the socially expected things to maintain contacts/friendships. Intps live in their own heads alot I think and makes relationships and even friendships hard to maintain. From INTP websites get impression that the rare female intps are usually more social than males and those of us strongly expressed introverts we are indeed hermits. Especially as male hormones wind down in middle age, there just is little incentive to go seeking relationship, the desire to not have to deal with people is stronger than urge for companionship.
The recent ENTP-INTJ debate in this thread is interesting. Dont think most understand NT use of debate without taking it personally. Notice NTs tend not to attack the person but to challenge the ideas. | |
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| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/11/2008 7:21:42 AM | I'm an ENFP, which is strange in a way since I'm a serious loner and introvert. Although I suppose I'm kind of a paradox since I'm also extremelly friendly and outgoing when I'm around people, even with strangers.
To be perfectly honest, I don't pay too much attention to those things, no matter what the "experts" say. Sure, most of the description of an ENFP fits me well...but so do a couple of others, not to mention that a mixture of a few other descriptions fit me just as well also.
In my opinion, to try and pigeon hole and shove people in some narrow little boxes after answering a few questions that many don't even have an answer that fits them is like saying that all caucasian women who are 51 years of age and have short dark hair ALL look like me.
Yes I'm cynical (and very skeptical) and no I don't have much faith in any of the "so called experts"...I wonder what category or box I'd be shoved in if "they" knew that? 
JMO
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Posted: 11/11/2008 7:54:34 AM |
I'm an ENFP, which is strange in a way since I'm a serious loner and introvert.
I don't see how one can be an ENFP and a serious loner. The whole issue of "E" vs. "I" hinges on where do you get your energy. Do you get from being alone or do you get it from other people? I'm an ENFP/ENTP borderline and I get seriously depressed being seriously alone.
I find the four basic temperaments: Rational, Idealist, Guardian, Artisan to be of more importance if you are using this approach to find a mate. Some temperaments just don't work and play well together. | |
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| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/11/2008 8:01:06 AM | | I work with standardized psychological tests on a daily basis. Tests are very limited in what they can tell us. It is a mistake to give them too much weight. It's fun, and perhaps can help us target out strengths and weaknesses if we want to build in or change those. That's all. But then I'm an Elmo, so consider the source. | |
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Posted: 11/11/2008 10:51:55 AM | Nice to hear from a fellow INTP! I really get annoyed with people who insist on being "right" over the issue. It negates the whole discussion in my mind and I tune out quickly. The only time I get into it is when something larger is at stake (which is why I worked in the environmental field for much less money that I could have made elsewhere.) I can easily get lost in trying to distill the truth of the matter without regard to my own personal edification. I have found that lesser-intentioned people (and most are, in my experience) project me to be egotistical and selfish. This is a new revelation for me because I always assumed everyone had the same striving for truth. This has caused me to be more of an introvert (I took the test several times and each time I was more and more "I") and cautious.
The fact that the J's are so quick to think they own the truth and revel in their cleverness and superiority causes me to ponder how much damage they are doing to our systems. Without a passion for truth for its own sake, we have the kind of politics and values that we see around us. I wonder if countries can be typed? No one seems to have the "time" for real understanding any more. | |
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Posted: 11/11/2008 5:13:55 PM | I don't see how one can be an ENFP and a serious loner. The whole issue of "E" vs. "I" hinges on where do you get your energy. Do you get from being alone or do you get it from other people? I'm an ENFP/ENTP borderline and I get seriously depressed being seriously alone.
I'm border line ENTP/INTP and I love being alone. I would probably be considered a loner by a lot of people until they saw me in a crowd. My preference though is to have no distractions so I can focus on ideas. I have to remind myself to socialize with people. I've heard ENTPs described as the most introverted of the extroverts. I need to recharge my batteries just like introverts do. I do get energy from attention seeking sometimes so those aspects of my personality are there. ENFPs are supposed to be my personality cousin. I read that ENFPs need to not so much recharge their batteries but learn to centre themselves by being alone.
If an ENFP has mastered this, then it probably feels like a need to have this introverted time and it would make them feel unsettled if they didn't get it.....much like an introvert.
That's just theory though.
Oh puhlease...we're talking Hannibal here...not Wile E Coyote or Elmer Fudd.
Do you even think Hannibal would bother chasing? Hannibal would wait...patiently ...and slit that bird's throat in its sleep. Silently and sup on it.
The runner may choose a sitcom as vengeance...Hannibal would just choose complete annihilation, cold and callous.
Wiley E. Coyote was an ENTP too. He couldn't kill one of his own, it might cause a rip in space time. Him and the Road Runner would have teamed up. Two ENTPs against one INTJ pfft.
We'll use Iron Man....typical ENTP versus INTJ battle.
ENTP Tony Stark beat his evil INTJ capitalistic weapons manufacturing buddy.... what was his name? I dunno, I often forget the defeated INTJs. 
The INTJ used the ENTPs ideas but when it went against ENTP vision the ENTP was willing to change the entire company because the vision is the most important thing. The INTJ had the power to mastermind taking the control of the entire company away from the ENTP, the ENTP didn't particularly care about the materialistic aspects but that the INTJ was following a capitalistic self-serving vision that harmed society. This angered Loki. The ENTP was able to focus a beam of energy to create (they will go without food and water and to a place where time does not exist)
Loki has to do it's work with none of the support the INTJ has because when challenging a system you will get no support. You will be told you are crazy and need rest. They get told to lay low for awhile.
