| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 1:19:11 PM |
Just cuz we can fuçk without needing to cry about it doesn't mean we don't have standards.
Great quote and all, but who says women cry about sex? If it's bad, then I just don't repeat the process. I don't think crying is necessarily a good solution, or a common thing. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 1:55:20 PM |
Just cuz we can fuçk without needing to cry about it doesn't mean we don't have standards.
ROFL it's refreshing to see the truth instead of the majority blaming men for women's insecurities lol. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 2:03:35 PM |
he said in a nut shell because woman can get it anytime they want and men get it when it comes along like a lucky lotto ticket.. men have to take it when it comes…women have an abundance of chances. LOL!
I have to agree with this. An average looking woman could go to a bar / club and could find many men interested in having sex with her. An average looking man would have to lower his standards to consistently find women interested in having sex with him. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 2:15:03 PM | I have to agree with this. An average looking woman could go to a bar / club and could find many men interested in having sex with her. An average looking man would have to lower his standards to consistently find women interested in having sex with him.
It's pretty much the same for dating, not just sex. Party because western women these days think they are above men. But a lot may not be thinking that way in this context, they just think they are better than they really are.
Women seem to think they devalue them selves when they give out sex because they are thinking more lowly of the person they are having sex with than them selves, which is most men. If you thought some one was equal to you, you wouldn't feel degraded to have sex with them. If a woman had sex with Brad Pit, do you think she would feel degraded? | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 2:28:09 PM | Women seem to think they devalue them selves when they give out sex because they are thinking more lowly of the person they are having sex with than them selves, which is most men. If you thought some one was equal to you, you wouldn't feel degraded to have sex with them. If a woman had sex with a million air, do you think she would feel degraded?
That is actually a really interesting take on it. I'm impressed. Not that you're trying to impress me, but I am nonetheless. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 3:10:00 PM | | ^^^I concur. The only time a woman would be proud of having sex with a random guy, is when he has high status of some kind. I bet they'd even call their friends to tell them about it. The higher the status, the more friends they tell. Probably be congratualted as well. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 4:37:34 PM |
If a woman had sex with Brad Pit, do you think she would feel degraded? Sorry, but being used is being used is being used. It doesn't matter the guy that is the user.
There's a big difference between "giving sex out" and seeking out sex because the girl just happens to like that. When woman is "giving it out" it suggests that there was no benefit to her. Maybe she was hoping to be liked? Maybe she wanted attention? Who knows, but that is trying to make one's body parts a commodity and that's when a woman has devalued herself.
For women that enjoy picking up an occasional guy or having an FWB, that is suggesting a situation where she is getting what she wants out of it, which is just sex.
There is a huge push for women to have sex whether they really want to or not. It becomes a part of fitting in. Basically, it just ends up being a worthless, meaningless act for some just to get approval from someone else. How about letting a woman decide what's right for her? The continued pushing for it really is enough to make any woman decide to just give up sex permanently. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 5:29:28 PM | There's a big difference between "giving sex out" and seeking out sex because the girl just happens to like that. When woman is "giving it out" it suggests that there was no benefit to her. Maybe she was hoping to be liked? Maybe she wanted attention?
I doubt explainations for why she gives it up has any bearing on the end result.
For women that enjoy picking up an occasional guy or having an FWB, that is suggesting a situation where she is getting what she wants out of it, which is just sex.
Yes I would believe that to be the case. She is basically using men for sex.
There is a huge push for women to have sex whether they really want to or not. It becomes a part of fitting in. Basically, it just ends up being a worthless, meaningless act for some just to get approval from someone else. How about letting a woman decide what's right for her? The continued pushing for it really is enough to make any woman decide to just give up sex permanently.
I'm not familiar with this movement. Doesn't sound too kosher pushing women to have sex when they don't want to. Of course the old chestnut of gender reversal shows men rejecting sexual advances from women as being gay, or just way too interested in somebody else, so they are basically scratched for humiliating her by not "wanting" her. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 5:37:58 PM | Come pay me a visit. I'll introduce you to my buddy who I refused to call by his own name for 1 day. He was renamed "Dumb Dumb" for being a male whore.
I actually think anyone who does 1 night stands is gross. Male or female. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 5:41:40 PM |
For women that enjoy picking up an occasional guy or having an FWB, that is suggesting a situation where she is getting what she wants out of it, which is just sex.
If it's "just sex", why do women always try so hard to keep the price up by restricting the supply? "Just sex" makes it sound rather valueless. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 5:41:52 PM | I actually think anyone who does 1 night stands is gross. Male or female.
