| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/19/2008 5:21:53 PM | Virgins aren't a big deal, I myself am I virgin and I honestly don't give a crap.
All these men boasting about wanting women with experience - the more experience the better right? (So like - pamela anderson lives that way buckos...) But anyway - onto the whole theory of this forum..
If I'm a virgin - I'm worthless? Kinda like highschool?
Well forgive me for not throwing on pom poms and jumping the quarter back.....
I'll just be over here with my clit vibrators, 100% worry free from std's, birth control, and pregnancy.
See guys? I don't need a penis to c*um - ...twice.
It's all mathematics really - you don't need us, and we don't need you. | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/19/2008 8:45:18 PM | | i know a couple guys obsessed with virgins...one in particular comes to mind. he's 5 or 6 years younger than me, we had a brief history and i can take personal credit for a particular kink he's developed, he's kept in touch and still wants to play 5 years after we first met...but he'll never date me. the girls he does date are usually 8-10 years younger than him (his current gf just turned 18) and he's predominantly interested in virgins. he's got a crazy sex drive, far from vanilla in regard to his kinks, and for some reason can't let go of chatting, flirting, and trying to play with me (online, phone, in person)...but yet i'm not his type (being older and curvier than he prefers). go figure. i really think the virgin obsession is more about status than sex...who wants to have to struggle through months of lousy sex (or no sex) to *train* a bedmate? | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/19/2008 8:57:40 PM | | hence why all us old virgins i.e) me feel like a f ucking piece of s hit!!! exactly who wants to train me? i shouldve been banging s luts in highschool because its much better to be f ucking and s ucking 2 or 3 years after you give up cartoons than to be an old wothless motherfuc king virgin like me...sex is so easy anyone whos over 12 who is adeqaute can get sex so f uck us useless pieces of virgin s hit...virginity is death. | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/19/2008 9:04:36 PM | Oh, virgins are plenty desirable. I stayed a virgin up until 9 months ago and I was sought after plenty. I think it's a sacred thing. Certain religions ( for example, Christianity) display a virgin as something holy ( virgin Mary) and who hasn't been "soiled"
As a virgin, I knew way more about sex then I should've, and most people who have been having it way longer then I have so it has nothing to do with not being able to perform well in bed. It seems that no one wants a virgin, yet, no one wants someone who's had her hole dug out by every guy. You can never win. I give a handclap for all the virgins left in the world, you have your whole life to "learn" how to have sex. | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/19/2008 9:18:54 PM | | aww don't be so hard on yourself vinny...i've been with a few virgins myself. my point wasn't that virgins are worthless, but rather that they aren't the pinnacle of desirability either. there's a lot of work and patience to be put in with a virgin, and that's not a bad thing if there's more to their appeal than their virginity...i wouldn't be as inclined to invest that kind of effort unless there were strong feelings involved (no virgin flings thank you). but given that there aren't many male virgins beyond their mid-twenties, throw in the complication of a big age difference and frankly the prospects of a relationship serious enough for me to invest in becomes dramaticly less likely. | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/19/2008 10:07:54 PM | ^^^ wtf? the idea of bedding a virgin isn't darwinian.
the concept of promiscuity is actually more acurately darwinian. specificially because promiscuity guarantees the widest dispersion of genes and guarantees the broadest genetic diversity in the species and hence favours evolution. lol | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/20/2008 5:09:30 AM | Virgins are people too.
And we need virgins to protect us. You never know when some hairy or scaly monster will rise up after millenia of hibernation and wreak havoc and destruction from coast to coast. Then only a virgin sacrifice can save us. I heard just recently some monster knocked off the head of the statue of liberty!
Maybe we should round up all the virgins and protect them. You never know when you're going to need one. And I hear they are on the endangered species lists.
Virgins are valuable! | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/20/2008 7:28:52 AM | | I can tell why most men wouldnt like being a girls first it must be Soooooo boring you should feel pqivileged that she's willing to give herself to you | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/20/2008 10:44:17 AM | | thing is from what im reading you dont have your whole life to learn how to have sex you have until you are roughly 20 at the most....if youre not up to speed by then no one wants you because every "normal" person by then has experience and they dont want to go back to the start. | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/20/2008 1:06:06 PM | well if im correct we were all virgins at one time. if you love that person doesnt matter if there a virgin or not. we all start off pretty crap i recon, til we know the likes and dislikes of that person. now im 38 i know a lot more now than wen i was 16, know what a man like and most importantly me too so hey i think im gr8 now | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/20/2008 1:49:14 PM | | I think it should be shared with someone that you love. Anyone who treats virginity as a nuisance just doesn't understand that I suppose because they've never had that particular experience. Nor will that person ever get to either because it's probably already been taken. | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/21/2008 3:41:22 PM | | i regard virginity as a nuisance because as ive said in other threads society forces a person into a midlife crissis when they are 20 years old. it is a fact the older you get the harder it is to find anyone, when youre college age it seems like its open season on everyone but once you pass the mid 20s mark the coffin closes and everyone is either married or seriously attatched or they have 4 kids and no time for dating. there is NOT somone for everyone that saying is such horse s hit....there is not an eqaul ratio of men to women on earth that means someone has to go without and i live in a city where there is 5 guys for every girl and they would take any one of those 5 guys over me. virginity is a nuisance because life is short and im going to waste because in sex terms to be a virgin i am f ucking old here....really old i mean highschool guys get made fun of for being virgins because they are over the hill and im 10 years above them with roughly another 10 left before im popping viagra...the only thing that makes older men better is their experience and attentiveness but what if you are an older man with no experience? then youre just a clumsy guy with slight e.d problems....virginity is a problem because the window to having a fullfilling sex life is very narrow...the clock is ticking. | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/21/2008 5:39:24 PM | thing is from what im reading you dont have your whole life to learn how to have sex you have until you are roughly 20 at the most....if youre not up to speed by then no one wants you because every "normal" person by then has experience and they dont want to go back to the start.