So ENTP Tony Stark has to do all his work in secret and alone while the INTJ gloats (thinking he's won) surrounded by his capitalist follower minions and wealth. Then when he gets comfortable *poof* in comes Loki to destroy the INTJ and providing a lesson.
Power doesn't come from old ideas, it comes from new ones.
Sidebar: I further attest that the INTJ's estate should be held liable for any property and psychological damages having occurred during the battle since the poor little ENTP was only fighting in self-defense suffering permanent scars and soft tissue damage.
I wonder if countries can be typed? No one seems to have the "time" for real understanding any more.
I so agree with this. You can't get true understanding using a clock to guide you. So much of our understanding is bad understanding because we live in a "good enough" society due to clocks.
As for countries being typed, I never thought about it that way but I think some can be diagnosed with personality disorders. I think the U.S. has been acting as one suffering from a narcissistic personality disorder (seriously, look at the symptoms then it's foreign policy) and hopefully with Obama that will now change.
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| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/12/2008 10:43:16 AM |
If an ENFP has mastered this, then it probably feels like a need to have this introverted time and it would make them feel unsettled if they didn't get it.....much like an introvert.
That's just theory though.
Yah, I need some introverted time too, but too much makes me feel off-center. There are degrees of Introversion/Extraversion too. The strength of preference comes into play.
I find your views of INTJs funny...they are supposed to be our soulmates. | |
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Posted: 11/12/2008 1:34:54 PM |
I find your views of INTJs funny...they are supposed to be our soulmates.
Who best to poke fun than the ones that can appreciate you the most. It's the challenge we provide them and them us which I think makes it a good match. I joke but if I am working on a project, I want an INTJ on my team (provided they listen and respect my P - they are more likely to do this in a relationship than in the workplace I find). If I'm feeling frustrated by the details, I want an INTJ to take care of it because they "like" doing these things. They just have to realize that you aren't giving them the responsibility because you can't handle it or do it. You just feel they are the better person for the job considering their likes.
We can challenge INTJs but its not in a mean way. It can be very relaxing being in a relationship where someone takes care of your weak areas and you there's but for the most part you share many of the same values.
If I'm bugging an INTJ, it's to help them. I'm making them grow. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2008 6:24:21 PM | | ISFJ for me. I have taken it twice to make sure. Funny how some people don't believe that is my personality but I think that they obviously don't know the real me.. | |
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| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/16/2008 6:34:07 PM | | in response to your question OP, my understanding is the complementarity is good such as introvert matched with extrovert. however, you should share at least one of the other variables. w/o any commonality or shared perspective, communication would be difficult. i would take the real test versus soley relying upon pof. in some situations you are more on the borderline than the extreme of the characteristic in question. so that may have different bearing than two extremes. plus, if you are not aware of that, you may get different results if you take the test more than once. | |
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| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/16/2008 8:38:52 PM | I have taken this test two times. Both times I bordered on INTP/INFP.
Introverted (I) 68% Extraverted (E) 32%
Intuitive (N) 59% Sensing (S) 41%
Thinking (T) 50% Feeling (F) 50%
Perceiving (P) 68% Judging (J) 32%
Not sure that I agree with all of it but definitely an eye opener. I don't consider myself that introverted but I suppose when I need to make serious decisions I do become introverted. The strangest part is supposedly only 3 - 5 % of the population falls in this category. I hope my own kind isn't my perfect match. I'm not getting any younger Myers-Briggs test people.... | |
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| Myers-Briggs Personality type...if you know it?
Posted: 11/17/2008 6:30:21 AM | Hey I am an INTP Snuffleupagus.
Actually I took the test again and I came up ISFJ.
It seems that intuition, sensation, feeling, thinking, judging and perceiving are not strongly expressed.
I can go either way.
But I am a strong introvert.
I need my down time. | |
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Posted: 11/17/2008 6:38:46 AM | | I was a little surprised to be a Snuffalupagus, though I always liked him. But like me, he's an introvert who is trying to be more extroverted. Me and Snuffy...we're evooooolving. | |
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Posted: 11/17/2008 8:04:02 AM | Way back on page 10 of this forum, I provided the explanation of an ENFP, which I liked very much – obviously complimentary and true!
But this… THIS is much better!
“Your personality type is: Elmo. You are cute, and everyone loves you. You are a best friend that no one takes the chance of losing. You never hurt feelings and seldom have your own feelings hurt. Life is a breeze. You are witty and calm most of the time. Just keep clear of backstabbers, and you are worry free.”
Gee, all this time I thought that because of my fondness for those doughy creations with chocolate chips and walnuts that I was more Cookie Monster. Live and learn.
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Posted: 11/17/2008 9:04:46 AM | ok, I lied earlier (isn't that what they said INTJs will do to get their way??). I'm not Kermit (although I wish I were). I'm Bert!
Extremely serious and a little eccentric, people find you lovable - even if you don't love them!
You are usually feeling: Logical - you rarely let your emotions rule you
You are famous for: Being smart, a total neat freak, and maybe just a little evil
How you life your life: With passion, even if your odd passions (like bottle caps and pigeons) are baffling to others
yup yup. | |
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