I actually think that anyone who looks down on those who have one night stands is a boring, ignorant, pompous ass. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 5:46:45 PM |
Of course the old chestnut of gender reversal shows men rejecting sexual advances from women as being gay, or just way too interested in somebody else, so they are basically scratched for humiliating her by not "wanting" her. Actually, having control over that is something I liked about my boyfriend. He just doesn't allow himself to be manipulated, which makes me place more trust in him. By that, I mean I don't have to worry about him giving in to any offer placed before him. Personally, I give the guys who can walk away from a sexual prospect more respect.
I wouldn't say the push is an outward 'movement.' It shows up in young people who tease or humiliating those who don't. It shows up in guys having requirements that they must have sex by a certain time period with a girl or they leave her. It shows up in it being "cool" to show as much skin as possible, but whether the girl is looking for it or not, she has just advertised for sex. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 5:50:16 PM | I am not defending calling a woman a slut at all; however, some clarity is needed.
Realistically, the majority if women on here could invite a guy to bed and have the company immediately. Guys can't. I guarantee you Brad Pitt has been shot down at least 10 times in his life. How many guys do you think have shot down Angelina Jolie? I mean, come on, be realistic.
Women sleep with who they want. Guys sleep with who will let them. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 5:50:57 PM |
If it's "just sex", why do women always try so hard to keep the price up by restricting the supply? "Just sex" makes it sound rather valueless. I guess I'm dividing them into two groups; those who want to have sexual encounters and those who don't. I don't know of any women who is seeking sexual encounters putting a restriction on the "supply." I think just more women would prefer a relationship (with sex in the relationship) or just skipping the entire deal. I tried both sides of the fence and decided it just wasn't for me. If I'm not in a relationship, I just prefer to go without and focus my energies on other things. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 8:33:19 PM | Because it takes a good amount of charm, fast wit, and skills to get a 1 nighter with a good looking woman when there is also that many guys trying to hit on her at a bar or nightclub.
Haven' t managed to do so myself, honestly. And i, personally, wouldn't go through the act given the chance.
But trying to charm, think fast, letting go of any mental roadblocks in the face of that many odds against you is actually fun.
Its about having the ability to create a golden opportunity in where there is none on a whim.
As i see it, if you can pull it off, what can you NOT do in your normal daily life? Because being charming, thinking fast, and daring are actually learned useful skills to have.
Basically, we congratulate because it was a game to start with and the person showed gameness.
Now those that go whaling just because they wanted to get off for cheap. Thats nasty. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 9:20:48 PM | Sorry, but being used is being used is being used. It doesn't matter the guy that is the user.... How about letting a woman decide what's right for her?
there is some serious bitterness in this woman. you automatically decide that if a woman is having a 1 night stand with a guy she is being used and the decision wasnt her own. wow. just wow.
A scholar is a student...
yea, thanks, i didnt obviously know that when i wrote it. do you refer to high school kids as students or scholars? and then what about a person going to university to achieve a doctorate? they may mean the same technically, but sometimes you have to open your eyes to see the actual value of words.  i apologize for making you think about something, perhaps you could do it before you reply though, next time. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/6/2008 10:48:29 PM | I don't get the big deal. I guess everyone just loves the men vs. the women fight. To each their own I guess.
The people who choose this lifestyle are not in my life, male or female. You can call them all the names you want but if you make the choices to be around them, then it is your choice.
I am not a big bible or religious person but this quote seems to fit this and many discussions.
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone"
If you don't like what they do, choose not to be around them and live your own life.
Like I said, to each their own. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 1:34:42 AM | | Fellaz, stop kidding yourselves. If you base your whole dating game on finding a woman who has been with two people then you are fooling yourself. All these so called "sluts" are the very same women you will end up with. As long as that behavior occured before you, what the hell do u care ? | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 2:19:26 AM |
If it's "just sex", why do women always try so hard to keep the price up by restricting the supply? "Just sex" makes it sound rather valueless.
Well, you're getting somewhere. It's dubbed as the **** cartel among us cynics of the sexual dynamic. In spite of the lip service to "equality" that so many preach, especially Western women, we are witnessing everything but that. If it wasn't true, getting laid really wouldn't be that big of a deal, and women wouldn't be so hung up on this stuff. Men like sex, but we're supposed to feel grateful when it comes our way; if a woman is half way decent looking, outgoing, and fun to be with, her chances or getting rejected are far lower than a man of equivalent status, and obtaining sex is easier. She can be picky or slutty when she wants. Many men cannot.
