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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 10:19:47 AM |
Because men "paying for it" is a basic admission that it's prostitution, but that's too politically incorrect for many to handle.
Many as in society? Or the men in question? I doubt these men have a problem with doing things that are politically incorrect - have you seen craigslist? That should remove all doubt.
You're basically entering my argument which I outlined; men who want sex when they want don't always get it. Women who do have to show up and be in the mood.
That quote was about teasing or using sex for my gain. I don't - however I never argued that it wasn't easy for women to get sex or that it wasn't harder for men, it's just that they both have to (and want to) do it differently than would be easier. Women won't do one night stands or casual sex usually, because it's not pleasurable for them to have sex that way. Men won't just pay for what they want or do things any other way to get what they want, they persist on trying to get women to do what they don't typically have any interest in - I think paying for sex will get you laid quicker than bothering 100 women for it hoping one will cave in. But whatever turns your screws.
Well I have lower inclinations for social approval (this is from personality tests I've done) than your "average" person, what women think of a man can make or break his social standing and even effect his sex life. Why? Because with women is a high priority. They usually don't sleep with a men that their social circle doesn't approve of always they are temporarily rebelling or seeking attention and drama, or will not talk about getting banged by a janitor that was "hot" but would reap scorn by their peers.
Men who want sex worry about what women think of them? Perhaps that's their problem - if they cared less they'd get laid more. I don't know what to say about that, it sort of cancels itself out. If they want sex from women that they want approval from, then they sort of have to play by their rules to get the sex, no?
Again, you re-affirm what I was saying. A decent looking and worldly woman has little problems getting action from another man, even on the same night, whereas most men have to deal with longer periods of finding someone else, unless they have a network of available and willing women. Many men don't have this at all.
You say "reaffirm" like I was arguing with you. So yes it is that way, now all we have to do is live with it/accept it/change what we don't like. It is what it is, but men are half of the reason it's that way. | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 2:56:53 PM |
gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
So, who is congratulating these guys and is it before or After the STD test results are in?
WOOOHOOO Good For You! NOT!
I would be completely turned off by a guy who fits this description! In fact I wouldn't be with a guy who was with a woman who fit that description. There isn't a piece of azz on the planet that I'm willing to give up my life for.
There are no guarantees, but I still tend to look before crossing that highway!!
A.S.is
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 3:36:44 PM | hmmm I thought I added this to my post:
""For all those men who say “Why buy a cow when you can get milk for free?”, here's an update for you: Nowadays, 80% of women are against marriage. WHY? Because women realize it's not worth buying an entire pig just to get a little sausage. "
Got that in email this morning, thought it fit. Oh the times they are a changin!
A.S.is
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Posted: 1/7/2008 4:21:15 PM | The people I'm attempting to stand up for in my statements are those who have been manipulated into sex. If a guy wants only sex, then he should seek out the women that want only sex and leave those who are seeking relationships alone. It's called respecting another person's right to decide what's right for them. What is so hard about that concept?
if a guy only wants sex, he isnt going to spend months trying to coax a women into his bed. hes going to goto the bar looking for a one night stand. and any women in a bar expecting anything other than a 1 night stand when she leaves the bar with a guy, is delusional. theres no manipulation involved there, its just simple common sense.
If people want to be sexually promiscuous, go ahead.... but I'll call them what I like.
and if people want to be celibate while negatively viewing those who enjoy sex, go ahead....but theres a word for them too, 'prudes'. dont get on my case for this one, iv been celibate for over a year, yet see no problem about people coming together to enjoy casual safe sex. but im sure thats my opinion because i have a penis, or something silly like that. 
You're going to have a tough time competing with toys tho.
and thats exactly why we dont band together and hold out. because we know women wouldnt care. oh, and the vast majority of us dont have the will power for that kind of thing. hence why women hold sex hostage in relationships to get what they want/their way, and it works like 90% of the time.
Dating women and even picking up a random chick in a bar costs money, so I know that can't be the complaint. Sex is sex right? Then just take it already. lol
theres a big difference. enthusiam. paying a random whore on the street, isnt the same as picking up a girl/lady/woman in the bar. atleast in the bar, shes genuinely interested. which means when it comes to the act of it all, shes going to be giving some back. the street whore will just lay there and let you poke her, the bar girl will scream at you to poke her harder. big difference.
edit: becoming very tempted to add James P. as a favourite, lol. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 5:06:32 PM | For woman, its more mental/emotional while with men, its physical (testosterone)... the evolution of birth giving and physical/mental differences that arise from it.
Since more women in general still look to have long-term relationships with caring and ability to give provide men (which is more mental trait) who will stick around if one is pregnant, the few who can dismiss this mental note obviously are going to stick out.
While with men, it is more or less the other way around. As well, there is a more hunter/gatherer mentality with men that lead to more acceptable 'sluttish' behavior since it is the women who are to actually filter out their mentally noted men. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 5:40:55 PM |
if a guy only wants sex, he isnt going to spend months trying to coax a women into his bed. hes going to goto the bar looking for a one night stand. and any women in a bar expecting anything other than a 1 night stand when she leaves the bar with a guy, is delusional. theres no manipulation involved there, its just simple common sense. I agree with that. I guess we need to get back to what the base issue is. There's a lot of guys complaining they don't get sex. Everyone acts like a woman has done something to them by withholding sex. Women don't turn down men for sex to make men miserable, they turn down men for sex because either they don't want to with that particular guy or they have their own personal reasons for holding off. When did that become such a big crime?
