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"I want to have sex with you." = insulting. Sounds pretty complimenting in my opinion.

Im sorry but If someone has NEVER had any kind of a relationship with a woman before or if they have never had a serious relationship - there is something wrong with them.

And dont worry James your only 23 (If you go by chinese mental age grading your actually only 16)... Still have a lot of growing up to do apparently...
And your still in the shaggi*g sluts stage if we are to be totally generalistic....

Well, you're getting somewhere. It's dubbed as the **** cartel among us cynics of the sexual dynamic. In spite of the lip service to "equality" that so many preach, especially Western women, we are witnessing everything but that. If it wasn't true, getting laid really wouldn't be that big of a deal, and women wouldn't be so hung up on this stuff. Men like sex, but we're supposed to feel grateful when it comes our way; if a woman is half way decent looking, outgoing, and fun to be with, her chances or getting rejected are far lower than a man of equivalent status, and obtaining sex is easier. She can be picky or slutty when she wants. Many men cannot.

And this is one reason why some men simply give up on pleasing women and start learning player tactics. They found at that being honorably and men of integrity doesn't get them anywhere with women, and that all their efforts are either in vain or outright exploited. Since the "price" of sex is so high, why not keep bouncing from one woman to the next until they've found success? Why pay for the milk if you can get the cow for free? There's a good volume of double standards with women concerning sex, and many men are discovering this even if they can't articulate it: the average Jane isn't that bad to many men, but the average Joe is boring and not good enough for many women.

xeno was right about it. Women generally aren't terribly interested in men that are deemed as average Joes, and this includes average Janes. They "give" themselves more readily to men that have status, social networks, looks, security, and money while criticizing both slacker and worker bee men. Cry stereotype all you like, alpha males at the top of the heap have no shortage of willing women standing in line, even if they are married. There are certain women that would never do porn-style type of sex with men they consider lesser than them on the scale---even ones of their socioeconomic bracket. That would be "degrading" even though they are roughly still equal in most traits. But a man with minor celebrity status, it's another story.

For most men, they are still having to work for women's attention, although we are not supposed to be desperate or act aloof and cool in the process. It's a catch-22 situation, as usual. As much as men don't always say it, women wonder why men are resentful when it comes to "getting lucky," for a good bulk of women, it doesn't involve luck at all---as one poster rightly observed, women just have to show up and be in the mood. Your average Joe shows up and is in the mood, many women will just say, "So what; I can get that when I want. You're not that interesting."

And despite what some women are saying, they reward players and talk "sex shop" when they believe no man is looking or playing attention. And lots of women *like* players and they are full of shit when they complain that they don't like them; womanizers produce drama, something to talk about with female peers, excitement. Even emotional pain is a high that's better than nothing for attention-whoring women. If anyone reads this doesn't believe me, you're either naive or in denial.

And as much as I like UglyBetty, she has a wrong idea about men. Since women see men are normally active and taking charge of things, they also believe that men can get sex almost as easily as they can. Or when they instinctively realize they are still the gatekeepers of sex (with the exception of the alphas at the apex, which get to choose when and who they want), they play games with men and get men to jump hoops for them with the lure of sex, and can change their minds in mid-stream---"Hey buddy, you're a perv, thats NOT what I meant" in order to get what they want. Or give in to someone else when the bigger, better deal comes along and dump her last beau unceremoniously.

Of course, by implication, women being the gatekeepers of sex means they are still perceived as sexually more powerful, but can (and still) abuse that power. Funny how feminists claim women have little or no power in the sexual realm, but feed that status quo with complete adherence to it.

Im sorry but If someone has NEVER had any kind of a relationship with a woman before or if they have never had a serious relationship - there is something wrong with them.

Yep, just like when you call people skewed for sharing their opinion and knowledge.....

My posts were not directed towards you, they were replies to Sapphire... And as you cannot see his profile, you dont actually know what the conversation what really about...

So how about you stop assuming other people's comments are skewed and I wont class you an an infantile little boy with the intelligence of a nats arse.... eh?

Im sorry but If someone has NEVER had any kind of a relationship with a woman before or if they have never had a serious relationship - there is something wrong with them.

ut I do believe there are ways men can satisfy that need if they want to. If I say to a guy "pay for it", I'm not trying to be insulting. Someone in another thread (Ukobalt maybe?) posted something along the lines of not wanting to pay for sex because they know the woman's only doing it because he's paying. Well, you can't really get laid and start complaining about the details of it...the plus side is you don't have to call her back, you don't have to take her out, no one has to know. Who cares if she really likes you? Do you think a woman you just met in a club will know you? Dating women and even picking up a random chick in a bar costs money, so I know that can't be the complaint. Sex is sex right? Then just take it already. lol

because sex happens when I want it to - or it doesn't happen.

Who cares if she really likes you?

Do I expect it when I ask for it? Yes - if you don't want to give it to me, will I threaten to get it elsewhere?

Now, is this you? If not..... give it a rest x

You make yourself a victim James.... I'd just stop trying to make an intellectual comment on the matter if you have nothing constructive to add....
Its obviously out-stretching your intelligence to think of something worthwhile to say rather than calling people 'moron', 'skewed' or 'stupid'....

Why bother? Silly boy.

^^^ Is this really true?