From a social standpoint that may be, but in the church, it's taught differently. I mean, look at the times, it's 2008 now. But, back then, and still in some countries, virgins are very much so saught after. On top of that, in some places, if you aren't a virgin and non married, you get shunned, they call you soiled or something.
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/21/2008 6:07:47 PM | It's hard to describe how I feel when I turn on the TV and, behold, there are 12 years old kids having sex, and I am more than 10 years older than them and I am still a virgin. Not that having sex at 12 is acceptable; I wholly disapprove of that.
And then guys come and say they applaud virgins for waiting for that long? Bull$*&#! Well and good if it had been my choice, but it was not. Perhaps people think vinny is making a fuss out of nothing, but being in the same situation I can understand where he is coming from.
Women's virginity is not viewed the same as men's. A woman over twenty can easily claim that she is waiting for the right man, if you are a guy you're f&*#ed up, there has to be something wrong with you.
And when women come out and say openly that they have no time to 'train' virgins, then you know you are really f&*#ed up. It's easy to say that I should wait, that when the time is right it will happen. I know guys are trying to help when they say that, but all they accomplish is annoying me. For one reason or another sex constitutes a major part of humans' lives, and it's only normal that I would want to experience it (though in my case I would rather experience a relationship). Imagine wanting something for so long (ten years or more) that in the end hope simply fades away. You feel like a loser.
And don't tell me that sex is overrated. Where there is smoke there is fire. There has to be something that makes people go crazy about sex. I would like to find out for myself. | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/21/2008 6:32:00 PM | | so does that mean that woman shouldn't go after you men if you haven't been penetrated as I am pretty confident that almost all the males responding to this tread have not been penetrated in the ass by a**** because if you want to get right down to it, you males can also be considered virgins | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/21/2008 7:01:50 PM | vinny and bandit have it exactly right.
The guy virgin has "something wrong" with him, and then the older you get past that point, the more pathetic you become (and even less likely you'll find a woman)
On top of that, you're left feeling like you're missing out on an entire chunk of life that everyone else is experiencing. | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/22/2008 5:38:04 AM | | Virginity is really important more to girls than lads to girls its the first step into being a woman to men its just a phase we all see it differently i guess i see virginity as something pure im not a virgin but i wish id waited sex only complicates things | |
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| So what's the big deal about virgins?
Posted: 1/22/2008 12:32:03 PM | With my background I look at the whole virgin question from a completely different angle...I tried to save myself for marriage and managed to last until I was 21...then my best female friend who was a lesbian was watching a movie with me one afternoon and decided she wanted to try out something different (Who woulda thought that Die Hard woulda made her horny?!?!!! Yippie Ki Yay Motherfornicator! and Thank You Bruce Willis!) Anyway, she's snuggled up with her head in my lap and all the sudden I hear *ZIP* I look down and ask, "Do you have any idea what you're doing?" she sez "Nope, but I'm sure gonna figure it out!" After living with her & her girlfriend for a year & a half they started sharing me with other lesbians...Why? Because some gals were very curious how a couple of long-time lesbians would suddenly add a guy into the mix and they wondered what it was like therefore so I was loaned out to quite a few since they knew that I would be gentle yet give them a wonderful experience (Thank GOD lesbians are so open about relationships!)
So the moral of the story?? Learn to be proficient at sex and you will have no worries whatsoever when you run across a virgin. I feel it's an honor to be chosen to relieve their pressure 
I will say that there are a couple of things that do make the whole issue easier to deal with...First, go down on her until she orgasms...get a finger or two working in concert and let her enjoy it for a while, paying attention to the angles she likes...then when it comes time to enter...PUT HER ON TOP!! Use lube if needed. Help her find the angle that works for her and start her out slowly...then let her do whatever she likes, at whatever speed she enjoys...trust me, she'll find the angle that works for her...so you then MEMORIZE THOSE ANGLES & speeds and use them against her After she has her first copulation orgasm/s, STOP and snuggle, giving her a chance to rest a bit...she may or may not wish to take a break, clean up, etc...but the thing is, chances are high the pain will settle in sooner or later so make sure that you have plenty of Aloe Vera with Lidocaine on hand...so one must give her aftercare...let her know that sometimes pain is a normal process of pleasure...and that eventually it won't hurt at all afterwards it'll just feel good.  I hope these simple guidelines help a few of you out.  | |
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