In a bar/one night stand situation, where does withholding sex become a manipulative game?
Yes, I can agree that it's possible that it's easier for women to get sex, but again, how did women suddenly become the ones to blame for your lack of sex? | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 5:52:02 PM |
but again, how did women suddenly become the ones to blame for your lack of sex? riiiiight abouuuuuut....
women hold sex hostage in relationships to get what they want/their way, and it works like 90% of the time.
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 5:56:01 PM | This whole thread reminded me of an incident that happened not far from home in Wisconsin. 3 guys were caught in an attempted grave robbery. They weren't very bright guys, because graves are not easy things to rob these days with the cement vaults around the casket. The guys wanted to have sex with the woman buried there. Here's how it was reported: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0906061grave1.html
Talk about really just being persistent on making a particular woman have sex with him. Sheeesh.
Anyway, they were let off because they were prosecuted for sexual assault. Duh!!! You can't sexually assault dirt which is the only thing they had touched so far, and even if they got to the corpse, you can't sexually assault a corpse. I don't know why no one thought to charge them with destruction of property. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 6:14:07 PM |
women hold sex hostage in relationships to get what they want/their way, and it works like 90% of the time That's in a relationship and I thought we were talking about one-night stands.
Anyway, in a relationship, why are the couple not discussing that? Why is he not bringing it up? Personally, I don't know of any woman who does that. In fact, most of my female friends complain that they don't get enough. My case isn't a good example, because I'm in a long distance relationship, which means travel dictates when that will happen. Anyone with half a brain knows that's not healthy for a relationship to be using sex are a reward/punishment system.
Could it be that something much larger could be wrong? The one relationship where a guy complained about the frequency of sex was when I was in college with about 16 credits, working 30 hours/week, doing all the cooking and cleaning, and 4 hours of sleep a night was a luxury...often it was only 2-3 hours. We lived together. He took 6 credits and nothing else, and I have no idea what the hell he did all day. Then he had the gall to try and wake me up. Basically, he was a moron, but I know to anyone he talked to I was a "frigid b*tch". I'm sure if there were any surveys that asked him if I withheld sex to get my way, I'm sure he would have answered yes.
What kind of woman are you guys picking that you find one that withholds sex in a relationship to get her way?
Have any of the guys on this forum actually been with a woman who did that? If so, what was it she wanted before having sex again?
Is there a lack of respect between the two of you? | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/7/2008 6:50:13 PM |
ubkobalt: "As a woman, it's a lot easier. All you have to do is say yes. Maybe you'll hear no sometimes, but it's a LOT less, no matter who you are."
That's complete B.S.. I know that most guys if they really wanted to could get laid just as easily.
OptimismVsRealism: "guys who sleep with everything are sluts too."
Agreed. I look down on men who do this. Why should I congradulate them on having sex wth x number of women? How exactly would this make them a better man then me?
MrVitamix: "the only time I've heard a woman called a slut, is by other women."
Sadly enough I will have to partially agree. I find that most often that if a woman is being called a slut is is usually by other woman they know or their "friends". And in most cases whan I've heard men calling women this they them selves are man whores or is in reference to a woman that has cheated on them or some one close to them. | |
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Posted: 1/8/2008 1:09:13 AM | At the end of the day, If people want to jump into bed with any old Tom,****or Harry, thats their look-out. Personally I cannot think of a bigger turn off.
Here's a piece of useless information.
when you sleep with someone, you are also sleeping with the people they have slept with in the last 5 years. There are bacteria's that can be passed from person to person that can live in them for up to 5 years....
Mmmm - nice. lol | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/8/2008 5:18:53 AM |
when you sleep with someone, you are also sleeping with the people they have slept with in the last 5 years. There are bacteria's that can be passed from person to person that can live in them for up to 5 years....
when you open the washroom door at any restaurant youre opening yourself up to the exact same risk.
do you enjoy living your life in fear? | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/9/2008 1:15:43 AM | "when you open the washroom door at any restaurant youre opening yourself up to the exact same risk"
^^^Really! What a infantile ramark to make. Bacteria's on 'washroom doors' live for a maximum of 48 hours..... And dont put you at risk of being infertile!!!
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Posted: 1/9/2008 8:34:15 AM | ^^^Really! What a infantile ramark to make. Bacteria's on 'washroom doors' live for a maximum of 48 hours.....
Fool.
And everyone knows that public washrooms are commonly used in 48 hour intervals .
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Posted: 1/9/2008 8:42:37 AM | ^^ very true which is why it is always stressed as to why people should wash their hands when using the toilet, but its hardly going to make you infertile is it?..... Derrr... lol
James darling, have you got a problem with me? .....
Try not to use insults James, It reflects your maturity (or lack of rather) x | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 8:52:44 AM |
I know that most guys if they really wanted to could get laid just as easily.
That might be true only if a man lowered his standards. Most women wouldn't have to lower their standards to find sex. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2008 8:55:03 AM | ^^^ completely agree with that...
for every man who looks like ken dodd and thinks he can 'find sex' whenever he wants it, there has got to be a girl who will lower her standards to enable him (and her) to have it.... | |
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| gals are call sluts and guys get congratulated
Posted: 1/9/2008 8:58:11 AM |
for every man who looks like ken dodd and thinks he can 'find sex' whenever he wants it, there has got to be a girl who will lower her standards to enable him (and her) to have it....
And that's where bona dea steps in. | |
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