And this is one reason why some men simply give up on pleasing women and start learning player tactics. They found at that being honorably and men of integrity doesn't get them anywhere with women, and that all their efforts are either in vain or outright exploited. Since the "price" of sex is so high, why not keep bouncing from one woman to the next until they've found success? Why pay for the milk if you can get the cow for free? There's a good volume of double standards with women concerning sex, and many men are discovering this even if they can't articulate it: the average Jane isn't that bad to many men, but the average Joe is boring and not good enough for many women.
xeno was right about it. Women generally aren't terribly interested in men that are deemed as average Joes, and this includes average Janes. They "give" themselves more readily to men that have status, social networks, looks, security, and money while criticizing both slacker and worker bee men. Cry stereotype all you like, alpha males at the top of the heap have no shortage of willing women standing in line, even if they are married. There are certain women that would never do porn-style type of sex with men they consider lesser than them on the scale---even ones of their socioeconomic bracket. That would be "degrading" even though they are roughly still equal in most traits. But a man with minor celebrity status, it's another story.
For most men, they are still having to work for women's attention, although we are not supposed to be desperate or act aloof and cool in the process. It's a catch-22 situation, as usual. As much as men don't always say it, women wonder why men are resentful when it comes to "getting lucky," for a good bulk of women, it doesn't involve luck at all---as one poster rightly observed, women just have to show up and be in the mood. Your average Joe shows up and is in the mood, many women will just say, "So what; I can get that when I want. You're not that interesting."
And despite what some women are saying, they reward players and talk "sex shop" when they believe no man is looking or playing attention. And lots of women *like* players and they are full of shit when they complain that they don't like them; womanizers produce drama, something to talk about with female peers, excitement. Even emotional pain is a high that's better than nothing for attention-whoring women. If anyone reads this doesn't believe me, you're either naive or in denial.
And as much as I like UglyBetty, she has a wrong idea about men. Since women see men are normally active and taking charge of things, they also believe that men can get sex almost as easily as they can. Or when they instinctively realize they are still the gatekeepers of sex (with the exception of the alphas at the apex, which get to choose when and who they want), they play games with men and get men to jump hoops for them with the lure of sex, and can change their minds in mid-stream---"Hey buddy, you're a perv, thats NOT what I meant" in order to get what they want. Or give in to someone else when the bigger, better deal comes along and dump her last beau unceremoniously.
Of course, by implication, women being the gatekeepers of sex means they are still perceived as sexually more powerful, but can (and still) abuse that power. Funny how feminists claim women have little or no power in the sexual realm, but feed that status quo with complete adherence to it. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 3:00:59 AM |
Just cuz we can fuçk without needing to cry about it doesn't mean we don't have standards.
Oh really....lol
To the countless guys who cry, because they can't get a f*ck......
I guess a lot of the average guys who whine that they can't get dates.....therefore won't be getting laid...
So, the average girls take advantage of the average guys who aren't getting any.....they raise their standards and get the good looking studs..
While the average guy wallows in self pity | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 4:51:29 AM | Depends on people's personal opinion....
If a girl sleeps around - she's a bit of a slapper.....
If a bloke has been in more beds than Alan tichmarshes favourite hoe - He's the same in my book....
and regardless, male or female... Id have them in the Genito-urinary Clinic before you could say 'swab'. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 5:19:17 AM | there is some serious bitterness in this woman. you automatically decide that if a woman is having a 1 night stand with a guy she is being used and the decision wasnt her own. wow. just wow.
ummm....nooooo. See, that's why I suggested letting a woman decide what's right for her. Take for example a woman that wants a relationship and she meets up with a guy that wants just sex. Mature adults can talk and find out that they want different things and go their own way. Some guys though would rather lie to get what they want from the woman, and thus she is nothing more to them than an object to be used and discarded, rather than a person who may have her own wants and goals in life. Thus, she is degraded. (Yes, there are situations where the woman has degraded herself. One that would KNOWINGLY let herself be used due to a person's celebrity status has degraded herself, and that's not the guys' fault.)
The people I'm attempting to stand up for in my statements are those who have been manipulated into sex. If a guy wants only sex, then he should seek out the women that want only sex and leave those who are seeking relationships alone. It's called respecting another person's right to decide what's right for them. What is so hard about that concept?
A one night stand I would not say is being used. I don't know of any case where a woman just met a guy and then assumed upon the first meet that a relationship would be formed. Basically, this needs to be a mutually agreed upon thing. Some guys feel that women are never manipulated or used. Also, I'm not saying this doesn't happen to guys, but that doesn't make it ok either.
EDIT: Looking back someone was saying that a woman is only degraded if she feels the guy was beneath her. That's a complete crock. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 6:13:53 AM | That's partly your own fault. Men support each other and congratulate their buddies when one of them gets a one-nighter. Women don't stand-up for each other in this way. In fact, they are even more competitive than men and label other women who sleep around as sluts.
Another reason I can think of for this double standard is that it's far easier for a woman to get a one-night stand. For men it's sort of a challenge. A women doesn't have to do anything except give herself up to a guy. Maybe that's why men who get one-night stands are respected more than the women- because men have to work for them. | |
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